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Michael Cohen likely to be charged

By Tim Aurora following x   2018 Apr 12, 6:57am 5,065 views   142 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.yahoo.com/news/preet-bharara-apos-high-apos-224947656.html

Former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara had grim news for President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, whose office was just raided by the FBI: Charges are likely coming.

Aperently, Trump threw him under the bus when he feigned innocence of the payment made to Stormy Daniels. Once established that there was no client , the attorney client privilege is dead

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103   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 9:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says

So basically, it's not just Hillary, but an entire Democratic Administration's collusion with Russia. I see your point.


I asked how much everyone else got paid to vote for in favor of the unranium 1 deal. No one buys only 1 vote out of 9. Crickets chirping. An answer we will never see apparently just more endless regurgitations of the right wing echo chamber doing their parrot like squak, they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker.
104   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 9:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
I asked how much everyone else got paid to vote for in favor of the unranium 1 deal. No one buys only 1 vote out of 9. Crickets chirping. An answer we will never see apparently just more endless regurgitations of the right wing echo chamber doing their parrot like squak, they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker.



That still doesn't mean the Obama Administration didn't collude to give Russia a bad deal.

Nor does it answer why a bunch of Russians and their American compatriots fell over themselves to suddenly donate huge sums to the Clinton Foundation/Initiative during the run up to the vote. The family foundation of Ian Teffler, the owner of Uranium One, gave $2.45M to the Clintons alone.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prosecutors-ask-fbi-agents-info-uranium-one-deal-n831436

Nor is it unthinkable that the Secretary of State, who was running neck and neck with the current President, exercised a great deal of "Pull" in the Administration, which she extended in order to collect cash. Keeping in mind the Clintons have a massive patronage network


Several of Uranium One’s owners were also donors to the Clinton Foundation, giving $145 million to the charitable foundation, and critics have alleged that Clinton greenlighted the sale to appease donors to her family’s charity.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/14/hillary-clinton-uranium-one-deal-russia-explainer-244895

And Bill received a $500,000 speaking fee from a Russian bank hawking Uranium One.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
Even the New York Times couldn't Fabreze this turd.

If you think all this money was exchanged out of Charity around the time the Deal was approved, well, Ain't that some Serendipity.
105   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 9:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
That still doesn't mean the Obama Administration didn't collude to give Russia a bad deal.


It doesn't mean that the Obama Administration didn't collude with men from mars either. There is an equal amount of proof.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
If you think all this money was exchanged out of Charity around the time the Deal was approved,


they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker. The other 8 got what ???????????????????? they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker.

Damn I have seen so much tap dancing since Fred Asaire died.
106   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 19, 6:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Now tell me, what crimes were confirmed by the Steele Dossier? Not Russians talking to Russians in Russia.


Ah, the old move the goalposts game again. I'd say Manafort and Page are in trouble, as detailed in the dossier.
109   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 19, 6:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Ah, the old move the goalposts game again. I'd say Manafort and Page are in trouble, as detailed in the dossier.


ME moving the goalposts? You said the dossier confirmed some stuff... I'm asking YOU what those things are. Care to supply answers?

By the way, today we heard that Mueller isn't targetting Trump (complete with "Old News" excuse after 18 months of media hyping he was gonna charge Trump any minute now)
That the OIG recommends the prosecution of McCabe
And Comey basically admitted McCabe lied on National TV

Not looking good for the Swamp.
110   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 19, 6:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Karen McDougal is now free to talk, and she may have the raid of Michael Cohen to thank.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/19/the-dominoes-are-falling-after-the-michael-cohen-raid/?utm_term=.0b822fedbb51


Yep, Trump is so great, women are falling over themselves to brag about sleeping with the President before he was President, for fun and profit.

This would be a great time to remind America of the Media's attitude about Clinton's extramartial affairs, including while he was in the Oval Office.

The great thing is that so many Lefties are so bigoted, they think some toothless dude is running around his Kentucky cabin going "Hey Maw! We can't support that there Trump no more, he's a dang fornicator!" and it's going to effect his support.
111   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 4:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The great thing is that so many Lefties are so bigoted, they think some toothless dude is running around his Kentucky cabin going "Hey Maw! We can't support that there Trump no more, he's a dang fornicator!" and it's going to effect his support.


