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Michael Cohen likely to be charged

By Tim Aurora following x   2018 Apr 12, 6:57am 4,437 views   142 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.yahoo.com/news/preet-bharara-apos-high-apos-224947656.html

Former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara had grim news for President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, whose office was just raided by the FBI: Charges are likely coming.

Aperently, Trump threw him under the bus when he feigned innocence of the payment made to Stormy Daniels. Once established that there was no client , the attorney client privilege is dead

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41   HEYYOU   ignore (16)   2018 Apr 15, 4:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Trump is innocent until proven guilty.
A jury will decide.
This is too complex for Ds & Rs.
Assholes have no idea who knows what.
Your opinions are based on what?
Intentional stupidity is a virtue for many.
Now they want me to believe they know as much as Mueller & I.
Laughing at you, Loudly!
42   marcus   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 6:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
That's why it'll wait until Mueller's staff are completely discredited.


I still don't get it. Why is an investigation discredited if they don't find evidence of what they were looking for ? Mueller isn't the one who decided there was enough reason to do the investigation. He probably believed there was sufficient reason for it. But that doesn't mean he won't be partially happy (or that the investigation wasn't a success) if they fail to deliver criminal charges against Trump.
43   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 16, 7:03am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

You know everyone is laughing when all you have left in the "witch hunt" is who paid the hooker.
44   Onvacation   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:06am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says
who paid the hooker.

Rin did! But it was in Canada so it's ok.
45   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 11:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
That is unbelievably funny coming from someone who posts debunked claim after debunked claim all the time.


No debunked claims here. The debunked claims are the Schlengen Area, the "was in NJ" claim, etc.

As it was put eloquently above, when the investigation is at the "who paid a hooker" point from "Russian Collusion", it's pretty much over.

marcus says
I still don't get it. Why is an investigation discredited if they don't find evidence of what they were looking for ?


I said staff, not investigation.marcus says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
That's why it'll wait until Mueller's staff are completely discredited.


It's time to move on and get back to business. High Time for Mueller to make a report to the DOJ and Congress, it's been a year.
46   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 1:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HEYYOU says
Trump is innocent until proven guilty.
A jury will decide.


I wish you would have said that for Hillary who has not been proven guilty after many exhaustive investigations.
47   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 4:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says
You know everyone is laughing when all you have left in the "witch hunt" is who paid the hooker.


or who got a blow job in the oval office.
48   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 4:16pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

At this point, the Mueller witch hunt is starting to look like that treasure hunter show the “Curse of xx Island” or whatever it’s called. The one where they plow millions into digging and digging and find nothing but some trash.
49   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Apr 16, 4:46pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
or who got a blow job in the oval office.


At least Bill was actually in the Oval office during the episode in question.
50   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 5:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Nice, judge who officiated Soros wedding rules aginst trump/Cohen. At this point I seriously question Trump's competency. You chose this AG and he chose Rosentein-fix it or go down in flames.
Considering the firings so far, I think he needs to better think clearly before filling cabinet level positions.

You have to give credit to Obama on his selections-Trump falls short and now is facing the consequences. This is an abomination-but hey you are President and your mess.

Enough tweets -do something-isn't that what he complained-talkers and no doers.
51   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
I wish you would have said that for Hillary who has not been proven guilty after many exhaustive investigations.


LOL. You mean, was subject to two investigations by one guy who leaked to the press like a sieve, lied about knowing the Clintons from Chappaqua, and whose wife took 6 figures from Terry McAuliffe.

The exoneration letter was written by McCabe for Comey before they even interviewed her, of which there is no record.
52   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
At this point, the Mueller witch hunt is starting to look like that treasure hunter show the “Curse of xx Island” or whatever it’s called. The one where they plow millions into digging and digging and find nothing but some trash.


Oak Island. I was obsessed with that as a kid.
53   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 7:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The exoneration letter was written by McCabe for Comey before they even interviewed her, of which there is no record

Yeah but that we have been hearing for two years. She is still free and if they are claiming OBma is running the justice dept and FBI from the background-well what does it say about Trump. I am tired of the bravado, tweets-time for action. They have drawn blood-fight back.
54   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 2:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
LOL. You mean, was subject to two investigations by one guy who leaked to the press like a sieve, lied about knowing the Clintons from Chappaqua, and whose wife took 6 figures from Terry McAuliffe.

The exoneration letter was written by McCabe for Comey before they even interviewed her, of which there is no record.

