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Hungary Is Winning Its War on Muslim Immigrants

By c0nfused following x   2018 Apr 14, 2:27pm 1,530 views   13 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-04-13/hungary-is-winning-its-war-on-muslim-immigrants

Orban's Hungary, however, is fiercely against a certain kind of immigrant.

"We've been living next to Islam and with Islam for 500 years and we know it's not going to integrate," government spokesman Zoltan Kovacs told me in an interview this week. "We treat it as a civilizational problem."

According to Kovacs, Muslim immigrants create "parallel societies" in the European countries that receive them, and Hungarians want none of that.


Kovacs is correct about that. Look at any European country with a large Muslim population. It is a fact.

But Bloomberg is on the side of destroying all nations and having only globalized rule by corporations. This makes sense because Bloomberg himself and other capitalist billionaires see clearly that the only thing stronger than the corporations they own is governments. Thus, Bloomberg propagandizes and rationalizes:

International pressure won't soften Hungarian hearts. The only thing that can is evidence that aging countries need foreigners.

The Orban government accuses Soros, the financier and philanthropist, of hatching an evil plan to flood Europe with immigrants to undermine national cultures.


Of course Soros and other billionaires dearly want a flood of unassimilable Muslims exactly in order to undermine national cultures. National cultures are the only thing left in the way of the world being ruled by money alone. Anyone who disagrees will be called racist and Islamophobic.
1   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 14, 4:39pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

c0nfused says
Of course Soros and other billionaires dearly want a flood of unassimilable Muslims exactly in order to undermine national cultures. National cultures are the only thing left in the way of the world being ruled by money alone. Anyone who disagrees will be called racist and Islamophobic.

Great piece.

But let me confess I'm a moron. Just now, as I was running the bath for my kid and zoned out, I realized what the war on Western Civ is all about.

If you want your worldview to be tops, you do everything possible to dethrone the most appealing, most wisespread, most vibrant culture of all, Western Civ. THAT's the reason that insane ideas that all cultures are equal and playing up the bad but none of the immense good of Western Civ is well funded at all levels by a handful of powerful Oligarchs. Break down all national barriers, import huge numbers of non-Western migrants, and hope to create a stew that ends up greatly diluting Western Civ into some grey goo mass. You'll keep things like corporations, the idea that wealth is the prime determinant of a person's value, etc. but you'll kill off any and all Religious belief, the concept of Individual Liberty, and absolutely the nation state.

You see, without Religion, Liberty, or the Nation State, there's nothing to rally around in opposition. Maybe they'll let some 'controlled opposition' with racial grievances continue, that could be useful if any group or subculture gets too powerful (since these things would tend to cluster around race/upbringing).

The danger, next to a Corporate hellworld out of Drudge Dredd, is that it was cause a reaction of Fascism, which isn't nationalist (a nation is a series of cultural norms, law, and philosophical outlook) but racist (which is far wider reaching). The Nazis were racists, but not nationalists - this book I'm reading is amazing. Hitler, Uruqart, Goebbels, etc. were after a Racial Union, not just in it for Germany or Italy.

Why else is Orban so loathed by the EU? He's a rallying point around which anti-Oligarch (anti-Soros) sentiment can gather. No sane person can believe Hungary has a shortage of labor, given they, like similarly anti-migrant Poland, export their own youth labor in massive quantities now because of the limited opportunities.

Isn't interesting the Soros, Koch Bros, Slim, etc. all have a militant open borders mentality. It's not just a preference for fewer border restrictions, but a desire to see it go entirely.
2   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 14, 5:32pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Why else is Orban so loathed by the EU? He's a rallying point around which anti-Oligarch (anti-Soros) sentiment can gather. No sane person can believe Hungary has a shortage of labor, given they, like similarly anti-migrant Poland, export their own youth labor in massive quantities now because of the limited opportunities.


I think you're right @TwoScoopsPlissken

The article does not make sense given that Hungary has plenty of youth labor.

So it really is just about destroying all national identities and borders so that there can be no opposition to corporate rule.
3   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 14, 5:44pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Why else is Orban so loathed by the EU? He's a rallying point around which anti-Oligarch (anti-Soros) sentiment can gather. No sane person can believe Hungary has a shortage of labor, given they, like similarly anti-migrant Poland, export their own youth labor in massive quantities now because of the limited opportunities.


I think you're right @TwoScoopsPlissken

The article does not make sense given that Hungary has plenty of youth labor.

So it really is just about destroying all national identities and borders so that there can be no opposition to corporate rule.


It's not just that. Politicians aren't stupid and they know what wins elections. After the fall of the former Soviet union all those nationalistic and tribalistic feelings that were brutally suppressed during communism flourished again and ironically made the eastern European nations the stalwart beacons of defending the caucasian Christian race and culture(s) against global leftist cultural-marxism. Look at the demonstrations in Poland and Hungary, they are not just demonstrating for their leaders, but for their people, tribe and culture.
4   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 14, 5:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, I can believe that Eastern Europe is much more nationalistic because they are still recovering from the suppression of nationalism under communism.
5   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 14, 5:53pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's not just Communism and mutual dick-over by Germans, but also European History.

The Western Europeans hid behind a shield of Polish and Hungarian Hussars; it was at the various Sieges of Vienna that Ottoman Colonialist Imperialist Expansion was checked.

It's as important to Eastern European identity as the Revolutionary War is to the Americans. But to the Western European internationalists, it was just some ancient conflict of little interest.
6   MAGA   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 14, 6:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Yes, I can believe that Eastern Europe is much more nationalistic because they are still recovering from the suppression of nationalism under communism.



Is there something wrong with Patrick.net where people can't post new information?
7   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 14, 7:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@jvolstad Do you mean something technically wrong with the site, or just that you knew this about Eastern Europe already?
8   MAGA   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 14, 7:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
@jvolstad Do you mean something technically wrong with the site, or just that you knew this about Eastern Europe already?


Technically wrong. I don't see the post button anymore.
9   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 14, 7:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Damn, you're right!

Fixed now. Thanks for catching that. The site has been getting spammed, so I made 3 comments a requirement to start a new post, but I did it wrong.
10   HEYYOU   ignore (21)   2018 Apr 14, 7:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

How many illegals do Dumb Ass Trump & his Retard Republicans have left to deport?
Why do Rep/Cons have to pay taxes to support Rapist & Murderers?
12   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 15, 7:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Anyone who disagrees will be called racist and Islamophobic.



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