Actually the great thing is so many Trump supporters think they know what lefties and liberals think...

But Trump needs to worry less about the toothless due in KY and more about the middle class women in suburban America.
112   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 4:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
By the way, today we heard that Mueller isn't targetting Trump (complete with "Old News" excuse after 18 months of media hyping he was gonna charge Trump any minute now)
That the OIG recommends the prosecution of McCabe
And Comey basically admitted McCabe lied on National TV


Anonymous sources = fake news.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Not looking good for the Swamp.


It's amazing that some people have yet to realize that Trump IS the swamp.
113   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 20, 5:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says

By the way, today we heard that Mueller isn't targetting Trump (complete with "Old News" excuse after 18 months of media hyping he was gonna charge Trump any minute now)


He never was the target, Comey said the same thing over a year ago. Trump is the only one hyping the story up. If he had just kept his mouth shut there would have been very little story.
114   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 20, 5:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Anonymous sources = fake news


Only if you don't like the story.
115   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 5:38am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/19/michael-cohen-drops-buzzfeed-fusion-lawsuit-537327

Embattled attorney Michael Cohen has dropped a pair of much-touted libel suits against BuzzFeed and the private investigation firm Fusion GPS over publication of the so-called dossier detailing alleged ties between President Donald Trump and Russia.
116   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 6:15am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says

I know believing in conspiracy theories is more fun than accepting that the truth

Was it the FBI or the CIA that started the term "conspiracy theory" to besmirch people that questioned their ridiculous lone gunman theory?

When someone pulls out "conspiracy theory" it often means they have no real argument and are just trying to cover up the truth.
117   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Wrong. There was a FISA Warrant, enabling wiretaps, by the Obama Administration DOJ on Carter Page and his associates


And the FISA Warrant was reaffirmed by the Trump administration. Does that mean Trump/Obama authorized it ?
118   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Wrong. Carter Page was affiliated with the Trump Campaign.


If you hire or befriend a a crook, be ready for the consequences . No matter where is a crook is employed makes no difference. Otherwise I will join a political party to avoid being surveillanced upon
119   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
They are being sued for defamation by Cohen and others.


Well Cohen just withdrew the case.
120   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
ROFLOL Yes but it was THE evidence. Like hillary was one of 14 people who voted on uranium 1, but damn it was THE vote. You can' t make this shit up.



LOL. Millons were given to the Clintons and Clinton Controlled Foundations by a host of Uranium One players. I'm sure that had nothing to do with any approval.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/14/hillary-clinton-uranium-one-deal-russia-explainer-244895


Did you read the article. It says

"As PolitiFact has laid out in great detail, there is no direct evidence of a quid pro quo among Clinton, the State Department, Rosatom and the Clinton Foundation donors with ties to Uranium "
121   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 10:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
It's amazing that some people have yet to realize that Trump IS the swamp.


Actually he is turd
122   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (33)   2018 Apr 20, 10:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There isn't a bankster cock in the universe that the Clintfucks haven't sucked.

IMPALE THEM!
123   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 10:15am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
It's amazing that some people have yet to realize that Trump IS the swamp.


You’re likely correct for many issues like enriching the already rich, war mongering, and assisting the elite class to remain elite.

However, there must be SOME reason Trump is the most attacked POTUS in the history of the USA. I think it might have something to do with his stances on trade and opposition to rights-eliminating Leftist belief, as well as his opposition to unfettered immigration (especially from horrible countries of horrible people with horrible cultures and religions).

So yah he’s a mixed bag. But better the half good and half bad he represents than the ALL bad that Hilldabitch would have surely been!
124   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 10:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Trump is the most attacked POTUS in the history of the USA.