You still think this is a masterplan. It looks like Trump's goose is cooked. He should have gone to war witht hem, the swamp is fighting back-I fear we have lost. I am registering republican-have always been an independent and am going to fight the demoncrats with everything I have.

This country is going to a very dangerous state-we are doomed if this travesty of justice prevails. yet the RINO demons like paul Ryan etc prevail.
55   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 2:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
LOL. You mean, was subject to two investigations by one guy who leaked to the press like a sieve, lied about knowing the Clintons from Chappaqua, and whose wife took 6 figures from Terry McAuliffe.

The exoneration letter was written by McCabe for Comey before they even interviewed her, of which there is no record.

You still think this is a masterplan. It looks like Trump's goose is cooked. He should have gone to war witht hem, the swamp is fighting back-I fear we have lost. I am registering republican-have always been an independent and am going to fight the demoncrats with everything I have.

This country is going to a very dangerous state-we are doomed if this travesty of justice prevails. yet the RINO demons like paul Ryan etc prevail.
56   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 8:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
. I am registering republican-have always been an independent and am going to fight the demoncrats with everything I have.


You will end up lost and confused
57   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 8:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says

You will end up lost and confused

LOL -but been in the middle too long. Democrats are a danger to this nation and its very fabric with their SJW and using the FBI to spy on opposition. Trump may be a bit incompetent dealing with them-but he is going in the right direction. he needs help from us folks against the treasonous dems and the deep state attempting a coup.
58   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 9:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
I am registering republican-have always been an independent and am going to fight the demoncrats with everything I have.


That is lost and confused. I thought the problem was the deep state (like all the trump appointees investigating him), or the never trumpers, or the neocon republicans, or the gloabalist republicans, or the grassy knoll or something. Last time I checked democrats were the minority party.
59   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 11:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
LOL -but been in the middle too long. Democrats are a danger to this nation and its very fabric with their SJW and using the FBI to spy on opposition. Trump may be a bit incompetent dealing with them-but he is going in the right direction. he needs help from us folks against the treasonous dems and the deep state attempting a coup.


I was an independent too but seeing that Trump is joke decided to register as a Democrat and I am fighting against Trump. I think he wil go down as the worst President ever.
60   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 12:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
That is lost and confused. I thought the problem was the deep state (like all the trump appointees investigating him), or the never trumpers, or the neocon republicans, or the gloabalist republicans, or the grassy knoll or something. Last time I checked democrats were the minority party.

I ahve said before I find Trump incompetent in his appointees. Rosentein signed the FISA memo, then he signed Comey's firing letter and then used that to start a special counsel on Trump who found nothing and are now going after his contacts with porn stars through a by channel.

I have said Obama is much better in who he picked as cabinet secretaries. That obama spied on trump and FBI is not in question-the one doing the investigation and the one overseeing it-is the one who signed the FISA warrant. This is a massive cover up and the very health of this country is at stake.

If anything I would say trump is far too arrogant and overconfident to allow this kind of thing to happen. Things have to change or he is going down in flames and this country will erupt.
61   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
If anything I would say trump is far too arrogant and overconfident to allow this kind of thing to happen. Things have to change or he is going down in flames and this country will erupt.


I hear a lot of right winger threaten us with that. Everybody including Trump has to follow the law and with Republican controlling the Government and all the top post, I am not sure what is their beef. That said, I am not scared. If it does errupt so be it. I cannot live with Trump anyways and he is gutting the country.
62   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
I hear a lot of right winger threaten us with that. Everybody including Trump has to follow the law and with Republican controlling the Government and all the top post, I am not sure what is their beef. That said, I am not scared. If it does errupt so be it. I cannot live with Trump anyways and he is gutting the country.


That is not a threat. Democrats have held sway for far too long and are stripping this country of everything. Any illegal cna come in, can't deport them, gazillion genders, cannot have free speech,anything else racist/sexist enoiuygh

Now Rosnestien who signed the FISA warrant to spy on trump-an opposition cmapiang, signed the letter to fire Comey decides he wants an indepndent counsel and is also trolling NY to find details on Stormy. You cna't make stuff up.

