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Michael Cohen likely to be charged

By Tim Aurora following x   2018 Apr 12, 6:57am 12,930 views   142 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.yahoo.com/news/preet-bharara-apos-high-apos-224947656.html

Former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara had grim news for President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, whose office was just raided by the FBI: Charges are likely coming.

Aperently, Trump threw him under the bus when he feigned innocence of the payment made to Stormy Daniels. Once established that there was no client , the attorney client privilege is dead

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63   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 1:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says

That is not a threat. Democrats have held sway for far too long and are stripping this country of everything. Any illegal cna come in, can't deport them, gazillion genders, cannot have free speech,anything else racist/sexist enoiuygh


Republicans have been the majority party in both houses of congress for 7 years and control 3/4 of state governments. What do the democrats hold sway on exactly?
64   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Apr 17, 1:32pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Trump. I think he wil go down as the worst President ever.


All those darn America first deals, a raging economy, kept campaign promises, peace in NK after generations of threats, the lowest unemployment rate for minorities ever... yeah what a monster.
65   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Apr 17, 1:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
lostand confused says
This is a massive cover up and the very health of this country is at stake.


I think you are listening too much Hannity and Alex Jones


This is exhibit A of propagandized Pavlovian response programming. Respond to facts you don't like w "must be one of those crazy conspiracies"...

Tim obviously has no response.
66   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 1:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Alex Jones is to Populists what Rachel Maddow is to the AltLeft, but more reasonable.
67   Evan F.   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Alex Jones is the Rachel Maddow of the AltLeft, but more reasonable.

This made me splatter my tea everywhere. I haven't heard of any pieces from Maddow about the water turning the frogs gay or NASA running a child slave colony on mars. Jones is 100% entertainment/commentary. Not journalism. Maddow is much further in the middle of the spectrum between the two.
68   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Republicans have been the majority party in both houses of congress for 7 years and control 3/4 of state governments. What do the democrats hold sway on exactly?

The executive over last 8 years. That is where all this is coming from and at this point the blame squarely lies on trump for not plugging that and fixing it. Obama did a fine job picking people he wanted and who helped his agenda.

Sessions the imbecile. I am beginning to wonder if Comey was thrown under the bus. he is taking fire from both sides-Rosenstein signe doff on firing him and then used that to start the special counsel-Mcabe , Stoorkz alluded to it called it the insurance policy. Comey may well have been the scapegoat. They spied on trump , they don't want to go to jail for it and started it. They can't prove anything on collusion so who again Rosentein of couse signs off on going after Stormy Daniels and even the Access Hollywood tapes and oh yeah taxi medallions. The acting attorney general of the US going after taxi medallions in NY-yeah right. Everything leads back to Rosentein.

I don't know if Trump realizes what is going on or just is far too arrogant with a massive ego-but he ahs to right ship. Else when the dems get back control of say the house-he won't have that choice. This is a coup to cover up their crimes-they have nothing to lose.

The kind of churn he has in cabinet positions is not healthy. Even at my level, I am very careful of hiring an employee-it is not easy to fire someone with all the laws and regulations/documentation needed/lawsuits. I don't know what he was thinking?
Maybe just the euphoria and then putting his stupid kid of a son in law and probably that dimwit Ivanka. Oh well lets see if he come sto his senses and comes down a peg or two and realizes he is in danger against the deep state-they will stage a coup if they have to-who is going to do what tot hem? Chuck Schume rwarned of the same. he needs a new AG one that he can trust to fix this mess.
69   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Apr 17, 1:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
I haven't heard of any pieces from Maddow about the water turning the frogs gay


That's because Maddow is spinning a tale to lie to you. Ignore spin. Look at facts.

https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html
70   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 2:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Alex Jones is the Rachel Maddow of the AltLeft, but more reasonable.

This made me splatter my tea everywhere. I haven't heard of any pieces from Maddow about the water turning the frogs gay or NASA running a child slave colony on mars. Jones is 100% entertainment/commentary. Not journalism. Maddow is much further in the middle of the spectrum between the two.


Maddow makes sane pronouncements, like declaring the Nigerian Ambush a result of Trump's Travel Ban, or accusing Trump of wagging the dog on Syria after weeks of Left-wing pressure to bomb Assad.

He's the craziest loon on MSNBC, and that's saying something.
71   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 5:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
Sessions the imbecile. I am beginning to wonder if Comey was thrown under the bus. he is taking fire from both sides-Rosenstein signe doff on firing him and then used that to start the special counsel-Mcabe , Stoorkz alluded to it called it the insurance policy. Comey may well have been the scapegoat. They spied on trump , they don't want to go to jail for it and started it. They can't prove anything on collusion so who again Rosentein of couse signs off on going after Stormy Daniels and even the Access Hollywood tapes and oh yeah taxi medallions. The acting attorney general of the US going after taxi medallions in NY-yeah right. Everything leads back to Rosentein.

