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Please explain the Philadelphia Starbucks thing to me

By CovfefeButDeadly following x   2018 Apr 16, 10:09am 2,484 views   79 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/business/wp/2018/04/16/two-black-men-were-arrested-at-starbucks-ceo-now-calling-for-unconscious-bias-training/

Everything I’ve read seems to be leaving out a large part of the story....such as why the store called the police and how the police got from arriving on scene, to arresting the men. So I don’t understand what the protests are about.

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40   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 6:55pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

EBGuy says
Former police officer Brandon Tatum breaks it down here.


Here is the transcript from Brandon Tatum's video:

Published on Apr 15, 2018

Two Black Men Arrested for Acting Entitled At Starbucks. Here is another
example of African American men feeling that they are above the law. A major
issue in the black community is the lack of respecting authority. This
situation would have been a non-issue if these two black men would have just
simply followed Starbucks protocol like everyone else. Also, If white people
were not so afraid of being deemed racist or even feel a high level of white
guilt, this video would have never been recorded. Starbucks being the cowardice
organization they are, apologized for no reason. What a shame. This isn't
helping black people or anyone in America for god's sake.

so it's time for me to make a video
about these two individuals who were
arrested at Starbucks the other day and
the outrage has started and then it
continues even the day of the arrest
they're still they're still you know
acting a fool about this stuff so let's
talk about this so if you had to seen
the video a couple days ago a young lady
a white girl posted a video a little
short excerpt video of police arresting
two black guys at Starbucks in
Philadelphia now I looked at the
demographic I grew up the demographic of
the zip code that this was in and found
that it's probably 80 percent white and
this is rarely a representation of black
people in this particular zip code so
take it as you may there's not a lot of
black people around this area so anyway
this young lady ended up taping the very
tail end of the interaction that led to
the arrest of two black people on in
Starbucks now the rhetoric initially was
that this is racist as usual is if it's
white people and black people no matter
what happened no matter what the
circumstances are no matter if there's
information or no information is
automatically races to some people in
America so it starts out as being
completely racist that the barista or
whoever called not on one because these
people were black and they were just
doing nothing minding their own business
it's Italy somehow illegal to be black
in a Starbucks this is racism and its
finest America needs to change this is
the whole rhetoric that's going on but
yeah the white girl mind you the white
girl that submitted this video was also
in conjunction with claiming that this
is racism and that these black people
didn't do nothing and then everybody
should boycott Starbucks then we found
out the truth and I'm gonna give you a
quick backstory on this about my
involvement there's a post that
literally got like I don't know it's
probably up to like five or six million
views on it right now but when it was
maybe I'd like a couple thousand views I
wrote a message on and said
because I know what's going on yeah I
was a police officer for six years and
I've been in the hundreds of cars just
like this I know exactly what's going on
so I wrote on there that you know hey
you know y'all need to stop the way
there's no real information here but
stop blindly looking at posts with no
concrete information and I got him I'm
talking about if you look at that thing
right now it's thousands and thousands
of comments replies to my comment 90% of
those people on there are black 90% or
more of the people in there are
disparaging me literally calling me the
N word calling me a coon telling me I'm
a sellout pretty much that I should die
that I'm the scum of the earth
I'm self-hating black man I'm just I'm
just I'm banished from the black
community
y'all don't believe me go on my Facebook
page and look at the post I'm getting
slammed on there and I end of course I
don't care because these people were
idiots but I'm getting completely
slammed in there in the whole time I
understand that I know the truth
I know the truth I know what the truth
is I've been in this situation you don't
get arrested just because listen you
don't get arrested first of all I'm
shocked that Starbucks plenty of times I
go there to meet people all the time and
I patronize Starbucks I go and I buy
something I sit down and I wait we talk
we eat whatever we do we do our thing at
Starbucks we I've never been to
Starbucks as a police officer or as a
civilian I've never been in Starbucks
and not purchased something the reason I
go to Starbucks because I walk to try
their coffee and I want to eat or drink
some of their products while I'm sitting
there if I didn't want their stuff I
will go to another coffee shop or I meet
somebody somewhere else the only reason
I pick Starbucks because I like the
green tea latte that's my favorite green
so he grants he lattes my favorite I go
in there and drink my life saying we
meet you we have a good conversation
everybody in there is doing the same
thing I don't see people in there whom
you know haven't purchased something or
are not abiding by the rules I don't see
people that are doing it never never
have I've seen anybody never have I seen
any barista have a problem with anybody
in that because people are buying stuff
in there
is an organization the company so
regardless of that they blasted me and
everything and I knew that this had to
be a trespassing issue I knew that it
had to be a trespassing issue because
you don't get arrested for not order and
stuff police want even show up if you
call and say these people are ordering
anything when you ask the person to
leave they refuse to leave you caught a
police when the police get there nine
times out of ten we actually leave and
say look man we can try to arrest you