Republicans have attacked Clintons for years so call me after a few years and we will compare notes

Also, he is the one who brings himself because : -

* Trump has a nasty habit of getting into fights for stupid reasons. Remember Hamilton, Meyrel Streep, Cuban, Rosie and many others.
* He also has a habit of lying to your face. Example Russia did not hack elections, 4 million illegal voters and cannot back those up.
* He has no respect for anybody or any institution, FBI, Judges, Congress and even Military
* He has no idea how to govern, Just look at the churn
* Highly egoistical. Does not get along with anyone who criticizes him.

And I can add many other shortcoming but a few will suffice.
125   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 20, 10:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Example Russia did not hack elections

What voting machine anywhere was hacked?
126   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
"As PolitiFact has laid out in great detail, there is no direct evidence of a quid pro quo among Clinton, the State Department, Rosatom and the Clinton Foundation donors with ties to Uranium "


I don't read PoliFraud. They stretch the truth to Mostly True Democrats, and Liar Republicans.

Do you think Russians and Russian-dealing Firms suddenly give millions to the Clinton Foundation, for a Clinton Speech, and other Clinton outlets just when a deal is on the table, out of the goodness of their hearts?

To quote somebody else, "Yes or No?"
127   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Anonymous sources = fake news.


And what potential criminal charges have been confirmed in the Dossier?

NONE!
128   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
He never was the target, Comey said the same thing over a year ago. Trump is the only one hyping the story up. If he had just kept his mouth shut there would have been very little story.


Not the Media, eh? Nobody has been saying on this very board that Trump is about to be indicted by Mueller any moment now? LOL

Difference is, my claims are verifiable. McCabe DID Lie several times to internal investigators. OIG confirms, Congress confirms based on raw data, and both want him indicted.

So far, nothing on Trump but rumor and unconfirmed paid oppo research 'reports'.
129   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 20, 12:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Difference is, my claims are verifiable. McCabe DID Lie several times to internal investigators.


We're going to see rubber hit the road now. Americans have been patient because they have been led to believe that Session is doing his due diligence and when the opportunity to indict or act comes he will. He now has recommendation for serious criminal investigations. If he comes out like the flaccid cold limp Dick he's been the last year and half, and says he sees no reason to act. That will be the end of watching and waiting.

Trump wont matter anymore. It will be patriots plotting the counter revolution against the Soros/Obama funded illegal coup against the United States of America to Usurp American voting sovereignty. Play time will be over. Trump wont be America's spokes person anymore. Liberals will have to deal America directly.
Shit! Philly worried about a Riot if Trump fired Mueller. They didn't plan on what they'll see and get if Sessions sits on his Dick and acts like a pug punk sanctimonious bitch again. With his bitch ass smirk on his face. Say What again, SAY WHAT AGAIN! Motherfucker!
130   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
And the FISA Warrant was reaffirmed by the Trump administration. Does that mean Trump/Obama authorized it ?


In the first few days in office, probably just out of caution that there was something to it.
131   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 12:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I notice how zero mention is made of the Inspector General recommending prosecution for McCabe. Doesn't fit your Trump Rage narrative, it seems.

And McCabe will sing, too. He took a de facto bribe from Blumenthal via a 'campaign contribution' to his wife. That links him to the Clintons.

I can't wait for that indictment to come down.
132   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
We're going to see rubber hit the road now. Americans have been patient because they have been led to believe that Session is doing his due diligence and when the opportunity to indict or act comes he will. He now has recommendation for serious criminal investigations. If he comes out like the flaccid cold limp Dick he's been the last year and half, and says he sees no reason to act. That will be the end of watching and waiting.


Agreed on the first, slight disagreement on the second - I think there's been a narrative pushed to say "Why hasn't Sessions done anything?" and the pushers of this narrative (not necessarily those who want the charges made quickly) wanted to pressure Sessions/Rosenstein into a premature indictment that would be more likely to fail and more easily contradicted.

If you asked me a year ago, I'd say the chances of this ultimately resulting in charges against Hillary to be 5%. Now I think it's 25%. There are more opportunities to make connections directly to her. Also, we know there are active investigations into Uranium One and other things. And detractors take note: If a case for quid pro quo can be made, it doesn't matter whether the vote was unanimous or not, or depended on her or not - showing quid pro quo for the vote is the crime, not the ultimate outcome of the vote or who else voted.