I don't know if Trump realizes what is going on or just is far too arrogant with a massive ego-but he ahs to right ship. Else when the dems get back control of say the house-he won't have that choice. This is a coup to cover up their crimes-they have nothing to lose.


Yeah Sessions hasn't been looking good. Maybe he's just there so Trump can overrule him in cases like the states rights to legal weed and thus look good, who knows. But I would surely appreciate someone with a bite who can go prosecute many in the former admin. Where are the handcuffs?! ;)
72   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 5:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
The kind of churn he has in cabinet positions is not healthy. Even at my level, I am very careful of hiring an employee-it is not easy to fire someone with all the laws and regulations/documentation needed/lawsuits. I don't know what he was thinking?


It might be time to face up to the fact trump is a shitty manager and always has been. He was considered a total joke by other developers in NY in the 80's. That would be the developers with successful projects that didn't go into bankruptcy twice a year. I worked on boards with some of those guys, they just laughed about trump.. Until he gave up trying to run things and just became a huckster shilling his name for bucks it was one disaster after another. When the vp of harrah's was asked about being partners with trump. he said "we are now the largest and most profitable casino operator in the world. All of trumps casino's are closed in bankruptcy., I think that says it all."
73   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 6:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
t trump is a shitty manager and always has been


So far he has been unable to hire good people. Most are there not because of him but because being a true patriot, they do not want him to ruin America, Mattis, Kelly and Rosenstein come to mind
74   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 9:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
Now Rosnestien who signed the FISA warrant to spy on trump-an opposition cmapiang


Not that Trump supporters are really interested in truth and facts, but nobody spied on Trump. There was a FISA warrant obtained against Carter Page.

And they got the warrant for good reason:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/03/carter-page-nunes-memo-216934
http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/
http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-congressional-testimony-transcript-steele-dossier-2017-11

I know believing in conspiracy theories is more fun than accepting that the truth is usually much more mundane--in this case, the FBI suspected Page of wrongdoing so they got a warrant to investigate--but Occam's razor applies here.
75   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 10:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Not that Trump supporters are really interested in truth and facts, but nobody spied on Trump. There was a FISA warrant obtained against Carter Page.


The FISA warrant allowed for the wiretapping of everybody associated with Page, therefore, the Trump campaign and quite possibly Trump.

The original FISA request was rejected, and then the FBI colluded with FusionGPS to create a fake document (the Dossier) to justify a second pass at getting the FISA warrant, which was received. Bruce (DOJ) and Nellie Ohr (FusionGPS) were key in this.

Unprecedented abuse of the Patriot Act, to spy on the opposition. And Obama, despite absolute protests to the contrary, was regularly briefed.

Don't worry, the OIG report comes out soon. The reason Congress isn't allowed to see it is because it's all going to be used in criminal charges and Sessions doesn't want his key evidence leaking. Can't trust Piece of Schiff not to warn those who will be charged and help craft a narrative in advance.

Some have already guessed at prosecution, which is why somebody had a GoFundMe for Legal Expenses before the charges are filed.
76   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 10:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says

Not that Trump supporters are really interested in truth and facts, but nobody spied on Trump.


Trump supporters don't know the difference between spying and surveillence.
77   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 10:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Trump supporters don't know the difference between spying and surveillence.



If the results are used as political fodder, what's the difference?
78   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 10:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
Trump supporters don't know the difference between spying and surveillence.



If the results are used as political fodder, what's the difference?


One is legal and admissible in court for a start.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The FISA warrant was rejected, and then the FBI colluded with FusionGPS to create a fake document (the Dossier) to take a second pass at getting the FISA warrant.

Unprecedented abuse of the Patriot Act, to spy on the opposition.


If no one is doing anything wrong then the surveillence would be vindicating and no one would have to tweet about it. The first rule of law is don't act guilty.
79   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 11:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
One is legal and admissible in court for a start.


And using as political fodder? Don't need to go to court for that shit.

bob2356 says
If no one is doing anything wrong then the surveillence would be vindicating and no one would have to tweet about it. The first rule of law is don't act guilty.



Sure, there's nothing wrong with the President getting Wiretaps on the Opposition Presidential Candidate's Team using a phony dossier as an excuse.

Only a CRAZED RIGHT WINGNUT! would complain about that.
80   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 11:21am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The FISA warrant allowed for the wiretapping of everybody associated with Page, therefore, the Trump campaign and quite possibly Trump.


False. The FISA authorized surveillance of Carter Page.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The original FISA request was rejected


Source?

TwoScoopsPlissken says
the FBI colluded with FusionGPS to create a fake document (the Dossier) to justify a second pass at getting the FISA warrant, which was received. Bruce (DOJ) and Nellie Ohr (FusionGPS) were key in this.


Again False. This is someone's spy novel fantasy here.


TwoScoopsPlissken says
Unprecedented abuse of the Patriot Act, to spy on the opposition. And Obama, despite absolute protests to the contrary, was regularly briefed.