like they want you to leave their
property you say no we arrest you that's
just the way it goes now looking at the
whole thing I'm like oh this is probably
exactly what happened now I didn't know
but I said don't be blindly looking at
it waiting to the information come out
well the information came out I was 100%
correct they were violating the policy
of you you know you have to go or you
purchase some before you can use a
restroom I have seen that in most
major businesses because what they don't
want to happen is they don't want
homeless people to come in and then they
don't want people crowding up the space
and utilizing their their seating areas
when you have people who are actually
trying to purchase things and dying in
they don't have anywhere to sit and you
just showed up in there as if this is
some public area it's a private business
like if people are paying and want to
sit down they deserve to sit why you
just want to come in and hang out that's
why people make those rules and mandates
because if they don't people from
everywhere it will just come and use
their Wi-Fi for free like these people
got to make money it's a business if
this was your business you wouldn't want
people to do that anyway but that's
another story the truth comes out I post
about the truth and they steal railroad
oh oh you just erases how do i how do we
believe the Commissioner is black by the
way the Commission of Philadelphia
commissioners black black people are
running the Philadelphia Police
Department every aspect of it a sergeant
on the scene supervisor I don't know
what position he's in
I'm assuming he's a supervisor because
I've been there and done that and the
man who ain't putting hands on nobody
that's just standing there you know
orchestrating the thing is probably our
supervisor sergeant so the sergeant on
the scene is black so you got a black
commissioner in a black sergeant who's
orchestrating this whole thing
and the commissioners who give you
information to say it unequivocally this
is not a racial issue this has nothing
to do with racism no not a racial issue
the black supervisor was there at the
scene the black commissioner gave a
statement data still don't want to
believe me they still how do we know
that's even true so they criticized me
on that come to find out I'm a
completely true but my thing and the
reason why I'm making this video and on
our way to the end to make this
declaration it's because I honestly feel
like this is such a big problem in the
black community and nobody wants to talk
about it people say you're always
talking about the black community but
this is the stuff that we do this is the
stuff that we find ourself in every day
almost every day you turn around weak
nagging and complaining about something
we jump to racism every day you know
that to me that is an indictment on
white people I don't understand how you
feel comfortable saying you know
information I'll shield you breach the
racist they just doing it because these
people black therefore without any
information you are projecting racism on
another group and you get mad when
people project things on black people
and I'm gonna tell you a few things that
I think black people need to work on and
this is this is culturally I wish that
they would be receptive or some of these
people would be receptive to true
leadership that will call you out for
the truth call you out for what you're
doing wrong keep it 100 foot for thirty
minutes please first of all why do we
have such a hard time following
instructions we can't kill the most I'm
saying we could kill the most you know
when it when it seems to be avoidable by
police officers out of any other race
completely affordable situations we find
ourself in whether we going to jail
whether we getting murdered why don't we
just follow the instructions when you go
to an organization that do not belong to
you there's our somebody owning it
they're making money off that they're
probably feeding their family off of
that star but there's baristas and other
people I don't know the title anybody
else I just know baristas they're in
there and they're making money
feed their family or to take care of
themselves why won't you respect
people's business why don't you have a
little bit of respect for authority
these people have authority over you
because it's a private business you kid
you don't run their business they can
make you leave if they want to why do we
have a hard time listening to rules and
guidelines I guarantee you I can almost
bet a million dollars I don't have me
I've been a hundred dollars that they
ask them simply sir you know you guys
are not buying anything our policy is
that we can't use the restroom here so
if you're not gonna buy anything we're
gonna ask you guys leave of course they
don't leave and in quote in quotes that
they estimate say hey we're gonna call
the police if you don't leave they said
we don't care cata police then here we
go again brother's not following
instructions in following direction they
feel like they're above the law and they
don't leave the police show up they tell
them hey they won't you guys leave will
you mind leaving no we're not gonna
leave so then they call more and more
police officers if you look at any
testimony of this case even by the
witness who recorded a very minimal part
of the video she even said first police
- police came and then multiple police
start coming and coming - coming
it's because they wanted that they
wanted to be rebellious and say well
we're not gonna leave a private facility
and the cops they just leave man like
they don't want you here you're not
gonna pay for anything either pay or you
leave whether or not we you or something
we're victims we you or some nobody oh
you nothing man Starbucks all you never
the police partner owe you nothing but
the mentality that some black people
have is that somehow somebody owe you
something so you don't leave and I say
well we're gonna rest up and they bring
on these police officers in there who do
you know oh the white woman in there
playing social justice warrior this is
what's killing us man and the two other
people that made this point and I'm
piggy backing out for their point is
that white liberals are destroying black
people in wheat and we we just we can't
see it with our own eyes no story short
they get arrested they get escorted out