I think Strzok, Page, Ohr, etc. have already made a deal - demotion in lieu of prosecution, in return for state's witness on McCabe and others. That's why they've been quiet as church mouses.

McCabe may very well lead to the Clinton Camp. Also, we may have an ally in Brazille, who thinks she was sidelined and/or made a scapegoat (CNN Q's) and wants revenge. Remember she was involved in Dem HQ around the whole "Hacking" which was really a "Leaking" and her book slams Wasserman-Schultz and the Hillary Campaign.
133   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 1:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
And what potential criminal charges have been confirmed in the Dossier?

NONE!


The dossier didn't confirm anything. The dossier presented evidence of potential wrongdoing which law enforcement agencies went about trying to confirm.
134   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
I don't read PoliFraud. They stretch the truth to Mostly True Democrats, and Liar Republicans.

Do you think Russians and Russian-dealing Firms suddenly give millions to the Clinton Foundation, for a Clinton Speech, and other Clinton outlets just when a deal is on the table, out of the goodness of their hearts?

To quote somebody else, "Yes or No?"


Interesting. Do you feel the same way about the Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/18/news/ivanka-trump-trademarks/index.html
135   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 2:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Do you feel the same way about the Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?
M

Way to go
Off topic.
and just when your side was losing horribly!
Odd how that happens...
136   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Interesting. Do you feel the same way about the Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?


Do you think Ivanka colluded with the Chinese? If not, what relevance to the rest of thread?
137   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 20, 3:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Not the Media, eh? Nobody has been saying on this very board that Trump is about to be indicted by Mueller any moment now? LOL


patnet is THE MEDIA? god you learn something new every day.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

So far, nothing on Trump but rumor and unconfirmed paid oppo research 'reports'.



Repeat until it sticks, mueller is investigating the campaign.
138   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
patnet is THE MEDIA? god you learn something new every day.


Nice Strawman. When did I say Patnet Posters were the Media? Only an extremely tendentious reading could make that connection.

bob2356 says
Repeat until it sticks, mueller is investigating the campaign.



Thanks, I'll remember. I thought it was the Campaign, then Trump, then just Russian influence, and now it's the Campaign again.

#NotedForPosterity
139   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 20, 3:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
Repeat until it sticks, mueller is investigating the campaign.



Thanks, I'll remember. I thought it was the Campaign, then Trump, then just Russian influence, and now it's the Campaign again.


It was always campaign. That was the charter of the special council. Go read it. It was trump and tards that have been screaming the investigation was targeting trump.
140   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Here are a few from the first few hits via Google:

Newsweek
IS MUELLER CLOSING IN ON TRUMP?
http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-cohen-russia-trump-ukraine-833237

Salon
Robert Mueller is closing in on President Trump. Here’s proof
https://www.salon.com/2018/03/05/robert-mueller-is-closing-in-on-president-trump-heres-proof/

New York Times
Mueller Is Gaining Steam. Should Trump Worry?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/us/politics/trump-russia-inquiry-mueller.html

New Republic
The walls are closing in on Trump—and he’s starting to lose it.
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/142766/walls-closing-trumpand-hes-starting-lose-it

Telegraph UK
Donald Trump allies fear Robert Mueller is closing in on his tax returns
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/02/donald-trump-allies-fear-robert-mueller-closing-tax-returns/

Politco
Russia probe lawyers think Mueller could indict Trump
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969

Yeah, sure is my imagination that the Press has been peddling the "Mueller is Closing in on Trump" narrative. All of them are from 2018, most from the first page.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Mueller+closing+in+Trump
141   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
It was always campaign. That was the charter of the special council. Go read it. It was trump and tards that have been screaming the investigation was targeting trump.


Again, not my claim. My assertion is that the Media has been alternately representing it as investigating Russian Collusion, the Trump Campaign, and Trump himself.

Your beef is then with the Oligarch Legacy Media (OLM, as in the slithering reptile) not with me.
142   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 4:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/18/news/ivanka-trump-trademarks/index.html

I suppose that they are kowtowing.
It's so nice to have a president that's not the Chinese's bitch.

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