False again. Obama was obviously briefed--he has to be. He denied tried to influence anything, which he didn't.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Don't worry, the OIG report comes out soon


Awesome. Will it be as big of a "blockbuster" as the Nunes report?? I'm on pins and needles.
81   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 11:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
ure, there's nothing wrong with the President getting Wiretaps on the Opposition Presidential Candidate's Team using a phony dossier as an excuse.


lol--just like there's nothing wrong a political party completely lying about what actually happened to try to score political points.

Let's see:

1. The President didn't get any wiretaps.
2. There were no warrants against any campaign
3. The dossier isn't phony. Even Carter Page himself confirmed many of the points in his Congressional testimony.
4. It wasn't used as an "excuse", but as some supporting evidence.

Pretty much none of the above statement is true.
82   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 11:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
1. The President didn't get any wiretaps.


Wrong. There was a FISA Warrant, enabling wiretaps, by the Obama Administration DOJ on Carter Page and his associates

LeonDurham says
2. There were no warrants against any campaign


Wrong. Carter Page was affiliated with the Trump Campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html

LeonDurham says
3. The dossier isn't phony. Even Carter Page himself confirmed many of the points in his Congressional testimony.


Wrong. The potentially criminal allegations Dossier is largely "unconfirmed" according to no less than the FBI. From the Hooker peeing to Michael Cohen's repeatedly debunked Prague trip (no matter how much WaPo and other "journalist-activists" try to find loopholes that would place him there. Also, Journalists trumpet if some minor, not-at-all criminal part of Dossier is confirmed in misleading headlines, but again none of the collusion allegations have been.
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/15/17233994/comey-interview-trump-pee-tape-russia


LeonDurham says
4. It wasn't used as an "excuse", but as some supporting evidence.


The FusionGPS Dossier was largely a fantastical fabrication, along with a few pieces FusionGPS stole using their access to the FBI Databases they had as a "Research" Contractor. Furthermore the FBI paid Fusion GPS.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/01/russia-steele-dossier-democrats-republicans-216921

They are being sued for defamation by Cohen and others.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/09/cohen-steele-dossier-gps-buzzfeed-332747

Here's another fact: Hillary Clinton's campaign paid for the Oppo Research Dossier, and Comey admits he knew but did not tell Trump (and approved the FISA warrant application based on that salacious Oppo Research Dossier)
http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/13/comey-admits-he-refused-to-tell-trump-hillary-clinton-funded-dossier/

Everything in your post is wrong.
83   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 12:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
If no one is doing anything wrong then the surveillence would be vindicating and no one would have to tweet about it. The first rule of law is don't act guilty.



Sure, there's nothing wrong with the President getting Wiretaps on the Opposition Presidential Candidate's Team using a phony dossier as an excuse.

Only a CRAZED RIGHT WINGNUT! would complain about that.


Funny, the judge hasn't reprimanded or held in contempt the people who put a phony dossier in front of him to get an bogus FISA warrant. Why do you suppose that is? Most judges are furious when prosecutors pull a stunt on them. Do you suppose he is somehow unaware of the last year of non stop controversy? Maybe he has been vacationing on mars or something? ROFLOL.
84   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 12:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says

Awesome. Will it be as big of a "blockbuster" as the Nunes report?? I'm on pins and needles.


Oh no not another BLOCKBUSTER report. The excitement is killing me. Say it ain't so joe. How many times can hillary/obama be put in jail? Oh wait, the number is still zero.
85   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 12:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
They are being sued for defamation by Cohen and others.


cohen sued the good humour man for defamation.
86   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 12:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says

Funny, the judge hasn't reprimanded or held in contempt the people who put a phony dossier in front of him to get an bogus FISA warrant. Why do you suppose that is?


Judge likely knew it was political, and worse, texts from Strzok to lover Lisa Page show he was on first name basis with judge.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/27/eric-swalwell-fisa-court-judge-likely-knew-politic/
https://saraacarter.com/explosive-text-messages-reveal-judge-in-flynn-case-was-friends-with-strzok/


bob2356 says
Most judges are furious when prosecutors pull a stunt on them.

I've made this point before, which is why Strzok is doomed one way or the other.
87   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 12:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Oh no not another BLOCKBUSTER report. The excitement is killing me. Say it ain't so joe. How many times can hillary/obama be put in jail? Oh wait, the number is still zero.


Zero, like the amount of evidence Trump colluded with Russia.
88   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 12:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Wrong. There was a FISA Warrant, enabling wiretaps, by the Obama Administration DOJ on Carter Page and his associates


That's false. Do you have a source saying the FISA warrant covers Page's associates?

Regardless, the FISA warrant was obtained when Page wasn't even a part of the campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/31/what-we-know-about-the-warrant-to-surveil-carter-page/?utm_term=.41c7970fed11

"In other words, the warrant application was submitted after Page had publicly broken with Trump, undercutting the idea that the campaign was being targeted."

