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Please explain the Philadelphia Starbucks thing to me

By CovfefeButDeadly following x   2018 Apr 16, 10:09am 2,939 views   79 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/business/wp/2018/04/16/two-black-men-were-arrested-at-starbucks-ceo-now-calling-for-unconscious-bias-training/

Everything I’ve read seems to be leaving out a large part of the story....such as why the store called the police and how the police got from arriving on scene, to arresting the men. So I don’t understand what the protests are about.

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41   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 7:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
Dont forget random dyed hair color feminist in the back
And the fat third from left in the rear--it's a package deal today.
42   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 7:06pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The CEO of Starbucks apologized, which indicates the store manager screwed up.

The screw-up being that non paying loiters should be allowed to take up seats and use facilities for an indefinite period?

So I presume the Starbucks policy will now be to allow long term loitering without question? Interesting to see if SJW and related ilk will test this policy en mass. Even funnier if they bring a McCafe in with the laptop.
43   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I don't buy the "waiting for a friend" crap.

Who doesn't order a coffee because you're waiting for a third person.

"Oh no man, it's rude to have a drink at the bar or order a coffee while waiting for somebody at a table in a cafe."
44   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Usually, unless I can clearly see that the owners don't care or or are otherwise busy with more important things, I always ask if I can used the restroom if I am not buying anything.
45   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Hotep Jesus gets his free Reparations coffee from Starbucks

Starbucks is racist https://t.co/fPf3ERMlXX

— Hotep Jesus 🧠 (@VibeHi) April 15, 2018

46   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 16, 7:36pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
Usually, unless I can clearly see that the owners don't care or or are otherwise busy with more important things, I always ask if I can used the restroom if I am not buying anything.


Or you could just "be white" and spring for a small beverage if you will use the rest room.
47   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:41pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
However punk was there to offend the system and be politically incorrect, it was there for the workers to rail against the government. Today's left rails WITH the government against ordinary people with their identity politics bullshit and not surprisingly quite a few old punk legends have turned against the left and some even embraced Trump. Because they know if they were to play their music from the past today and live their life from the past today, they wouldn't be targeted by the right (which used to be the case in the past), but instead by the left.


Funny you should mention this.

The SJWs are now going after Phil Collins, USA for Africa, Aerosmith (you knew they would flip if they heard "Dude looks like a Lady"), the Vapors ("Turning Japanese"), etc.
48   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 7:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
mell says
However punk was there to offend the system and be politically incorrect, it was there for the workers to rail against the government. Today's left rails WITH the government against ordinary people with their identity politics bullshit and not surprisingly quite a few old punk legends have turned against the left and some even embraced Trump. Because they know if they were to play their music from the past today and live their life from the past today, they wouldn't be targeted by the right (which used to be the case in the past), but instead by the left.


Funny you should mention this.

The SJWs are now going after Phil Collins, USA for Africa, Aerosmith (you knew they would flip if they heard "Dude looks like a Lady"), the Vapors ("Turning Japanese"), etc.


I can only think of this as click-bait to sell ads on the same page, the thought of anybody taking such articles seriously is deeply troubling ;)
49   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 8:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HeadSet says
mell says
Usually, unless I can clearly see that the owners don't care or or are otherwise busy with more important things, I always ask if I can used the restroom if I am not buying anything.


Or you could just "be white" and spring for a small beverage if you will use the rest room.


Yeah if they say I must be a customer that's the backup plan. It may have had to do a bit with their appearance as well. I heard some Asian millenials in the restaurant talk about this rayscysm as if the fact-less conjecture report was gospel. Frighteningly naive. But then after a while at least one of them - dismissing white guilt - said, "I can't change the fact that I have white (yellow) skin and I am also a proud American". Atta-boy, apparently not all hope is lost.
50   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 8:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I lost all respect for Sbux
51   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 16, 8:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The Manager was a dumbass, he should have insisted on being fired, then his lawyers could get a copy of the trespassing policy, show he was in total compliance, and get him a payout.

Posturing Executives blaming the low guy on the totem pole again - for following their own store policies.
52   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 8:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

This is our future. When Trump is impeached and SJWs take over-this is our future.
53   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 16, 8:27pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Glad I sold my sbux stock a while ago. I really wish they had not gotten into politics at all.
55   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

If I need to use a restroom, I just walk into a Starbucks or something and use it. If it's locked and needs a token, I just ask for one and tell them I need to use the restroom before ordering.
57   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 10:35am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Ok so we have a bit more. First, the story as originally told, omitted enough facts as to be misleading. Second the police did absolutely nothing wrong. Third, the victims were non compliant. This is what created the arrest and was a really bad idea. Cops ask you to do something, even if you think it’s within your rights to not do it, you do it. “Hey just leave so we don’t have to arrest you” “no, we didn’t do anything wrong”. This will always end bad. Fourth, the white lliberal morons who were there and commenting that the two guys did nothing are really really stupid. I can’t emphasize this enough. Painfully stupid and ignorant.

