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Iran Deal is Kaput


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2018 May 8, 10:43am   14,650 views  88 comments

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All but certain to happen?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/may/08/iran-nuclear-deal-donald-trump-latest-live-updates
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear/trump-expected-to-exit-iran-deal-europeans-say-tehran-defiant-idUSKBN1I90D6

Well, we found out Iran kept all it's nuclear bomb research, that the plan all along was to make at least five 10KT bombs (not nuclear power), and that memos said they were just waiting for the inspection regime to expire (which it does over the next few years).

The MSM is deceitfully claiming there's nothing but "Old News" even though they haven't seen the 100,000 docs that make up the raw intel. And other things, because the WH has said they have additional information aside from Bibi's Mossad that shows the Ayatollahs have been lying the whole time.

The Iranian Rial is now 42,000 - does this look like a strengthening economy and regime?



Printing money to prop up Hamas, the Houthis, and Hezbollah is not a winning economic strategy.

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1   Strategist   2018 May 8, 10:52am  

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Well, we found out Iran kept all it's nuclear bomb research, that the plan all along was to make at least five 10KT bombs (not nuclear power), and that memos said they were just waiting for the inspection regime to expire (which it does over the next few years).


And to think there were people who actually believed Iran only wanted nuclear technology for electricity.
3   Heraclitusstudent   2018 May 8, 11:04am  

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Well, we found out Iran kept all it's nuclear bomb research, that the plan all along was to make at least five 10KT bombs (not nuclear power), and that memos said they were just waiting for the inspection regime to expire (which it does over the next few years).

One thing is certain, cancelling the deal will not prevent Iran from making a bomb.
Let's see.... Israel, Saudi Arabia, and oil companies didn't like the deal, and Trump is on a mission to remove any trace of Obama's legacy, so... What to expect?
4   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 11:13am  

Heraclitusstudent says
One thing is certain, cancelling the deal will not prevent Iran from making a bomb.


But it may put additional pressure on the regime, which is probably not long for the Earth. The Ayatollahs have thoroughly wrecked the economy, and over the past couple of years, even with the ObamaCash injection, it keeps getting worse. Now they can't even keep their rural religious supporters on the payroll.


Here is the live feed from Indy Broadcasters:

www.youtube.com/embed/Fq9FnGD9Xuc
5   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 8, 11:14am  

But NPR assured me Yesterday that Trump would compromise with the French Granny Fucker and only do a partial pull out.
They said they had sources... LOL!
6   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 11:22am  

Not just dropping out of the Iran Deal... but MAXIMUM SANCTIONS announced. And no trade with those who trade with Iran.

Sorry fly-by-night Franco-German companies, no more sneaky high tech transfers for $$$.

WOW,
7   Strategist   2018 May 8, 11:28am  

The deal is dead. If Iran pursues nukes, they will be sorry. What will Iran do now?
8   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 11:36am  

Aphroman says
Listening to FoxNews with Breitbart on, you’d think that most of the terrorism is funded by Iran, instead of their enemy, Saudi Arabia, who actually does fund the majority of terrorism, and has aided and abetted terrorists who seek to inflict direct harm to our country and our people, including their pivotal role in 9/11



Perhaps, but Saudi Arabia has turned the corner. The Prince formally announced they're ditching Wahabism and moving to moderate Islam, complete with actual steps towards reforming away from Fundamentalism. Iran is doubling down on state sponsored terror using their ObamaCash.

The real disgusting was the overthrow of Qaddafyi, who was fighting Al Qaeda and ISIS and asking us for help and doing everything we wanted him to. Now Libya is a goddamned mess. Thank god the architects of that stupid were kept out of the White House.
9   Strategist   2018 May 8, 11:39am  

Iran: Trump decision is illegal, illegitimate.
he he he.
10   RWSGFY   2018 May 8, 11:40am  

Heraclitusstudent says

One thing is certain, cancelling the deal will not prevent Iran from making a bomb.


Neither is keeping the deal. It was just a speedbump on the Iran's road to owning nukes.
11   Heraclitusstudent   2018 May 8, 11:41am  

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Saudi Arabia has turned the corner. The Prince formally announced they're ditching Wahabism and moving to moderate Islam


In part because of the US was slowly changing it's alliance toward Iran, instead of them.

They had to change or at least look like it.


TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
The real disgusting was the overthrow of Qaddafyi, who was fighting Al Qaeda and ISIS and asking us for help and doing everything we wanted him to. Now Libya is a goddamned mess. Thank god the architects of that stupid were kept out of the White House.


You can blame France and England for that one. There are rumors Qaddafyi was financing Sarkozy's party and he was not going to leave witnesses behind.
12   Heraclitusstudent   2018 May 8, 11:43am  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Neither is keeping the deal. It was just a speedbump on the Iran's road to owning nukes.