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Wrong. Carter Page was affiliated with the Trump Campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.html


Not when the FISA warrant was obtained.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Wrong. The potentially criminal allegations Dossier is largely "unconfirmed" according to no less than the FBI. From the Hooker peeing to Michael Cohen's repeatedly debunked Prague trip (no matter how much WaPo and other "journalist-activists" try to find loopholes that would place him there. Also, Journalists trumpet if some minor, not-at-all criminal part of Dossier is confirmed in misleading headlines, but again none of the collusion allegations have been.


Nope, I'm correct. Some is unconfirmed, much is confirmed. And unconfirmed is a LONG, LONG was from "phony" or "dirty". As Trump supporters like to pretend.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The FusionGPS Dossier was largely a fantastical fabrication, along with a few pieces FusionGPS stole using their access to the FBI Databases they had as a "Research" Contractor. Furthermore the FBI paid Fusion GPS.


The (mostly confirmed) dossier was 1 of 40 pieces of evidence used to obtain the FISA warrant. Let me say that again. It was 1 of 40. An astounding 2.5% of the evidence used. Yet Trump supporters pretend it is the only thing used. All disinformation, all the time from Trump and his supporters. That's all they have.

Still waiting for your source stating that the first FISA application was rejected....
89   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 1:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Regardless, the FISA warrant was obtained when Page wasn't even a part of the campaign.


Misleading. The first request was Summer 2016. So weak it was one of the tiny handful of FISA requests to be rejected. How rare is it?
More than a thousand applications for electronic surveillance, all signed by the attorney general, are submitted each year, and the vast majority are approved. From 2009 to 2015, for example, more than 10,700 applications for electronic surveillance were submitted, and only one was denied in its entirety, according to annual reports sent to Congress. Another one was denied in part, and 17 were withdrawn by the government.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fisa-wiretaps/story?id=45913892

The second, approved request backed by the Fraudulent Dossier, was October 21st, 2016. But the application was made in September, while Page was employed by Trump
90   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 1:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
That's false. Do you have a source saying the FISA warrant covers Page's associates?


FISA allows surveillance of the individual and everyone they communicate with. By default.

This was deliberate, to craft an excuse to target a Trump Team member, in order to open the door to more information.

LeonDurham says
Nope, I'm correct. Some is unconfirmed, much is confirmed. And unconfirmed is a LONG, LONG was from "phony" or "dirty". As Trump supporters like to pretend.


What criminal information has been confirmed? Oh yeah, NONE. More Misleading. "Well they got Trump's birthday right" or some shit isn't what people mean by "Some things are confirmed".

LeonDurham says
The (mostly confirmed) dossier was 1 of 40 pieces of evidence used to obtain the FISA warrant. Let me say that again. It was 1 of 40. An astounding 2.5% of the evidence used. Yet Trump supporters pretend it is the only thing used. All disinformation, all the time from Trump and his supporters. That's all they have.


And yet the first request was one of the rare times a FISA Court rejected an application. The FISA Warrant was likely presented as research obtained by the FBI, rather than Opposition Research created by the Jeb and Hillary political opposition campaigns. That and Strzok appears to have been on a first name basis with the Judge.
91   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 1:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
FISA allows surveillance of the individual and everyone they communicate with. By default.


So, I was correct then. The FISA warrant was for Page. NOT for any campaign associates.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
What criminal information has been confirmed? Oh yeah, NONE


Lots actually.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-dossier-a7574536.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-dossier-details-2017-2

And reports are that we now have confirmation of Cohen's trip to Prague as well.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
And yet the first request was one of the rare times a FISA Court rejected an application.


You keep saying this, but I've yet to see any confirmation of it. Do you have a source that says the FISA court rejected an application?
92   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 1:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
So, I was correct then. The FISA warrant was for Page. NOT for any campaign associates.


Wrong! It was on Page, for everybody he spoke to. A backdoor way to spy on the campaign.

LeonDurham says
Lots actually.

Did you read the articles you posted? None of them detail confirmed criminal activities. NONE. In fact the CNN piece is about Russians meeting with other Russians.

LeonDurham says
And reports are that we now have confirmation of Cohen's trip to Prague as well.


Link? A confirmation? Not "He coulda maybe gone to Prague from Italy, but we have no proof, and nevermind the timeline is all wrong."
93   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 1:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
You keep saying this, but I've yet to see any confirmation of it. Do you have a source that says the FISA court rejected an application?


The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts

Wow, I didn't know it was Four (4). That means no matter how hard the elements within the FBI probably colluded with McCain and others to find something, anything, they could barely get a rubber stamp court FISA for Page.
94   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 1:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
The (mostly confirmed) dossier was 1 of 40 pieces of evidence used to obtain the FISA warrant. Let me say that again. It was 1 of 40. An astounding 2.5% of the evidence used. Yet Trump supporters pretend it is the only thing used. All disinformation, all the time from Trump and his supporters. That's all they have.


