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Even CNN Says Dems Blue Wave Is Bullshit

By WarrenTheApe following x   2018 May 9, 6:41pm 824 views   65 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Oh no! First, Kanye, then Millennials and now it seems the Dems have 'lost' CNN?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/politics/cnn-poll-generic-ballot-narrows/index.html

This HAS to be fake news! Gotta be!

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1   rocketjoe79   ignore (0)   2018 May 9, 9:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

NPR is all over this "Blue Wave" as if it's real.
2   WarrenTheApe   ignore (0)   2018 May 9, 9:44pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

rocketjoe79 says
NPR is all over this "Blue Wave" as if it's real.

Of course they are. The Narrative Shall Not Be Questioned.

(Particularly if you are black. Democrats say you are not allowed to think for yourselves if you are black, apparently)
3   rootvg   ignore (0)   2018 May 9, 10:03pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Yet another example of lefties in the media telling supporters what they want to hear in exchange for financial support.

If what happened in Ohio means anything at all, the Senate may very well be 58-60 Republicans in January. That would be historic.

The DNC is a mess. Obama and his people destroyed it.
4   cmdrdataleak   ignore (0)   2018 May 10, 8:20am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I'm not sure if the Obama Team was directly responsible for what happened to the DNC or not. What I am fairly certain of is that the DNC has neglected, and in some cases shunned, the Classical Liberals who at one point constituted the bulk of its membership. To replace this constituency, they seem to be pushing an identity-politics-and-victimhood grievance culture as a platform. I believe this is not only intellectually cynical, as it alienates most rational thinkers in their ranks, but also doomed for failure statistically, as there really aren't the numbers in the adherents to this culture to form a sizeable bloc. This was evident in the low voter turnout during the 2016 election.

Disappointingly, most apparatchiks of the DNC have not realized this failure, or are not talking about it. Worse, they're doubling down on the original victimhood narrative with more appeal-to-identity fallacies like the notion that Trump is the president because voters are sexist or racist.

No, Trump is president because the DNC's cynical identity politics platform failed to inspire their base. Classical Liberals did not show up to vote. Correspondingly, Classical Conservatives did not show up, either, for the RNC's "populist" candidate. Perhaps both parties need to soul search about who their base really is and would probably be advised to offer a platform with a little more intellectual meat.
5   HEYYOU   ignore (13)   2018 May 10, 9:56am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Why post a thread about fake media?
CNN is fake news, Trump said so. I'll back up Trump.
If they were truthful,they would state FACT NEWS!

"Donald Trump is 5 time draft dodging,lying,adulterer!"
6   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 May 10, 10:56am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I think the attempted coup/cover-up of Hilalry crimes is starting to have an effect.
7   Hassan_Rouhani   ignore (2)   2018 May 10, 11:01am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

But it's a good bullshit. The more Dems are reassured that their victory is at hand the less of them will come out to vote (early and often).
10   Booger   ignore (0)   2018 May 13, 6:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Didn't more Californians vote for Trump than elected Governor Jerry Brown?
11   WarrenTheApe   ignore (0)   2018 May 13, 6:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
Didn't more Californians vote for Trump than elected Governor Jerry Brown?

Yeah, but Brown was up for re-election in state that doesn't have any real opposition party.
12   mell   ignore (1)   2018 May 13, 7:58pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

After predicting Trump to be Republican candidate with shot at presidency within my mostly leftist circle, first drawing laughter, then fury (albeit low-T), I am leaning out now predicting that barring any unforeseen steep recession or black swan, the Dems will lose bigly in the midterms and Trump will get reelected by a yuge margin. Just taking an objective look, let's see how things go in the next months - so far no change on the horizon.
13   WarrenTheApe   ignore (0)   2018 May 13, 8:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
After predicting Trump to be Republican candidate with shot at presidency within my mostly leftist circle, first drawing laughter, then fury (albeit low-T), I am leaning out now predicting that barring any unforeseen steep recession or black swan, the Dems will lose bigly in the midterms and Trump will get reelected by a yuge margin. Just taking an objective look, let's see how things go in the next months - so far no change on the horizon.