people white people led by white people
are protesting and boycotting the
Starbucks as if this was a racial thing
and that's not helping black people
because young black people need to
understand that you need to follow the
rules
okay so for God's sake just follow the
rules if they say purchase something
just buy something if you don't wanna
buy some ladies people's establishment
kick like how is that so hard man Wow
why do we want to make ourselves look
stupid because we just look stupid too
most common sense people in the world
they look at that situation say boy
cotton who these black people go again
boycott some protesters something what
is they're gonna fix nothing instead of
them why are they breaking the rules and
breaking the law run a week
why don't we protest that we don't want
to do that and and I'm telling you man
I'm telling you the white liberals and I
forgetting to do his name but I posted
his video on my unit to my facebook
channel the white liberals are killing
us man they're embarrassing us they're
destroying our image and we looking at
the Republicans and conservatives like
y'all are the racists know the people
that you are supporting are the ones
that's destroying your communities how
do you not know this what the white
woman is the one made this a big deal
the white one we made is a big deal and
then the other white guy is this a fair
instigator
well were they arrested cuz they're
black are you dumb but they don't want
to perpetuate this and make us look
stupid as to left shoes because they
they make the outrage and then when the
truth come out we look dumb we run
following directions the police officer
actually breaking a law we get arrested
thank God that Starbucks it was a
Starbucks is a cowardice organization
they're cowards they have to be cowards
they worry about your money they're not
worried about the truth so they make it
a policy and they don't want to
prosecute against them that was my place
I'll prosecute against nothing I'll go
to jail
I want to prosecute to the full extent
go to jail y'all that made us look bad
now and we all we did was actually to
leave if you weren't going to patronize
the organization go to jail
I won't press charges I will show up in
court and defendant but because they
want to be politically correct and
there's some social justice warriors as
an organization themselves they want to
put out official apology
you know it's shameful so I'm done
talking about that man listen I just
want to throw my - Center
I would like to splice the videos and
all that cool stuff but right now I
don't have time to do all that so we
need to really change man this is what's
killing at the black community we won't
even find out the register where we and
somebody else established one file
directions and i'ma say this let me let
me put this last point I don't know if
you see how these brothers is dressed
but not one of them a dress professional
at Harlem they don't they don't look
like they're doing anything professional
and people could criticize me all you
want about that but like just imagine
this is the culture that we live in
that's just destroying us yo there's a
look that you should have when you're
presenting yourself as a professional
there is a look like how about you were
a nice button-up shirt how about you
were slacks and some nice clothes so
when people look at you they like oh man
these guys look very important white
black or green you look very important
and then you could probably be making
money while you waiting on old boy to
come over and meet you people are in the
in the copy shop looking at you like
what are you guys doing for a living oh
we're real-estate agents hey if you like
to sell a house you know or you like to
buy a house or whatever we can work with
you and make it happen when you look
professional and you have a nice haircut
or you have your face trimmed up at
least at least line it up a little bit
like I do mine every now and again if
you look professional you get more
clientele people are more interesting to
you when you're showing up at a coffee
shop looking like bugs
they look like dogs they look like this
I'm just I'm just gonna be honest the
one kid got I don't know what that stuff
he had his head looking crazy boy cut
your hair now people can say what they
want to say where did gold and live your
life and do whatever you want to do and
present yourself the way you want to and
then wonder why people judge you and you
don't get a lot of good business I'm
just being honest my pastor told me when
I was working the decennial Census
Bureau I was going door-to-door he said
boy where are you a club where you a
button-up shirt took your shirt in wear
nice clothes and you present yourself as
a profession
this is the decennial Census Bureau this
means nothing to me
you know this I'm just going knocking on
doors Amy you need to fill out your
census bit your census form my past a
dress up you look nice you be
professional what happened what happened
to me when I did that people were
literally calling my supervisor this guy
is so professional I was leaps and
bounds above everybody else to the point
where as the youngest got air and the
only black guy there they they promoted
me to supervisor because I was
professional I dressed the part and I
took what I was doing seriously and
people honored that they respected that
and I got promoted to a supervisor all
these other people I was working with
now I'm leading them all because of the
way I presented myself but but I'm chef
hating and all this other stuff that
people want to say and I know I'm just
judging him how they how you gonna tell
black people how to dress I'm just
trying to give y'all some hints because
I've done it I'm dressed professional
and I've gotten a lot of respect for it
and I've made it a lot of places in life
because of the way I present myself but
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41   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 7:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
Dont forget random dyed hair color feminist in the back
And the fat third from left in the rear--it's a package deal today.
42   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 7:06pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The CEO of Starbucks apologized, which indicates the store manager screwed up.