ROFLOL Yes but it was THE evidence. Like hillary was one of 14 people who voted on uranium 1, but damn it was THE vote. You can' t make this shit up.
95   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 1:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says


The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts

Wow, I didn't know it was Four (4). That means no matter how hard the elements within the FBI probably colluded with McCain and others to find somethi...


Anonymous sources = FAKE NEWS.

I think I heard that on here from somebody.
96   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 1:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
ROFLOL Yes but it was THE evidence. Like hillary was one of 14 people who voted on uranium 1, but damn it was THE vote. You can' t make this shit up.



LOL. Millons were given to the Clintons and Clinton Controlled Foundations by a host of Uranium One players. I'm sure that had nothing to do with any approval.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/14/hillary-clinton-uranium-one-deal-russia-explainer-244895
97   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 2:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Anonymous sources = FAKE NEWS.


And two separate sources confirmed the earlier request to Heat Street:
https://archive.is/xFqPB#selection-1067.0-1070.0

Funny thing is, Page was already investigated and not charged years before for his relationship with Russians, yet it was reopened in summer of 2016. And the FISA request named several other individuals, which I did not know until today. Why?

To find a backdoor for spying on Trump, that's why.

Who knew Manafort had ties to Ukraine? Why, the Podestas, who had subcontracted with Manafort to take Yankuvitch money in the past.
98   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 2:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
ROFLOL Yes but it was THE evidence. Like hillary was one of 14 people who voted on uranium 1, but damn it was THE vote. You can' t make this shit up.



LOL. Millons were given to the Clintons and Clinton Controlled Foundations by a host of Uranium One players. I'm sure that had nothing to do with any approval.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/14/hillary-clinton-uranium-one-deal-russia-explainer-244895


What did they give the other 8 people in the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States (secretaries of the treasury, state, defense, homeland security, commerce and energy; the attorney general and representatives from the United States Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy) to get their votes approving the uranium 1 deal? Sniper dodged this question for a year. Why is it the politoco didn't mention that 8 people other than hillary had to vote to approve the deal? Politico never even mentioned the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States at all. Just a small, tiny, little, itsy bitsy, minor oversight for such a well know stickler for journalistic integrity (ROFLOL) as politoco. Too funny. You really want to push this nonsense that all the heads of the executive branch voted for the deal because of donations to the clinton foundation? Seriously? Tin foil hat time.
99   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 2:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says

And two separate sources confirmed the earlier request to Heat Street:
https://archive.is/xFqPB#selection-1067.0-1070.0


Let me say it again.

ANONYMOUS SOURCES = FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING WITHOUT A NAMED SOURCE. Someone on here once told me that.
100   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 5:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says


ANONYMOUS SOURCES = FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING WITHOUT A NAMED SOURCE. Someone on here once told me that.


Great, we'll see.

Now tell me, what crimes were confirmed by the Steele Dossier? Not Russians talking to Russians in Russia.
101   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 5:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
What did they give the other 8 people in the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States (secretaries of the treasury, state, defense, homeland security, commerce and energy; the attorney general and representatives from the United States Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy) to get their votes approving the uranium 1 deal? Sniper dodged this question for a year. Why is it the politoco didn't mention that 8 people other than hillary had to vote to approve the deal? Politico never even mentioned the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States at all. Just a small, tiny, little, itsy bitsy, minor oversight for such a well know stickler for journalistic integrity (ROFLOL) as politoco. Too funny. You really want to push this nonsense that all the heads of the executive branch voted for the deal because of donations to the clinton foundation? Seriously? Tin f...


So basically, it's not just Hillary, but an entire Democratic Administration's collusion with Russia. I see your point.
102   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 9:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says

So basically, it's not just Hillary, but an entire Democratic Administration's collusion with Russia. I see your point.


I asked how much everyone else got paid to vote for in favor of the unranium 1 deal. No one buys only 1 vote out of 9. Crickets chirping. An answer we will never see apparently just more endless regurgitations of the right wing echo chamber doing their parrot like squak, they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker.
103   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 9:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
I asked how much everyone else got paid to vote for in favor of the unranium 1 deal. No one buys only 1 vote out of 9. Crickets chirping. An answer we will never see apparently just more endless regurgitations of the right wing echo chamber doing their parrot like squak, they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker.



That still doesn't mean the Obama Administration didn't collude to give Russia a bad deal.

Nor does it answer why a bunch of Russians and their American compatriots fell over themselves to suddenly donate huge sums to the Clinton Foundation/Initiative during the run up to the vote. The family foundation of Ian Teffler, the owner of Uranium One, gave $2.45M to the Clintons alone.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prosecutors-ask-fbi-agents-info-uranium-one-deal-n831436

Nor is it unthinkable that the Secretary of State, who was running neck and neck with the current President, exercised a great deal of "Pull" in the Administration, which she extended in order to collect cash. Keeping in mind the Clintons have a massive patronage network


Several of Uranium One’s owners were also donors to the Clinton Foundation, giving $145 million to the charitable foundation, and critics have alleged that Clinton greenlighted the sale to appease donors to her family’s charity.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/14/hillary-clinton-uranium-one-deal-russia-explainer-244895

And Bill received a $500,000 speaking fee from a Russian bank hawking Uranium One.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
Even the New York Times couldn't Fabreze this turd.