My prediction so far: They probably will gain some seats in the House but not enough to take over. They won't win much in the Senate, let alone become the majority there either.

There is a POSSIBILITY that they can also lose big time, too. I am not just talking congressional midterms but down the entire ticket. This would happen because their a) base usually do not come out and vote in midterms like they do during presidential elections, b) they have lost the Millennials and c) the Kanye Effect (aka the Sharecropper Rebellion down on the Democrat Plantation). That latter, if large enough, could be thoroughly devastating. They could lose entire states, like Connecticut.
14   HEYYOU   ignore (13)   2018 May 13, 8:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Republicans & Democrats in the U.S. Govt., you will be anally assaulted.
15   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 6:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HEYYOU says
Republicans & Democrats in the U.S. Govt., you will be anally assaulted.


Sound like you would be an ardent Trump supporter. Although Trump had to annex the Republican party to get his way, he is getting done items despite resistance from both Republicans and Democrats, such as pro-US manufacturing trade deals and the Jerusalem embassy. Trump is also fighting both major parties with his efforts to truly stop illegal immigration. Also, neither Dems or Repubs would have removed the deductability of State taxes on Federal returns.
16   Aphroman   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 10:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

HeadSet says
HEYYOU says
Republicans & Democrats in the U.S. Govt., you will be anally assaulted.


Sound like you would be an ardent Trump supporter. Although Trump had to annex the Republican party to get his way, he is getting done items despite resistance from both Republicans and Democrats, such as pro-US manufacturing trade deals and the Jerusalem embassy. Trump is also fighting both major parties with his efforts to truly stop illegal immigration. Also, neither Dems or Repubs would have removed the deductability of State taxes on Federal returns.


It’s strange how the Republican Party still looks exactly the same post Trump as it did before Trump
17   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 10:41am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The red wave is going to be massive

Watch and learn.
18   edvard   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 10:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

Republicans and Trump supporters are utterly clueless as to the sheer volume of outright rage the majority of the rest of the country feels at this moment. Its very much less to do about party and everything to do with ending the non-stop three ring circus that this admin has made along with the never ending, unfolding scandals Trump and his admin constantly boil to the surface.

Let's just put it this way: So in 2010 the GOP took over the house mainly over one single issue: Obamacare. So when you see just how large of a swing that caused then just imagine whats likely to happen with 14 months of anger over far, FAR worse things that Trump and co have done to the country.

Predictions are worthless. I just know that every person I know whom didn't vote for Trump are outright incensed and cannot wait to go to the ballot box to get the ball rolling in the other direction.

And lastly? Let's not ignore the elephant in the room: Trump is still under numerous investigations over some more than shady shit and given the complexity, the number of key players, the unfolding revelations and so on.... it ain't over yet.
19   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 10:56am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
Predictions are worthless. I just know that every person I know whom didn't vote for Trump are outright incensed and cannot wait to go to the ballot box to get the ball rolling in the other direction.


If we are discussing anecdotal evidence, several of the dudes I talk to when I pick my kids up at school on Fridays (all who voted for Hillary) are reluctantly admitting that Trump is getting some good things done when I spoke to them last week. They even reluctantly admitted that the whole "Russian Collusion" thing is BS and can't be bothered at all about the porn star stuff.

The pro-Trump dudes I know who supported him early in the primaries are absolutely ecstatic and couldn't be happier with Trump. They are more vocal than ever.

Then you got guys like me who hated Trump in the primaries, was convinced he couldn't win the general and hand-wrote Egg McMuffin's name in the California ballot - and I am pleased as punch at the Conservative achievements that Trump and Congress has completed in the last 1.5 years and will definitely vote for Trump if he runs again.

So I am not seeing much erosion of Trump voters and maybe even some growth in my little neck of the woods in North San Diego County.
20   edvard   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 11:09am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

No erosion in support by trump supporters is of no surprise: Trump could drive up and take a dump in their front yards- even an especially post-super burrito dump- and they would probably eagerly collect it, place it on a pedestal and show it to all their friends. No- I gave up long ago on Trump supporters since they are more or less brainwashed and totally devoted, like members of a cult of personality to Trump.