You don't like Trump-work the polls and get a new one elected. The deep state and dems spying on opposition campaing and trying to topple a legitemly elected government-this is far more dangerous and has happened in mnay countries which subsequently became autocratic. recently happened in Turkey-luckily their guy and people fought back. Happens in pakistan a lot and south american nation. That is what he 2nd amendment is for-democrats and that shameful Obama choose to put their party first-weaponizing law enforcement,

Trump is acting like an imbecile in this matter-but this is not about Trump-but a coup and democracy itself.
63   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
I think you are listening too much Hannity and Alex Jones

I am sure that to people whose countries were taken over by military and deep state type orgs were told this. I am surprised at Trump's stupidity in this.
64   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 1:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says

That is not a threat. Democrats have held sway for far too long and are stripping this country of everything. Any illegal cna come in, can't deport them, gazillion genders, cannot have free speech,anything else racist/sexist enoiuygh


Republicans have been the majority party in both houses of congress for 7 years and control 3/4 of state governments. What do the democrats hold sway on exactly?
65   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 17, 1:32pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
Trump. I think he wil go down as the worst President ever.


All those darn America first deals, a raging economy, kept campaign promises, peace in NK after generations of threats, the lowest unemployment rate for minorities ever... yeah what a monster.
66   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 17, 1:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tim Aurora says
lostand confused says
This is a massive cover up and the very health of this country is at stake.


I think you are listening too much Hannity and Alex Jones


This is exhibit A of propagandized Pavlovian response programming. Respond to facts you don't like w "must be one of those crazy conspiracies"...

Tim obviously has no response.
67   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 17, 1:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Alex Jones is to Populists what Rachel Maddow is to the AltLeft, but more reasonable.
68   Evan F.   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Alex Jones is the Rachel Maddow of the AltLeft, but more reasonable.

This made me splatter my tea everywhere. I haven't heard of any pieces from Maddow about the water turning the frogs gay or NASA running a child slave colony on mars. Jones is 100% entertainment/commentary. Not journalism. Maddow is much further in the middle of the spectrum between the two.
69   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Republicans have been the majority party in both houses of congress for 7 years and control 3/4 of state governments. What do the democrats hold sway on exactly?

The executive over last 8 years. That is where all this is coming from and at this point the blame squarely lies on trump for not plugging that and fixing it. Obama did a fine job picking people he wanted and who helped his agenda.

Sessions the imbecile. I am beginning to wonder if Comey was thrown under the bus. he is taking fire from both sides-Rosenstein signe doff on firing him and then used that to start the special counsel-Mcabe , Stoorkz alluded to it called it the insurance policy. Comey may well have been the scapegoat. They spied on trump , they don't want to go to jail for it and started it. They can't prove anything on collusion so who again Rosentein of couse signs off on going after Stormy Daniels and even the Access Hollywood tapes and oh yeah taxi medallions. The acting attorney general of the US going after taxi medallions in NY-yeah right. Everything leads back to Rosentein.

I don't know if Trump realizes what is going on or just is far too arrogant with a massive ego-but he ahs to right ship. Else when the dems get back control of say the house-he won't have that choice. This is a coup to cover up their crimes-they have nothing to lose.

The kind of churn he has in cabinet positions is not healthy. Even at my level, I am very careful of hiring an employee-it is not easy to fire someone with all the laws and regulations/documentation needed/lawsuits. I don't know what he was thinking?
Maybe just the euphoria and then putting his stupid kid of a son in law and probably that dimwit Ivanka. Oh well lets see if he come sto his senses and comes down a peg or two and realizes he is in danger against the deep state-they will stage a coup if they have to-who is going to do what tot hem? Chuck Schume rwarned of the same. he needs a new AG one that he can trust to fix this mess.
70   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 17, 1:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Evan F. says
I haven't heard of any pieces from Maddow about the water turning the frogs gay


That's because Maddow is spinning a tale to lie to you. Ignore spin. Look at facts.

https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html
71   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 17, 2:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Evan F. says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Alex Jones is the Rachel Maddow of the AltLeft, but more reasonable.

This made me splatter my tea everywhere. I haven't heard of any pieces from Maddow about the water turning the frogs gay or NASA running a child slave colony on mars. Jones is 100% entertainment/commentary. Not journalism. Maddow is much further in the middle of the spectrum between the two.


Maddow makes sane pronouncements, like declaring the Nigerian Ambush a result of Trump's Travel Ban, or accusing Trump of wagging the dog on Syria after weeks of Left-wing pressure to bomb Assad.

He's the craziest loon on MSNBC, and that's saying something.
72   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 17, 5:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
Sessions the imbecile. I am beginning to wonder if Comey was thrown under the bus. he is taking fire from both sides-Rosenstein signe doff on firing him and then used that to start the special counsel-Mcabe , Stoorkz alluded to it called it the insurance policy. Comey may well have been the scapegoat. They spied on trump , they don't want to go to jail for it and started it. They can't prove anything on collusion so who again Rosentein of couse signs off on going after Stormy Daniels and even the Access Hollywood tapes and oh yeah taxi medallions. The acting attorney general of the US going after taxi medallions in NY-yeah right. Everything leads back to Rosentein.