If you think all this money was exchanged out of Charity around the time the Deal was approved, well, Ain't that some Serendipity.
104   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 9:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
That still doesn't mean the Obama Administration didn't collude to give Russia a bad deal.


It doesn't mean that the Obama Administration didn't collude with men from mars either. There is an equal amount of proof.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
If you think all this money was exchanged out of Charity around the time the Deal was approved,


they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker. The other 8 got what ???????????????????? they bought off hillary, awk polly want a cracker they bought off hillary awk polly want a cracker.

Damn I have seen so much tap dancing since Fred Asaire died.
105   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 19, 6:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Now tell me, what crimes were confirmed by the Steele Dossier? Not Russians talking to Russians in Russia.


Ah, the old move the goalposts game again. I'd say Manafort and Page are in trouble, as detailed in the dossier.
108   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 19, 6:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Ah, the old move the goalposts game again. I'd say Manafort and Page are in trouble, as detailed in the dossier.


ME moving the goalposts? You said the dossier confirmed some stuff... I'm asking YOU what those things are. Care to supply answers?

By the way, today we heard that Mueller isn't targetting Trump (complete with "Old News" excuse after 18 months of media hyping he was gonna charge Trump any minute now)
That the OIG recommends the prosecution of McCabe
And Comey basically admitted McCabe lied on National TV

Not looking good for the Swamp.
109   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 19, 6:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Karen McDougal is now free to talk, and she may have the raid of Michael Cohen to thank.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/19/the-dominoes-are-falling-after-the-michael-cohen-raid/?utm_term=.0b822fedbb51


Yep, Trump is so great, women are falling over themselves to brag about sleeping with the President before he was President, for fun and profit.

This would be a great time to remind America of the Media's attitude about Clinton's extramartial affairs, including while he was in the Oval Office.

The great thing is that so many Lefties are so bigoted, they think some toothless dude is running around his Kentucky cabin going "Hey Maw! We can't support that there Trump no more, he's a dang fornicator!" and it's going to effect his support.
110   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 4:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The great thing is that so many Lefties are so bigoted, they think some toothless dude is running around his Kentucky cabin going "Hey Maw! We can't support that there Trump no more, he's a dang fornicator!" and it's going to effect his support.


Actually the great thing is so many Trump supporters think they know what lefties and liberals think...

But Trump needs to worry less about the toothless due in KY and more about the middle class women in suburban America.
111   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 4:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
By the way, today we heard that Mueller isn't targetting Trump (complete with "Old News" excuse after 18 months of media hyping he was gonna charge Trump any minute now)
That the OIG recommends the prosecution of McCabe
And Comey basically admitted McCabe lied on National TV


Anonymous sources = fake news.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Not looking good for the Swamp.


It's amazing that some people have yet to realize that Trump IS the swamp.
112   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 5:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says

By the way, today we heard that Mueller isn't targetting Trump (complete with "Old News" excuse after 18 months of media hyping he was gonna charge Trump any minute now)


He never was the target, Comey said the same thing over a year ago. Trump is the only one hyping the story up. If he had just kept his mouth shut there would have been very little story.
113   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 5:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Anonymous sources = fake news


Only if you don't like the story.
114   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 5:38am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/19/michael-cohen-drops-buzzfeed-fusion-lawsuit-537327

Embattled attorney Michael Cohen has dropped a pair of much-touted libel suits against BuzzFeed and the private investigation firm Fusion GPS over publication of the so-called dossier detailing alleged ties between President Donald Trump and Russia.
115   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2018 Apr 20, 6:15am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says

I know believing in conspiracy theories is more fun than accepting that the truth

Was it the FBI or the CIA that started the term "conspiracy theory" to besmirch people that questioned their ridiculous lone gunman theory?

When someone pulls out "conspiracy theory" it often means they have no real argument and are just trying to cover up the truth.
116   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Wrong. There was a FISA Warrant, enabling wiretaps, by the Obama Administration DOJ on Carter Page and his associates


And the FISA Warrant was reaffirmed by the Trump administration. Does that mean Trump/Obama authorized it ?
117   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Wrong. Carter Page was affiliated with the Trump Campaign.


If you hire or befriend a a crook, be ready for the consequences . No matter where is a crook is employed makes no difference. Otherwise I will join a political party to avoid being surveillanced upon
118   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
They are being sued for defamation by Cohen and others.


Well Cohen just withdrew the case.
119   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 9:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
ROFLOL Yes but it was THE evidence. Like hillary was one of 14 people who voted on uranium 1, but damn it was THE vote. You can' t make this shit up.



