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It's an oil ,money deal! Carter Doctrine -That's our oil over there.

By HEYYOU following x   2018 May 9, 12:54pm 254 views   14 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


"Let me cut to the chase. Every single world leader knows Trump’s full of shit. Even more importantly, the citizens of their nations also know it. Everyone with a functioning brain understands that pulling out of the Iran deal has nothing to do with terrorism, nuclear bombs or any other fairytale propagated by U.S. neocons. This is simply about the existence of a non-U.S. client state in a key strategic region sitting on massive oil reserves. It’s about empire — global games of power and money fueled by a desperate attempt to hold on to a unipolar world where the U.S. bosses everyone around.

A global empire will keep pushing and pushing until something snaps. The leaders of empire become convinced of their invincibility right before the end, and the U.S. is no different."

" Given the rise of China economically and militarily,"

Thank you Communist loving Republicans & Democrats & I hope you pay dearly.

https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2018/05/08/trump-pulls-out-of-iran-deal-u-s-determined-to-become-a-rogue-state/
1   Feux Follets   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 2:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HEYYOU says
This is simply about the existence of a non-U.S. client state in a key strategic region sitting on massive oil reserves. It’s about empire — global games of power and money fueled by a desperate attempt to hold on to a unipolar world where the U.S. bosses everyone around.


Tell me it isn't so.
2   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 5:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HEYYOU says
This is simply about the existence of a non-U.S. client state in a key strategic region sitting on massive oil reserves. It’s about empire — global games of power and money fueled by a desperate attempt to hold on to a unipolar world where the U.S. bosses everyone around.


It doesn't matter because either way Iran will soon enough be a Chinese empire client state sitting on oil reserves.
I think they see the writing on the wall and this is about who gets to sell their oil for a worthy price before oil starts shrinking as a source of energy.
3   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 5:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
HEYYOU says
This is simply about the existence of a non-U.S. client state in a key strategic region sitting on massive oil reserves. It’s about empire — global games of power and money fueled by a desperate attempt to hold on to a unipolar world where the U.S. bosses everyone around.


Tell me it isn't so.


It isn't so.
4   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 5:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says
It isn't so.


But you would be wrong. Iran policy has been driven by being butt hurt about losing the shah and dick sucking the saudi's since the revolution. When Iran gets the pakistan pipeline extended to china the us is going to have a really tough time enforcing the new embargo, which china will simply ignore and tell trump to get stuffed.
5   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 9, 5:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Yeah, so what?

Your entire point is just about you and all the other America-haters having another excuse to have a cow over Trump.

Hate Trump!
Hate Trump!
Hate Trump!
6   Feux Follets   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 5:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Hate is such a strong ugly word....how about disgruntled ?

Doesn't that sound better ?
7   Feux Follets   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 5:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HEYYOU says
That's our oil over there.


Our oil is our oil and their oil is our oil. Don't tell me the history books are leaving out key facts again...stupid Common Core

Just like when you are married - your bills are your bills and your wife's bills are your bills.
8   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 6:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Strategist says
It isn't so.


But you would be wrong. Iran policy has been driven by being butt hurt about losing the shah and dick sucking the saudi's since the revolution. When Iran gets the pakistan pipeline extended to china the us is going to have a really tough time enforcing the new embargo, which china will simply ignore and tell trump to get stuffed.


You are side stepping the real issue which is nuclear. Iran has it's sympathizers for now, but the moment it starts up it's nuclear program, those sympathizers won't be very sympathetic anymore because everyone knows the only purpose for the nuclear program is to make nuclear bombs. Who in their right minds will believe it's for energy?
Iran is cornered, the noose will keep getting tighter, and there isn't much the Ayatollahs can do that they are not already doing.
Here are two guarantees from USA and Israel.
Step 1: Permanently end their nuclear program
Step 2: Permanently end the rule of the Ayatollahs.
9   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 6:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

There's a little black patch in the desert today...
That's my oil down there.
The price per barrel's more than yesterday...
That's my oil down there.

I have stood here before upon the Texas Plain...
10   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 May 9, 6:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HEYYOU says
It's an oil ,money deal! Carter Doctrine -That's our oil over there.


Now where have we heard that before? Oh yeah, now I remember.
1. Kuwait. When we saved their ass.
2. Saudi Arabia. When we saved their ass at the same time.
3. Iraq. When we pulled Saddam out of a rat hole.
4. Afghanistan. When they don't even have oil.

So........Where is all that free oil?
11   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 9, 6:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Doesn't that sound better ?

Most euphemistic bullshit is invented to do just that. It is still euphemistic bullshit trying to downplay the truth, tho.
12   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 9, 7:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

We don't want the mullahs out of Iran, actually. We now want The Sandbox and Persian Gulf to be a powder keg, in fact.

This is a big geopolitical change for us and the rest of the world. The kind you don't see except every 50 to 75 years. Brought about by the Shale Revolution.