The fact remains that Trump has had the lowest approval rating of any president during their first term in US history. That is an astonishing metric. That level of support has sat at the 40% mark throughout the first 14 months so far. That support remains only from his unchanging supporters. The takeaway? There are more of us than them. We have far more motivated reasons to vote than his supporters do: That the comments from his supporters here seem to be complacent and dismissive is clear evidence that they are way too comfortable and many will probably stay home while the rest us dont.
21   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 11:15am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
The fact remains that Trump has had the lowest approval rating of any president during their first term in US history.


Huh?

Trump is right there in line with Obama in his first term. Trump is even higher in some polls like Rasmussen.
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

This is pretty remarkable considering how hostile the media has been to Trump and all the non-stop Russian collusion and porn star bullshit.
22   mell   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 11:21am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
No erosion in support by trump supporters is of no surprise: Trump could drive up and take a dump in their front yards- even an especially post-super burrito dump- and they would probably eagerly collect it, place it on a pedestal and show it to all their friends. No- I gave up long ago on Trump supporters since they are more or less brainwashed and totally devoted, like members of a cult of personality to Trump.


This is simply false. Look objectively at the economy and recent international developments and tell me the country isn't better off than before Trump took office. You are underestimating Americans if you think they can't see this.
23   edvard   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 11:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote        

"This is simply false. Look objectively at the economy and recent international developments and tell me the country isn't better off than before Trump took office. You are underestimating Americans if you think they can't see this."

You are simply trying to make up some sort of projected hyperbole. Pretty much anyone with brains knows the economy was already doing like gangbusters before Trump ever took office. But what people DO remember is that Trump has spent his entire presidency so far shitting the bed royally. At this point there is nothing Trump can do to redeem himself: He is more or less inexcusable to the 60% of those in the country who disapprove of him.
24   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 12:01pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
But what people DO remember is that Trump has spent his entire presidency so far shitting the bed royally. At this point there is nothing Trump can do to redeem himself


Your analysis is objectively wrong. Get out of your echo chamber, shut off CNN. edvard says
I just know that every person I know whom didn't vote for Trump are outright incensed and cannot wait to go to the ballot box to get the ball rolling in the other direction.


Wrong again. I didn't vote for Trump, but probably will in 2020. From an independant, classic liberal perspective he's by far the best POTUS of our lifetime.

The people w TDS are indeed irrelevant and will always hate Trump or anyone CNN tells them to hate. It is a serious error in judgement to use those fools as proxy for the American people.
25   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 12:06pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
Pretty much anyone with brains knows the economy was already doing like gangbusters before Trump ever took office.


Every metric is better under Trump. Do you deny this? Or you simply think the economy is irrelevant?

Guarantee you most Americans disagree.
26   edvard   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 12:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

"Your analysis is objectively wrong. Get out of your echo chamber, shut off CNN."

My analysis is of course absolutely spot-on and hate to burst yer' bubble but I don't watch network news.

"Wrong again. I didn't vote for Trump, but probably will in 2020. From an independant, classic liberal perspective he's by far the best POTUS of our lifetime. "

Saying that you're an independent doesn't make me automatically think you're special. If you plan on voting for Trump then you're not exactly a very intelligent person.

"The people w TDS are indeed irrelevant and will always hate Trump or anyone CNN tells them to hate. "

Remember- about 60% of the country disapproves of Trump and its over the crap he has done: whether it was in throwing support behind that nasty molester down in Alabama, choosing a white supremacist to be a part of his cabinet ( Bannon ), getting us into a trade war, cheating on his wives, lying constantly, going after the free press and raging like a little baby on twitter, paying off porn stars and using a shady lawyer under investigation for bribery and so on these all ad up to the fact that Trump is pretty much a shitty president whom has made the country look weak and pathetic.

"Every metric is better under. Do you deny this? Or you simply think the economy is irrelevant?"

Trump has had jack shit to do with the economy. The economy was already doing well before he became president. That people still think the president has anything to do with it is laughable. On the same token most economic indicators shows a correction/recession within the next year, so when that happens you'd better bet that what few Americans somehow believe the good economy is all trump will turn on him in a split-second.
27   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 12:17pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Aphroman says
It’s strange how the Republican Party still looks exactly the same post Trump as it did before Trump


CNN will call them fascists despite reality.