LOL. Millons were given to the Clintons and Clinton Controlled Foundations by a host of Uranium One players. I'm sure that had nothing to do with any approval.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/14/hillary-clinton-uranium-one-deal-russia-explainer-244895


Did you read the article. It says

"As PolitiFact has laid out in great detail, there is no direct evidence of a quid pro quo among Clinton, the State Department, Rosatom and the Clinton Foundation donors with ties to Uranium "
120   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 10:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
It's amazing that some people have yet to realize that Trump IS the swamp.


Actually he is turd
121   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (36)   2018 Apr 20, 10:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There isn't a bankster cock in the universe that the Clintfucks haven't sucked.

IMPALE THEM!
122   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 10:15am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
It's amazing that some people have yet to realize that Trump IS the swamp.


You’re likely correct for many issues like enriching the already rich, war mongering, and assisting the elite class to remain elite.

However, there must be SOME reason Trump is the most attacked POTUS in the history of the USA. I think it might have something to do with his stances on trade and opposition to rights-eliminating Leftist belief, as well as his opposition to unfettered immigration (especially from horrible countries of horrible people with horrible cultures and religions).

So yah he’s a mixed bag. But better the half good and half bad he represents than the ALL bad that Hilldabitch would have surely been!
123   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 10:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Trump is the most attacked POTUS in the history of the USA.


Republicans have attacked Clintons for years so call me after a few years and we will compare notes

Also, he is the one who brings himself because : -

* Trump has a nasty habit of getting into fights for stupid reasons. Remember Hamilton, Meyrel Streep, Cuban, Rosie and many others.
* He also has a habit of lying to your face. Example Russia did not hack elections, 4 million illegal voters and cannot back those up.
* He has no respect for anybody or any institution, FBI, Judges, Congress and even Military
* He has no idea how to govern, Just look at the churn
* Highly egoistical. Does not get along with anyone who criticizes him.

And I can add many other shortcoming but a few will suffice.
124   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 20, 10:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Example Russia did not hack elections

What voting machine anywhere was hacked?
125   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
"As PolitiFact has laid out in great detail, there is no direct evidence of a quid pro quo among Clinton, the State Department, Rosatom and the Clinton Foundation donors with ties to Uranium "


I don't read PoliFraud. They stretch the truth to Mostly True Democrats, and Liar Republicans.

Do you think Russians and Russian-dealing Firms suddenly give millions to the Clinton Foundation, for a Clinton Speech, and other Clinton outlets just when a deal is on the table, out of the goodness of their hearts?

To quote somebody else, "Yes or No?"
126   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Anonymous sources = fake news.


And what potential criminal charges have been confirmed in the Dossier?

NONE!
127   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
He never was the target, Comey said the same thing over a year ago. Trump is the only one hyping the story up. If he had just kept his mouth shut there would have been very little story.


Not the Media, eh? Nobody has been saying on this very board that Trump is about to be indicted by Mueller any moment now? LOL

Difference is, my claims are verifiable. McCabe DID Lie several times to internal investigators. OIG confirms, Congress confirms based on raw data, and both want him indicted.

So far, nothing on Trump but rumor and unconfirmed paid oppo research 'reports'.
128   Tenpoundbass   ignore (13)   2018 Apr 20, 12:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Difference is, my claims are verifiable. McCabe DID Lie several times to internal investigators.


We're going to see rubber hit the road now. Americans have been patient because they have been led to believe that Session is doing his due diligence and when the opportunity to indict or act comes he will. He now has recommendation for serious criminal investigations. If he comes out like the flaccid cold limp Dick he's been the last year and half, and says he sees no reason to act. That will be the end of watching and waiting.

Trump wont matter anymore. It will be patriots plotting the counter revolution against the Soros/Obama funded illegal coup against the United States of America to Usurp American voting sovereignty. Play time will be over. Trump wont be America's spokes person anymore. Liberals will have to deal America directly.
Shit! Philly worried about a Riot if Trump fired Mueller. They didn't plan on what they'll see and get if Sessions sits on his Dick and acts like a pug punk sanctimonious bitch again. With his bitch ass smirk on his face. Say What again, SAY WHAT AGAIN! Motherfucker!
129   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
And the FISA Warrant was reaffirmed by the Trump administration. Does that mean Trump/Obama authorized it ?


In the first few days in office, probably just out of caution that there was something to it.
130   TrumpingTits   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 20, 12:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I notice how zero mention is made of the Inspector General recommending prosecution for McCabe. Doesn't fit your Trump Rage narrative, it seems.

And McCabe will sing, too. He took a de facto bribe from Blumenthal via a 'campaign contribution' to his wife. That links him to the Clintons.

I can't wait for that indictment to come down.
131   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 12:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
We're going to see rubber hit the road now. Americans have been patient because they have been led to believe that Session is doing his due diligence and when the opportunity to indict or act comes he will. He now has recommendation for serious criminal investigations. If he comes out like the flaccid cold limp Dick he's been the last year and half, and says he sees no reason to act. That will be the end of watching and waiting.