Anyway all of this could have been avoided unless the point is to create yet another media shit storm.probably why the media refused to report the truth in the first place.

P N Dr Lo R says
lostand confused says
SJWs take over-this is our future.
It just escalates:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/philadelphia-starbucks-1.4621266
58   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 10:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CovfefeButDeadly says
“Hey just leave so we don’t have to arrest you” “no, we didn’t do anything wrong”.


Ouch. They just did something wrong by refusing to leave. I'm changing my opinion on this incident. Those two were foolishly combative. This is what happens when you lack common sense.
60   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 17, 11:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

zzyzzx says

Lol meme of the year so far!
62   theoakman   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 1:05pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Jesus, I don't even think that the workers did anything wrong. Those tables fill up and if your paying customers can't sit and do their work or just enjoy their drink, there is a problem. Any normal person would have bought their coffee, sat down, and waited for the person they were supposed to meet. Now, because one store had an incident which I'm not even going to fault them fore, all stores nationwide need to suffer and be put through some stupid training? Society has reached a level of derangement that is absolutely perplexing.
63   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 3:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The left is fighting for the right to use the bathroom at Starbucks without purchasing anything.
64   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 17, 3:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

This has not affected Starbucks stock price, so far. I find this puzzling.
65   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 3:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

theoakman says
Society has reached a level of derangement that is absolutely perplexing.
I think it's called mass hysteria. Somewhat like the Amerault and McMartin child molestation cases of the 80's and 90's.
66   HowdyThere   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 17, 7:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.
67   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 17, 10:35pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HowdyThere says
Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.


I can’t beleive I’m saying this, but Rin is right. Millennial males need to start fucking ho’s. It’s the only way to save the United States.
68   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 8:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

America’s schools teach boys to be wimps. Fucking hoes isn’t going to undo that damage.

CovfefeButDeadly says
HowdyThere says
Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.


I can’t beleive I’m saying this, but Rin is right. Millennial males need to start fucking ho’s. It’s the only way to save the United States.
69   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 8:51am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Saw on the news, ghetto riots over sbux still lol. Sbux ceo like idiot is bending backwards to satisfy stupid.
70   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Apr 18, 8:59am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Saw on the news, ghetto riots over sbux still lol. Sbux ceo like idiot is bending backwards to satisfy stupid.


Yup. About a million Americans are redpilled every time an idiot powerful liberal bends over for the insane EXTREME left. Thanks for helping to #MAGA Sbux!
71   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Apr 18, 10:19am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Saw on the news, ghetto riots over sbux still lol. Sbux ceo like idiot is bending backwards to satisfy stupid.


I'd argue hes bending over forward, but semantics.
72   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 11:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HowdyThere says
Predictions for the 2030 interpretation of current events? Personally, I foresee that there will be apologies for apologies that were made in response to apologies from some group that perceive an injustice that wasn't adequately apologized for.


I'm sorry.
73   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 12:10pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Apologizing when you've done nothing wrong just invites more demands for apologies, and free stuff.

A better response would be for the executives to politely say that the store did nothing wrong. A store is not a free public restroom. The restroom maintenance in a private business is paid for by customers who buy things, and the public should respect that and buy something if they want to use the restroom. Starbucks might get a lot of public support for showing some spine instead of being spineless.

If the public wants public restrooms, that's a valid concern and could be dealt with as other public infrastructure like roads is dealt with, via taxes.
74   Automan Empire   ignore (0)   2018 Apr 18, 12:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Apologizing when you've done nothing wrong just invites more demands for apologies, and free stuff.

the public should respect that and buy something if they want to use the restroom. Starbucks might get a lot of public support for showing some spine instead of being spineless.


Bravo! The part that is glaringly absent from the national discussion!

I had a guy get salty with me when I didn't initially let him use my shop bathroom. He had bought a motorhome from me almost a year before, and I totally didn't recognize him when he pushed into the office one morning and greeted me with, "YAW DON'T GOT A BAFROOM!?!" After introductions, explanation, and him using the bathroom, he still complained we treated him rudely. That's the way literal bums demand to use the restroom, then proceed to fuck it all up inside. Act like one, get treated like one.
75   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 12:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
The left is fighting for the right to use the bathroom at Starbucks without purchasing anything.


And after "public use" is established, then will come the condemnation for insufficient of handicap access. After that, smack downs for not having all restrooms "gender neutral."
76   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 12:44pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

An employee said Starbucks company policy was to refuse the use of the restrooms to non-customers and asked the men to leave

Hey, bring back Pay Toilets, problem solved. Appeal to Millennials by allowing "pay by app" instead of just putting quarters in a slot.
77   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Apr 18, 12:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Of course, if we move to Pay Toilets we will need to update the old Rhyme to:

Here I sit, broken hearted
Charged my App, but only farted

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