A speed bump maybe the best you can hope for.
Some people still act like the US can control whatever happens in the world. The US is about 15% of the world GDP (ppp).
13   socal2   2018 May 8, 11:47am  

Heraclitusstudent says
In part because of the US was slowly changing it's alliance toward Iran, instead of them.


I think it has more to do with America deciding to produce our own oil and gas flooding the market and putting a major hurt on OPEC and Russia. Saudi Arabia no longer has the petro-dollars and influence it once had.

I also think Saudi Arabia got a good look at the Frankenstein monster they helped create (ISIS) and saw no future in it.

Either way, I think we all can be cautiously optimistic on the recent reforms in Saudi Arabia.
14   Heraclitusstudent   2018 May 8, 11:52am  

socal2 says
I think it has more to do with America deciding to produce our own oil and gas flooding the market and putting a major hurt on OPEC and Russia. Saudi Arabia no longer has the petro-dollars and influence it once had.


Iran oil's flowing was also a good part of the collapse of oil prices. Now they will likely soar.
15   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 8, 11:55am  

Aphroman says
instead of their enemy, Saudi Arabia, who actually does fund the majority of terrorism, and has aided and abetted terrorists who seek to inflict direct harm to our country and our people, including their pivotal role in 9/1


Have you been under rock. Do you remember the Palace Coup?
16   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 8, 11:58am  

That Soros family just can't catch a break.

17   RWSGFY   2018 May 8, 11:59am  

Heraclitusstudent says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Neither is keeping the deal. It was just a speedbump on the Iran's road to owning nukes.

A speed bump maybe the best you can hope for.
. Ah, the good old "nothing can be done, let's take this laying down" argument.
18   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 May 8, 11:59am  

Good job President Trump!
19   komputodo   2018 May 8, 12:04pm  

Oh shit, are we back on the brink of nuclear destruction again?
20   bob2356   2018 May 8, 12:08pm  

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says



Perhaps, but Saudi Arabia has turned the corner. The Prince formally announced they're ditching Wahabism and moving to moderate Islam, complete with actual steps towards reforming away from Fundamentalism


So starving 7 million people to death in Yemen is called moderate islam. Got it. I notce the steps towards reforming include jailing anyone who dissents. More moderate islam. How much funding has MBS cut from extremist run madras schools and radical mosques that act as terrorist recruiting and training stations around the world? Are they reforming away from Fundamentalism also? ROFLOL.
21   bob2356   2018 May 8, 12:11pm  

komputodo says
Oh shit, are we back on the brink of nuclear destruction again?


I guess we will know when trump reveals his well thought out plan of where we go next that I'm sure he has laid out in detail with our allies. I mean no one would be stupid enough to make such a big move without a plan for going forward. Would they?
22   socal2   2018 May 8, 12:14pm  

bob2356 says
So starving 7 million people to death in Yemen is called moderate islam. Got it. I notce the steps towards reforming include jailing anyone who dissents. More moderate islam. How much funding has MBS cut from extremist run madras schools and radical mosques that act as terrorist recruiting and training stations around the world? Are they reforming away from Fundamentalism also? ROFLOL.


They have a long way to go, but you have to be blind to discount these recent reforms:

- Allowing women to drive
- Allowing women to attend sporting events
- Allowing movie theaters
- Privatizing Aramco
- Negotiating with the Vatican to open up churches in Saudi Arabia
- Forging warmer ties to Israel

Yes its a very low bar, but that is par for the course for whack job theocracies like Iran and Saudi Arabia.
23   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 8, 12:23pm  

Trump shitting on Obama since 01/20/2017.
And all Obama can do is nit pick from the sidelines and act like he's still in charge from his Deep state command center just a mile from the White House.
To be so Chickenshit and have your legacy completely anialated by a man you dropped a mic and said would never be President. That's got to sting.
He might have to write another message to his Father. "Pa... dey done fucked muh leguhcee"
24   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 1:05pm  

bob2356 says
So starving 7 million people to death in Yemen is called moderate islam. Got it. I notce the steps towards reforming include jailing anyone who dissents. More moderate islam. How much funding has MBS cut from extremist run madras schools and radical mosques that act as terrorist recruiting and training stations around the world? Are they reforming away from Fundamentalism also? ROFLOL.


Total Bullshit. The Houthis are rabid Shi'a radicals, not much better than ISIS. There is no evidence of widespread starvation campaign, outside of PressTV and RT.

Just because CNN and MSNBC lies their ass off, doesn't mean Sputnik or the Daily Star of Lebanon is telling the truth.
25   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 1:08pm  

socal2 says
Yes its a very low bar, but that is par for the course for whack job theocracies like Iran and Saudi Arabia.


The whole reason Iran is in the shit is because the Shah moved too fast and too rough with the cultural modernization. The stuff MbS is doing already has widespread domestic support, esp. among the youth.

The Neoliberals fail because they want the Middle East to become San Francisco LGBTQ123ABC Liberals who moan Toxic Masculinity overnight. Just like they expect Islamist refugees to become Blue-haired Transgender Activists the moment they arrive in Stockholm.
26   Heraclitusstudent   2018 May 8, 1:18pm  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
. Ah, the good old "nothing can be done, let's take this laying down" argument.