I don't know if Trump realizes what is going on or just is far too arrogant with a massive ego-but he ahs to right ship. Else when the dems get back control of say the house-he won't have that choice. This is a coup to cover up their crimes-they have nothing to lose.


Yeah Sessions hasn't been looking good. Maybe he's just there so Trump can overrule him in cases like the states rights to legal weed and thus look good, who knows. But I would surely appreciate someone with a bite who can go prosecute many in the former admin. Where are the handcuffs?! ;)
73   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 5:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
The kind of churn he has in cabinet positions is not healthy. Even at my level, I am very careful of hiring an employee-it is not easy to fire someone with all the laws and regulations/documentation needed/lawsuits. I don't know what he was thinking?


It might be time to face up to the fact trump is a shitty manager and always has been. He was considered a total joke by other developers in NY in the 80's. That would be the developers with successful projects that didn't go into bankruptcy twice a year. I worked on boards with some of those guys, they just laughed about trump.. Until he gave up trying to run things and just became a huckster shilling his name for bucks it was one disaster after another. When the vp of harrah's was asked about being partners with trump. he said "we are now the largest and most profitable casino operator in the world. All of trumps casino's are closed in bankruptcy., I think that says it all."
74   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 6:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
t trump is a shitty manager and always has been


So far he has been unable to hire good people. Most are there not because of him but because being a true patriot, they do not want him to ruin America, Mattis, Kelly and Rosenstein come to mind
75   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 9:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
Now Rosnestien who signed the FISA warrant to spy on trump-an opposition cmapiang


Not that Trump supporters are really interested in truth and facts, but nobody spied on Trump. There was a FISA warrant obtained against Carter Page.

And they got the warrant for good reason:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/03/carter-page-nunes-memo-216934
http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/
http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-congressional-testimony-transcript-steele-dossier-2017-11

I know believing in conspiracy theories is more fun than accepting that the truth is usually much more mundane--in this case, the FBI suspected Page of wrongdoing so they got a warrant to investigate--but Occam's razor applies here.
76   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 10:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
Not that Trump supporters are really interested in truth and facts, but nobody spied on Trump. There was a FISA warrant obtained against Carter Page.


The FISA warrant allowed for the wiretapping of everybody associated with Page, therefore, the Trump campaign and quite possibly Trump.

The original FISA request was rejected, and then the FBI colluded with FusionGPS to create a fake document (the Dossier) to justify a second pass at getting the FISA warrant, which was received. Bruce (DOJ) and Nellie Ohr (FusionGPS) were key in this.

Unprecedented abuse of the Patriot Act, to spy on the opposition. And Obama, despite absolute protests to the contrary, was regularly briefed.

Don't worry, the OIG report comes out soon. The reason Congress isn't allowed to see it is because it's all going to be used in criminal charges and Sessions doesn't want his key evidence leaking. Can't trust Piece of Schiff not to warn those who will be charged and help craft a narrative in advance.

Some have already guessed at prosecution, which is why somebody had a GoFundMe for Legal Expenses before the charges are filed.
77   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 10:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says

Not that Trump supporters are really interested in truth and facts, but nobody spied on Trump.


Trump supporters don't know the difference between spying and surveillence.
78   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 10:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Trump supporters don't know the difference between spying and surveillence.



If the results are used as political fodder, what's the difference?
79   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 10:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
bob2356 says
Trump supporters don't know the difference between spying and surveillence.



If the results are used as political fodder, what's the difference?


One is legal and admissible in court for a start.

TwoScoopsPlissken says
The FISA warrant was rejected, and then the FBI colluded with FusionGPS to create a fake document (the Dossier) to take a second pass at getting the FISA warrant.

Unprecedented abuse of the Patriot Act, to spy on the opposition.


If no one is doing anything wrong then the surveillence would be vindicating and no one would have to tweet about it. The first rule of law is don't act guilty.
80   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 11:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
One is legal and admissible in court for a start.


And using as political fodder? Don't need to go to court for that shit.

bob2356 says
If no one is doing anything wrong then the surveillence would be vindicating and no one would have to tweet about it. The first rule of law is don't act guilty.



Sure, there's nothing wrong with the President getting Wiretaps on the Opposition Presidential Candidate's Team using a phony dossier as an excuse.

Only a CRAZED RIGHT WINGNUT! would complain about that.

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