The screw-up being that non paying loiters should be allowed to take up seats and use facilities for an indefinite period?

So I presume the Starbucks policy will now be to allow long term loitering without question? Interesting to see if SJW and related ilk will test this policy en mass. Even funnier if they bring a McCafe in with the laptop.
43   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I don't buy the "waiting for a friend" crap.

Who doesn't order a coffee because you're waiting for a third person.

"Oh no man, it's rude to have a drink at the bar or order a coffee while waiting for somebody at a table in a cafe."
44   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 7:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Usually, unless I can clearly see that the owners don't care or or are otherwise busy with more important things, I always ask if I can used the restroom if I am not buying anything.
45   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Hotep Jesus gets his free Reparations coffee from Starbucks

Starbucks is racist https://t.co/fPf3ERMlXX

— Hotep Jesus 🧠 (@VibeHi) April 15, 2018

46   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 7:36pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
Usually, unless I can clearly see that the owners don't care or or are otherwise busy with more important things, I always ask if I can used the restroom if I am not buying anything.


Or you could just "be white" and spring for a small beverage if you will use the rest room.
47   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:41pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
However punk was there to offend the system and be politically incorrect, it was there for the workers to rail against the government. Today's left rails WITH the government against ordinary people with their identity politics bullshit and not surprisingly quite a few old punk legends have turned against the left and some even embraced Trump. Because they know if they were to play their music from the past today and live their life from the past today, they wouldn't be targeted by the right (which used to be the case in the past), but instead by the left.


Funny you should mention this.

The SJWs are now going after Phil Collins, USA for Africa, Aerosmith (you knew they would flip if they heard "Dude looks like a Lady"), the Vapors ("Turning Japanese"), etc.
48   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 7:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
mell says
However punk was there to offend the system and be politically incorrect, it was there for the workers to rail against the government. Today's left rails WITH the government against ordinary people with their identity politics bullshit and not surprisingly quite a few old punk legends have turned against the left and some even embraced Trump. Because they know if they were to play their music from the past today and live their life from the past today, they wouldn't be targeted by the right (which used to be the case in the past), but instead by the left.


Funny you should mention this.

The SJWs are now going after Phil Collins, USA for Africa, Aerosmith (you knew they would flip if they heard "Dude looks like a Lady"), the Vapors ("Turning Japanese"), etc.


I can only think of this as click-bait to sell ads on the same page, the thought of anybody taking such articles seriously is deeply troubling ;)
49   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 8:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HeadSet says
mell says
Usually, unless I can clearly see that the owners don't care or or are otherwise busy with more important things, I always ask if I can used the restroom if I am not buying anything.


Or you could just "be white" and spring for a small beverage if you will use the rest room.


Yeah if they say I must be a customer that's the backup plan. It may have had to do a bit with their appearance as well. I heard some Asian millenials in the restaurant talk about this rayscysm as if the fact-less conjecture report was gospel. Frighteningly naive. But then after a while at least one of them - dismissing white guilt - said, "I can't change the fact that I have white (yellow) skin and I am also a proud American". Atta-boy, apparently not all hope is lost.
50   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 8:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I lost all respect for Sbux
51   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 8:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The Manager was a dumbass, he should have insisted on being fired, then his lawyers could get a copy of the trespassing policy, show he was in total compliance, and get him a payout.

Posturing Executives blaming the low guy on the totem pole again - for following their own store policies.
52   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 8:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

This is our future. When Trump is impeached and SJWs take over-this is our future.
53   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 8:27pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Glad I sold my sbux stock a while ago. I really wish they had not gotten into politics at all.
55   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

If I need to use a restroom, I just walk into a Starbucks or something and use it. If it's locked and needs a token, I just ask for one and tell them I need to use the restroom before ordering.
57   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 10:35am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Ok so we have a bit more. First, the story as originally told, omitted enough facts as to be misleading. Second the police did absolutely nothing wrong. Third, the victims were non compliant. This is what created the arrest and was a really bad idea. Cops ask you to do something, even if you think it’s within your rights to not do it, you do it. “Hey just leave so we don’t have to arrest you” “no, we didn’t do anything wrong”. This will always end bad. Fourth, the white lliberal morons who were there and commenting that the two guys did nothing are really really stupid. I can’t emphasize this enough. Painfully stupid and ignorant.