Not only have a slew of swaml creatures annpunced returement, but Trump's train is totally different than anything we've ever seen. He combines some traditionally D positions (like the wall, American workers first policies) and some traditionally R positions (like lower taxes) w some traditionally libertarian positions (like ending wars).

D = R =/ Trump . Sorry D and R are identical, but Trump is altogether different.
28   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 12:17pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
Trump has had jack shit to do with the economy. The economy was already doing well before he became president. That people still think the president has anything to do with it is laughable.


Since you say the President (including Obama) has no impact on the great economy, you must be crediting the Republican Congress - right? The Republicans have been in the majority at the Federal level for nearly 4 years..........along with all those Republicans who dominate the State Legislatures and Governorships.

Also, Obama had no problem constantly blaming the bad economy and bad foreign policy that occurred on his watch on his predecessor Bush.
29   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 12:20pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

socal2 says
Since you say the President (including Obama) has no impact on the great economy, you must be crediting the Republican Congress - right?


He can't defend his statements. Just more "Trump bad" platitudes.

I wonder if Edward will admit he's wrong after the blue wave doesn't come.
30   drB6   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 12:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
some traditionally libertarian positions (like ending wars)

Not sure about this
31   edvard   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 3:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

"Since you say the President (including Obama) has no impact on the great economy, you must be crediting the Republican Congress - right? The Republicans have been in the majority at the Federal level for nearly 4 years..........along with all those Republicans who dominate the State Legislatures and Governorships.
Also, Obama had no problem constantly blaming the bad economy and bad foreign policy that occurred on his watch on his predecessor Bush."

If the GOP had their way during the last recession the country would likely still be in recession as we speak. I distinctly recall the last recession: I and many others lost our jobs. The DOW, Nasdaq, and other major global trading markets were in free fall. Starting first with Bush ( which really irritated his base ) and then Obama started enacting emergency measures to prop up the economy. These measures were unpopular but necessary. Had the GOP had their way GM and Chrysler would've failed leading to millions of permanently unemployed workers. Had the GOP had their chance the huge mortgage and banking companies whom went bankrupt would've also been allowed to topple leading to an injection of massive quantities of debt to the economic system. Had the GOP had their way millions of Americans would've been thrown out of their homes.

The fact is that few Americans realize just how close we came to going into a depression aka- 1930's style. That's most certainly where we would've headed had the GOP been in power and that's a fact.

What worries me is that all indications show a recession within the next year. While now is smooth sailing and all we're dealing with are non-stop scandals in the white house, come a recession it will be very clear just how utterly clueless and ill-prepared this admin will be. It will be ugly. The good though is that if you want John Q. Redneck to get scared and turn on the current president in power, get into a recession. If we are in recession like many say we will next year you can bet yer' boots those trump supporters will snap out of it and come back to reality.... real fast...
32   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 3:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
If the GOP had their way


Do you communicate w/o platitudes?

The neo-cons are terrible. Way to step out on a limb there. The Bush family, both Clintons, Obama and McCain are all neo-cons. All have the same agenda and play for the same team.

Trump isn't a neocon. Notice how all the neo-cons circled the wagons and attacked the outsider. It's people like George W and the Clintons who want Trump to fail. CNN has lost every shred of credibility. The American people are smarter than that.
33   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 6:33pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

edvard says
Remember- about 60% of the country disapproves of Trump and its over the crap he has done: whether it was in throwing support behind that nasty molester down in Alabama, choosing a white supremacist to be a part of his cabinet ( Bannon ), getting us into a trade war, cheating on his wives, lying constantly, going after the free press


Let’s take this word vomit point by point.
1) Trump wanted the other Republican, but conceded (grudgingly) to support Moore because he needed help in the senate. The scandal came out at the 23rd hour (nice timing by Democrats btw).
2)Bannon is not and has never been a white supremacist. Too much CNN and TDS!
3)We NEEDED a damn trade war to negotiate better trade deals! MAGA BITCHES!!!
4)Clinton got us used to Presidents who cheat on their wives so that’s a total “meh.”
5)depends on what the meaning of is is.
6)the “free” press is owned outright by six globalists who hate Trump and want to tear him down. They require all coverage of the POTUS to be negative or negative adjacent. Who would put up with that without an objection? Ridiculous!