Agreed on the first, slight disagreement on the second - I think there's been a narrative pushed to say "Why hasn't Sessions done anything?" and the pushers of this narrative (not necessarily those who want the charges made quickly) wanted to pressure Sessions/Rosenstein into a premature indictment that would be more likely to fail and more easily contradicted.

If you asked me a year ago, I'd say the chances of this ultimately resulting in charges against Hillary to be 5%. Now I think it's 25%. There are more opportunities to make connections directly to her. Also, we know there are active investigations into Uranium One and other things. And detractors take note: If a case for quid pro quo can be made, it doesn't matter whether the vote was unanimous or not, or depended on her or not - showing quid pro quo for the vote is the crime, not the ultimate outcome of the vote or who else voted.

I think Strzok, Page, Ohr, etc. have already made a deal - demotion in lieu of prosecution, in return for state's witness on McCabe and others. That's why they've been quiet as church mouses.

McCabe may very well lead to the Clinton Camp. Also, we may have an ally in Brazille, who thinks she was sidelined and/or made a scapegoat (CNN Q's) and wants revenge. Remember she was involved in Dem HQ around the whole "Hacking" which was really a "Leaking" and her book slams Wasserman-Schultz and the Hillary Campaign.
132   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 1:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
And what potential criminal charges have been confirmed in the Dossier?

NONE!


The dossier didn't confirm anything. The dossier presented evidence of potential wrongdoing which law enforcement agencies went about trying to confirm.
133   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
I don't read PoliFraud. They stretch the truth to Mostly True Democrats, and Liar Republicans.

Do you think Russians and Russian-dealing Firms suddenly give millions to the Clinton Foundation, for a Clinton Speech, and other Clinton outlets just when a deal is on the table, out of the goodness of their hearts?

To quote somebody else, "Yes or No?"


Interesting. Do you feel the same way about the Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/18/news/ivanka-trump-trademarks/index.html
134   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 20, 2:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Do you feel the same way about the Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?
M

Way to go
Off topic.
and just when your side was losing horribly!
Odd how that happens...
135   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Interesting. Do you feel the same way about the Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?


Do you think Ivanka colluded with the Chinese? If not, what relevance to the rest of thread?
136   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Not the Media, eh? Nobody has been saying on this very board that Trump is about to be indicted by Mueller any moment now? LOL


patnet is THE MEDIA? god you learn something new every day.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

So far, nothing on Trump but rumor and unconfirmed paid oppo research 'reports'.



Repeat until it sticks, mueller is investigating the campaign.
137   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
patnet is THE MEDIA? god you learn something new every day.


Nice Strawman. When did I say Patnet Posters were the Media? Only an extremely tendentious reading could make that connection.

bob2356 says
Repeat until it sticks, mueller is investigating the campaign.



Thanks, I'll remember. I thought it was the Campaign, then Trump, then just Russian influence, and now it's the Campaign again.

#NotedForPosterity
138   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
Repeat until it sticks, mueller is investigating the campaign.



Thanks, I'll remember. I thought it was the Campaign, then Trump, then just Russian influence, and now it's the Campaign again.


It was always campaign. That was the charter of the special council. Go read it. It was trump and tards that have been screaming the investigation was targeting trump.
139   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Here are a few from the first few hits via Google:

Newsweek
IS MUELLER CLOSING IN ON TRUMP?
http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-cohen-russia-trump-ukraine-833237

Salon
Robert Mueller is closing in on President Trump. Here’s proof
https://www.salon.com/2018/03/05/robert-mueller-is-closing-in-on-president-trump-heres-proof/

New York Times
Mueller Is Gaining Steam. Should Trump Worry?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/24/us/politics/trump-russia-inquiry-mueller.html

New Republic
The walls are closing in on Trump—and he’s starting to lose it.
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/142766/walls-closing-trumpand-hes-starting-lose-it

Telegraph UK
Donald Trump allies fear Robert Mueller is closing in on his tax returns
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/02/donald-trump-allies-fear-robert-mueller-closing-tax-returns/

Politco
Russia probe lawyers think Mueller could indict Trump
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969

Yeah, sure is my imagination that the Press has been peddling the "Mueller is Closing in on Trump" narrative. All of them are from 2018, most from the first page.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Mueller+closing+in+Trump
140   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 20, 3:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
It was always campaign. That was the charter of the special council. Go read it. It was trump and tards that have been screaming the investigation was targeting trump.


Again, not my claim. My assertion is that the Media has been alternately representing it as investigating Russian Collusion, the Trump Campaign, and Trump himself.

Your beef is then with the Oligarch Legacy Media (OLM, as in the slithering reptile) not with me.
141   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2018 Apr 20, 4:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Chinese suddenly deciding to approve trademarks for Ivanka?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/18/news/ivanka-trump-trademarks/index.html

I suppose that they are kowtowing.
It's so nice to have a president that's not the Chinese's bitch.

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