Anyway all of this could have been avoided unless the point is to create yet another media shit storm.probably why the media refused to report the truth in the first place.

P N Dr Lo R says
lostand confused says
SJWs take over-this is our future.
It just escalates:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/philadelphia-starbucks-1.4621266
58   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 10:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CovfefeButDeadly says
“Hey just leave so we don’t have to arrest you” “no, we didn’t do anything wrong”.


Ouch. They just did something wrong by refusing to leave. I'm changing my opinion on this incident. Those two were foolishly combative. This is what happens when you lack common sense.
60   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 11:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

zzyzzx says

Lol meme of the year so far!
62   theoakman   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:05pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Jesus, I don't even think that the workers did anything wrong. Those tables fill up and if your paying customers can't sit and do their work or just enjoy their drink, there is a problem. Any normal person would have bought their coffee, sat down, and waited for the person they were supposed to meet. Now, because one store had an incident which I'm not even going to fault them fore, all stores nationwide need to suffer and be put through some stupid training? Society has reached a level of derangement that is absolutely perplexing.
63   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 3:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The left is fighting for the right to use the bathroom at Starbucks without purchasing anything.
64   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 3:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

This has not affected Starbucks stock price, so far. I find this puzzling.
65   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 3:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

theoakman says
Society has reached a level of derangement that is absolutely perplexing.
I think it's called mass hysteria. Somewhat like the Amerault and McMartin child molestation cases of the 80's and 90's.
66   HowdyThere   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 7:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.
67   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 10:35pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HowdyThere says
Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.


I can’t beleive I’m saying this, but Rin is right. Millennial males need to start fucking ho’s. It’s the only way to save the United States.
68   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 8:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

America’s schools teach boys to be wimps. Fucking hoes isn’t going to undo that damage.

CovfefeButDeadly says
HowdyThere says
Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.


I can’t beleive I’m saying this, but Rin is right. Millennial males need to start fucking ho’s. It’s the only way to save the United States.
69   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 8:51am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Saw on the news, ghetto riots over sbux still lol. Sbux ceo like idiot is bending backwards to satisfy stupid.
70   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 8:59am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Saw on the news, ghetto riots over sbux still lol. Sbux ceo like idiot is bending backwards to satisfy stupid.


Yup. About a million Americans are redpilled every time an idiot powerful liberal bends over for the insane EXTREME left. Thanks for helping to #MAGA Sbux!
71   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 10:19am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Saw on the news, ghetto riots over sbux still lol. Sbux ceo like idiot is bending backwards to satisfy stupid.


I'd argue hes bending over forward, but semantics.
72   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 11:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HowdyThere says
Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.


I'm sorry.
73   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 12:10pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Apologizing when you've done nothing wrong just invites more demands for apologies, and free stuff.

A better response would be for the executives to politely say that the store did nothing wrong. A store is not a free public restroom. The restroom maintenance in a private business is paid for by customers who buy things, and the public should respect that and buy something if they want to use the restroom. Starbucks might get a lot of public support for showing some spine instead of being spineless.

If the public wants public restrooms, that's a valid concern and could be dealt with as other public infrastructure like roads is dealt with, via taxes.
74   Automan Empire   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 12:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Apologizing when you've done nothing wrong just invites more demands for apologies, and free stuff.

the public should respect that and buy something if they want to use the restroom. Starbucks might get a lot of public support for showing some spine instead of being spineless.


Bravo! The part that is glaringly absent from the national discussion!

I had a guy get salty with me when I didn't initially let him use my shop bathroom. He had bought a motorhome from me almost a year before, and I totally didn't recognize him when he pushed into the office one morning and greeted me with, "YAW DON'T GOT A BAFROOM!?!" After introductions, explanation, and him using the bathroom, he still complained we treated him rudely. That's the way literal bums demand to use the restroom, then proceed to fuck it all up inside. Act like one, get treated like one.
75   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 12:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
The left is fighting for the right to use the bathroom at Starbucks without purchasing anything.


And after "public use" is established, then will come the condemnation for insufficient of handicap access. After that, smack downs for not having all restrooms "gender neutral."
76   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 12:44pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

An employee said Starbucks company policy was to refuse the use of the restrooms to non-customers and asked the men to leave

Hey, bring back Pay Toilets, problem solved. Appeal to Millennials by allowing "pay by app" instead of just putting quarters in a slot.
77   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 12:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Of course, if we move to Pay Toilets we will need to update the old Rhyme to:

Here I sit, broken hearted
Charged my App, but only farted

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