I do hope you get over your TDS. Your case seems very advanced.
34   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 6:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Between North Korea and Israel, the Hard Left is flailing desperately in negativity these past few days.
35   edvard   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 7:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

"Trump isn't a neocon."

You are right. He isn't a NeoCon. He's worse then that. He's simply a slick New York snake oil salesman who has managed to cheat, lie and bullshit his way through life and miraculously gets away with it. And he's good at it too because clearly you guys are hooked.
"I do hope you get over your TDS. Your case seems very advanced."

Seems like you have a basic cognitive ability. Yes- Whenever you can't present a counterpoint, bring up the damned Clintons.
Sorry but Bill Clinton was president 20 years ago.

The rest of your response was another yawn-inspiring diatribe of typical conservative wingnut tinfoil fodder...
36   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 7:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The White Minority Illusion - Why the Democrats are becoming the Anti-White Party.

Now, as critics have pointed out, it's most likely misleading even to suggest that these ethnic categories will remain stable over the coming decades, given rising rates of intermarriage among the members of each group. But even if we assume for the sake of analysis that the categories remain intact, it's important to recognize that "white" is going to remain the plurality group for a very long time to come. In 2045, when the shift to "minority white" country is supposed to happen, whites will be 49.8 percent of the population, with Hispanics, at 24.6 percent, the next largest group at roughly half the size.

That's not the portrait of a country in which demographics are going to deliver liberals an automatic and permanent victory. It's the portrait of a country in which politics will continue as it always has, with different parties and politicians jostling for the support of a range of different groups.

Unless, that is, liberals can convince the non-white members of their current electoral coalition to begin thinking of themselves, first and foremost, as "people of color" united by their antipathy to, and in their oppression by, white America. If racism is defined, in part, by the tendency of whites to view everyone but themselves as "not white," then this would be a form of counter-racism in which non-whites positively affirm as a politically potent identity what was once treated as a form of stigma.

The doubling down on identity politics among liberals since Donald Trump's election follows from something like this ambition to unify non-whites against the Republican Party and in favor of the Democrats. (At the same time, the left's growing emphasis on intersectionality, which sows division instead of unity by highlighting the distinctive, irreducible grievances suffered by the members of ever-narrower demographic sub-categories, adds a heavy dose of self-contradiction to the project.)

It would appear that the "emerging Democratic majority" requires anti-white identity politics as its midwife.


That would be inadvisable in civic terms even if demographic trends over the next half century favored non-whites more convincingly than they do. As it is, liberals risk actively antagonizing (and hence galvanizing against them) what will remain for some significant time to come the single-largest demographic group in the United States.

https://theweek.com/articles/772590/white-minority-illusion
37   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 7:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
In 2045, when the shift to "minority white" country is supposed to happen, whites will be 49.8 percent of the population, with Hispanics, at 24.6 percent, the next largest group at roughly half the size.


...dems will still be pushing the racism boogeyman.
38   edvard   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 8:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

"In 2045, when the shift to "minority white" country is supposed to happen, whites will be 49.8 percent of the population, with Hispanics, at 24.6 percent, the next largest group at roughly half the size.
...dems will still be pushing the racism boogeyman."

Note that Trump and the GOP is only popular with middle aged white Americans. The rest of the country dislikes the GOP. Hence why the GOP is on borrowed time and if they continue going down the path of using Nixon's Southern Strategy they will fade into the dustbin of history.
39   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 15, 8:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Learn to use the quote button.

edvard says
ence why the GOP is on borrowed time


The GOP of ten years ago is already gone. Trump is, and will continue, an enormous surge w minorities.
40   Aphroman   ignore (2)   2018 May 15, 8:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
Learn to use the quote button.

edvard says
ence why the GOP is on borrowed time


The GOP of ten years ago is already gone. Trump is, and will continue, an enormous surge w minorities.


Lol thanks i needed a laugh

Too funny

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