We produce as much oil as SA and will soon produce as much as SA and Russia combined. So when the price of oil soars to $200+/barrel when the shooting starts between a nuclear Iran and an soon-to-be nuclear SA, we benefit the most from that.

We just slap export controls on oil to keep domestic prices around $70/barrel and sell what is left to the Most Desperate Highest Bidder on the world stage. No more Most Favored Nation status...just Most Desperate Highest Bidder status.

Our domestic industries would have a huge energy cost competitive advantage under this scenario, too. Because of cheap natural gas and lower transportation fuel costs. Some American goods will be cheaper on the export markets than the goods of many other nations with sky high energy costs or even energy shortages no matter what the price.

My reference to 'Our' includes Canada and Mexico, btw. A bunch of natural gas pipelines from the US to northern Mexico are either already online or will soon be. Brown outs in Mexico will soon be a thing of the past and Mexican manufacturing is about to get a much needed boost from that as well.

All those Europhiles reading this better start worrying. Under that scenario Europe will be experiencing a lot of hardship. Most of Asia will be plain screwed.

Welcome to America First! sans any lubricant, bitches!

At least the rest of the world had better hope that is how we will play that deck of cards. Because in reality favorites will probably be played...selling oil to Japan instead of China, for example.
13   Feux Follets   ignore (1)   2018 May 10, 6:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

WarrenTheApe says
This is a big geopolitical change for us and the rest of the world. The kind you don't see except every 50 to 75 years. Brought about by the Shale Revolution.


Here's another big change brought about by the "Shale Revolution" that Joe Six Pack and 99.99% of the Trumpette cheerleaders didn't bother to account for. Going to guess not one of the mini-me stable geniuses here on the forum took time to realize you have to refine that oil into something otherwise it is pretty useless.

U.S. Shale’s Refining Crisis

U.S. shale is growing so quickly that it is presenting new challenges for refiners. The quality and type of the oil mix, particularly in the U.S., is changing because of the gusher of oil coming from West Texas.

For years prior to the shale revolution, refiners made large investments into downstream assets that were equipped to handle medium and heavier types of oil. A lot of expected supply growth was coming from Canada’s oil sands, a type of oil that is particularly heavy. Integrated oil companies and refiners poured money into refineries, such as those along the Gulf Coast, equipped to handle heavier varieties.

But oil coming from U.S. shale basins, especially the Permian, is light and sweet. That is creating somewhat of a mismatch between available supplies and downstream capacity.

Up until recently, U.S. refiners absorbed all of the light oil coming out of the shale patch. They processed and exported refined products like gasoline even though some of the equipment used to process heavier oil went underutilized. While not a perfect match between quality/type and refining capacity, the situation seemed to work out just fine.

Going forward is trickier now that refiners are stretched in terms of the amount of light oil they can process. The IEA sees another 3.3 million barrels per day of light oil coming out of U.S. shale over the next few years. Much of that oil will need to be exported since refiners cannot absorb it all. And because demand is growing so much in Asia, particularly for chemicals, much of that U.S. oil will likely be shipped there.

But it won’t necessarily be smooth sailing; there could still be some hiccups for the refining complex. Despite the IEA’s hour-glass argument, heavier oils have plunged in Venezuela and eroded in Mexico as well. Canada can’t get its heavy oil out of the country because the pipeline system is maxed out.

"Our thesis is that the U.S. refining system is close to being maxed-out on the amount of shale oil it can process," wrote Morgan Stanley equity analysts in April. The investment bank argues that outside of the U.S., demand for light oil is not as high as everyone might think and could actually be capped at about 6 mb/d.

While the IEA says that Asia’s demand for petrochemicals might mean that U.S. exports to Asia rise, Morgan Stanley argues that much of the world’s demand growth will coming in the form of diesel and jet fuel, products that light shale oil isn’t equipped to make.

The upshot is that if shale drillers are going to find a home for all of the oil that they are producing, they will have to increasingly offer discounts in order to gain market share.

More: https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Shales-Refining-Crisis.html

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14   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 10, 2:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
The upshot is that if shale drillers are going to find a home for all of the oil that they are producing, they will have to increasingly offer discounts in order to gain market share.

Yeah, so?

And the Keystone Pipeline is the bring that heavier oil down to mix with the light, never to 'export Canadian oil' anyway. Just as that article says but you somehow don't seem to understand.

Please tell us then...WHY did the Saudis start sending their container ships to Louisiana to PICK UP SHALE OIL and then turn around and ship it to China, who they re-sold it to? I mean, according to your bullshit article Asians don't want that stuff!

In reality, shale oil is cheaper than any other type of oil now. By 2020, it will be so cheap they will be able to make a profit at $20/barrel. That makes is cheap enough to use in jet and diesel despite any other problems involved.

Seems to me your fake news article is just that. Fake news bullshit. The kind that puts the suffix '-tard' in the world 'Libtard'.




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