What is your "not laying down" idea? Just putting sanctions? Worked well so far, right?
Or are you proposing some kind of military attack?
27   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 1:22pm  




Also:
Obama: "Iran is moderate, let's sign a deal."
Trump: "Iran is lying, they're still developing nukes. Goodbye Deal, Goobye!"
Iran: "DEATH TO AMERIKA! We will soon nuke THE GREAT SATAN!"
Obama: "I told you Iran was moderate."
28   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 1:24pm  

180 days left, Europe. Get your shit together, or that Nestle chocolate is going to be turned back at Newark.

Hershey's is better, anyway.
29   LeonDurham   2018 May 8, 1:36pm  

How could this possibly go wrong?
30   Strategist   2018 May 8, 1:38pm  

bob2356 says
So starving 7 million people to death in Yemen is called moderate islam. Got it.


Starving 7 million people to death IS moderate Islam.
31   Strategist   2018 May 8, 1:41pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Neither is keeping the deal. It was just a speedbump on the Iran's road to owning nukes.

A speed bump maybe the best you can hope for.


We need a dead end on Iran's road to owning nukes. Speed bumps won't work.
32   Strategist   2018 May 8, 1:46pm  

bob2356 says
I guess we will know when trump reveals his well thought out plan of where we go next that I'm sure he has laid out in detail with our allies. I mean no one would be stupid enough to make such a big move without a plan for going forward. Would they?


Trump has a plan. Severe sanctions on Iran until they cave in. If they start up their nuke program they will be sorry as hell.
Nukes in the hands of Islamic fanatics is not acceptable. Period.
33   Strategist   2018 May 8, 1:48pm  

Aphroman says

Is Islam suddenly compatible with our Western Democratic way of life, that prioritizes Liberal values like Liberty and Freedom? I must have missed the memo


You did not miss the memo. They are still dangerous Islamic fanatics, which is why they must be controlled until they are ready for democracy.
35   LeonDurham   2018 May 8, 2:10pm  

OK--so playing this forward:

US implements sanctions--Joe Q Public in Iran blames the US for their misery under sanctions since it was US that pulled out of deal and US that implemented sanctions
Iran immediately restarts nuclear program daring US to act.

Those two are neon light obvious. What is Trump's endgame strategy here? Invade Iran?
36   socal2   2018 May 8, 2:19pm  

LeonDurham says
What is Trump's endgame strategy here?


What was Obama's endgame?

We only saw Iran become more belligerent and expansionist into Syria and Lebanon after we signed the nuke deal.

The Iranian fuckers couldn't even stop their "Death to America" chants in 2016 when their boy Obama was still in power and recently gave the store away to Iran with the nuke deal.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iran-marks-revolution-death-america-chants-n516406
37   LeonDurham   2018 May 8, 2:25pm  

socal2 says

What was Obama's endgame?


Whether you agree with the rationale or not, clearly his endgame was buying time.

So, what is Trumps?
38   socal2   2018 May 8, 2:33pm  

LeonDurham says
Whether you agree with the rationale or not, clearly his endgame was buying time.


Ah - kicking the can down the road while allowing Iran to become dominant in the Region along with Russia? That is some great time buying right there!

LeonDurham says
So, what is Trumps?


Probably similar to what he just achieved with North Korea using a combination of credible threats and carrots and ultimately getting them to come to the negotiation table for talks.

I'm willing to bet that North Korea (being one of the biggest weapons and nuke proliferators in the world) can provide the US with some handy information on Iran's program. In fact, they may already be doing it based on the recent airstrikes on Iranian camps and weapon's depot in Syria.
39   socal2   2018 May 8, 2:37pm  

Whoa - what's this?

"Iran can restart uranium enrichment 'without any limitations': Rouhani"
https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/iran-can-restart-uranium-enrichment-without-any-limitations-rouhani-20180509-p4ze4m.html

I thought all of the Obama fanboys were telling us that the great thing about the Iran deal is that it would take months and years for Iran to begin uranium enrichment again?

Are you telling me this entire deal was based primarily on trusting Iran's willingness to not do things?
40   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 8, 2:57pm  

LeonDurham says

US implements sanctions--Joe Q Public in Iran blames the US for their misery under sanctions since it was US that pulled out of deal and US that implemented sanctions
Iran immediately restarts nuclear program daring US to act.


Problem is Iranian TV showed the pallets of cash from the apologizing President Frantz Fanon of the Great Satan unloaded by Cargo Plane, one after the other.

Few in Iran blames the USA, they blame the Mullahs. The Mullahs can't even make payments to their rural based militias because they spent it all in Syria, Yemen, Gaza, and Lebanon. People in Iran no longer buy the Mullah's attempts at distraction, and believe they are the obstacle to structural reform.

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