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Another reason to bless the end of TPP


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2018 Apr 19, 6:53pm   2,026 views  12 comments

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1   Patrick   2018 Apr 19, 7:49pm  

I met a guy who moved to China and married a Chinese woman, but has now moved back primarily for "food safety". He said it just was not safe to eat the food in China, since so much is fake or contaminated.
2   bob2356   2018 Apr 20, 5:44am  

I didn't read the part of TPP that authorized making coffee out of dead batteries. Want to post that part ?
3   zzyzzx   2018 Apr 20, 6:52am  

Would be pretty funny if Starbucks was selling this coffee.
5   FortWayne   2018 Apr 20, 9:05am  

Tpp made it possible. Critical thinking please bob, engage that brain, you can do it.

bob2356 says
I didn't read the part of TPP that authorized making coffee out of dead batteries. Want to post that part ?
6   bob2356   2018 Apr 20, 11:01am  

FortWayne says
Tpp made it possible. Critical thinking please bob, engage that brain, you can do it.


No one ever adulterated food before tpp? Never? . Want to apply critical thinking and explain how tpp made it possible. I'l be waiting, and waiting, and waiting as always.
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Apr 20, 11:48am  

bob2356 says
No one ever adulterated food before tpp? Never? . Want to apply critical thinking and explain how tpp made it possible. I'l be waiting, and waiting, and waiting as always.



Who is known more for tainted food - Japan, the USA, or developing Asian countries?

Also, how many ICE officers are guaranteed in the TPP to be employed to inspect, knowing that while international trade has exploded. the number of inspectors is almost the same as it was in the 80s before we had an $800B Trade Deficit that TPP will only grow?

I'd say we need at least 1000 new FDA/ICE agents to inspect Asian imports to the USA before TPP can even be considered.

Only 2% of food imports are inspected at all
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44701433/ns/health-food_safety/t/flood-food-imported-us-only-percent-inspected/

The FDA admits it is simply not up to the task of ensuring the safety of food imports, which are entering this country in ever-growing numbers. The FDA expects 24 million shipments of FDA-regulated goods to pass through the nation’s ports of entry this year, up from 6 million a decade ago.

During that time, the number of FDA investigators stayed constant at about 1,350. The agency began adding investigators in 2009 and now has about 1,800 — still far short of the number required to keep up with the pace of imports.


In 2010, FDA inspectors physically examined 2.1 percent of all food-related imports. The FDA expects only 1.6 percent of all food imports to be examined this year and even less — only 1.5 percent — next year, according to its Office of Regulatory Affairs.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/fda-inspectors-not-keeping-pace-with-imports/2011/09/19/gIQAITwo7L_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.66d1b792763c

Fuck American Lives! The Trade Deficit must be grown as fast as possible!

Vietnam is famous for tainted food, even inside the country among Vietnamese. It's been reported for more than a decade now.
http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/special-reports/155277/why-is-unsafe-food-rampant-in-vietnam-.html
https://www.smh.com.au/world/toxic-soy-sauce-chemical-veggies--food-scares-hit-vietnam-20070912-yib.html
8   bob2356   2018 Apr 20, 3:49pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Who is known more for tainted food - Japan, the USA, or developing Asian countries?

Also, how many ICE officers are guaranteed in the TPP to be employed to inspect, knowing that while international trade has exploded. the number of inspectors is almost the same as it was in the 80s before we had an $800B Trade Deficit that TPP will only grow?

I'd say we need at least 1000 new FDA/ICE agents to inspect Asian imports to the USA before TPP can even be considered.


Well that certainly clearly explains why tpp was responsible for someone adulterating coffee. Well maybe not.
9   anonymous   2019 Mar 28, 4:20am  

Trump had a chance for leverage over China but blew it - US businesses are still counting the costs of withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, says the Financial Times' Tom Mitchell.

BEIJING: Last spring a senior US executive complained to a government official about President Donald Trump’s threat to impose wide-ranging tariffs on imports from China in retaliation for allegedly unfair trade practices.

The executive argued that the Trump administration’s fixation on balanced goods trade between the world’s two largest economies as an end in itself was economically pointless.

It ignored America’s service sector surplus with China, while tariffs would disrupt global supply chains and constitute a tax on US companies and their customers.

Without disagreeing, the official had a pointed response: What leverage would the executive use to change Chinese approaches that have frustrated US businesses for decades, from forced technology transfers to state-directed industrial policies?

If nothing else, he argued, Mr Trump’s tariff threat had knocked Beijing off balance and forced it to enter a comprehensive trade negotiation with more urgency than at any point since it joined the World Trade Organisation in 2001.

THE TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP

The executive had a three-letter answer: TPP, referring to the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact from which the US withdrew on Mr Trump’s first day in office.

The exchange highlights the fundamental disconnect between American business and Mr Trump’s China trade policy. While US multinationals support the president’s aim, they hate how he is trying to achieve it.

Almost a year later, we are about to find out if the end has justified the means. By late April, Mr Trump and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping are likely to reach a deal ending their trade war, in which punitive tariffs and counter-tariffs have been imposed on about two-thirds of the countries’ bilateral goods trade.

When they do, the US president will hail centrally directed Chinese purchases of American exports that will temporarily reduce the country’s deficit in traded goods with China, while also making Beijing’s foreign trade regime less market-driven than at present.

US business will be far more focused on China’s “structural” economic concessions — or lack of them — in the agreement.

Will Mr Trump’s trade representative, Robert Lighthizer, be successful in forcing Mr Xi’s lead negotiator, vice-premier Liu He, to make meaningful changes to China’s unique “state capitalism” development model? Or will Mr Lighthizer’s offence prove less formidable than Mr Liu’s defence?

All indications are that Mr Liu is offering a lot less than Mr Lighthizer would like, but Mr Trump is inclined to accept a deal regardless.

FEAR AND DISAPPOINTMENT

US multinationals would be disappointed by this because, after deciding to use the “nuclear option” of tariffs, Mr Trump would have come up short on the trade issues that matter the most to them.

But they will keep quiet about it because they fear a disappointing deal much less than the alternative: More and higher tariffs affecting all goods trade between the two countries as the trade war grinds on.

Perhaps US companies’ biggest disappointment is that the trade deal taking shape, according to people briefed on the negotiations, will be very similar to the bilateral investment treaty the Obama administration was close to reaching in late 2016.

As imperfect as the Obama treaty may have been, it was supposed to coincide with the launch of the TPP, joining the US and 11 other Pacific nations but excluding China.

The strategic challenge posed by the TPP, its backers believe, would have been a far more effective way of convincing Beijing to embrace substantive financial and economic reforms than trying to bludgeon a fiercely nationalistic regime into submission with tariffs.

Instead, Mr Trump withdrew from the TPP and US business is counting the cost in terms of lost market share in Japan.

For US multinationals, the leverage Mr Trump has been seeking over China through tariffs was there all along in the form of the TPP. But sadly for them, he threw it away.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/tpp-should-us-join-trump-had-chance-for-leverage-china-blew-it-11383684
10   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2019 Mar 28, 5:14am  

bob2356 says
I didn't read the part of TPP that authorized making coffee out of dead batteries. Want to post that part ?


Big Bob to the rescue!
11   Shaman   2019 Mar 28, 5:21am  

bob2356 says
I didn't read the part of TPP that authorized making coffee out of dead batteries. Want to post that part ?


Nobody got to read the full TPP. It was a secret treaty document. We’d have to pass it to know what’s in it!
12   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 28, 11:35am  

Congressmen were only allowed into a SCIF room to read drafts; no photocopies or digital copies could be removed.

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