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1   RWSGFY   2018 May 12, 8:08pm  

Yes, please!
2   bob2356   2018 May 12, 8:38pm  

lostand confused says
Iranian regime threatens to reveal western politicians who took bribes to sign Iranian deal if US is not pressured to come back to the table.


You guys really need to get your story straight. Last week Iranians were liars who should never gotten a deal. Now they are unimpeachable witnesses. Which one is it?. Do you believe Iran or not? or is one of those moral flexibility things. They are truthful when they say what you want to hear and liars when they don't.
3   RWSGFY   2018 May 12, 8:40pm  

bob2356 says
Now they are unimpeachable witnesses.


Strawman: nobody said they were "impeachabe witnesses". We'll look at whatever evidence they produce and then decide.
4   lostand confused   2018 May 12, 9:25pm  

bob2356 says
You guys really need to get your story straight. Last week Iranians were liars who should never gotten a deal. Now they are unimpeachable witnesses. Which one is it?. Do you believe Iran or not? or is one of those moral flexibility things. They are truthful when they say what you want to hear and liars when they don't.


LOLz. So iran is pretty much revealing they got the deal because they bribed western politicians. Which in most normal folks view will tell you it was a lousy deal and wonderful that trump cancelled yet-oh well.
5   Shaman   2018 May 12, 11:00pm  

They might be ruled by religious zealot dictators, but they aren’t stupid! They outsmarted our first Affirmative Action President quite easily. What a legacy!
6   Strategist   2018 May 12, 11:20pm  

bob2356 says
lostand confused says
Iranian regime threatens to reveal western politicians who took bribes to sign Iranian deal if US is not pressured to come back to the table.


You guys really need to get your story straight. Last week Iranians were liars who should never gotten a deal. Now they are unimpeachable witnesses. Which one is it?. Do you believe Iran or not? or is one of those moral flexibility things. They are truthful when they say what you want to hear and liars when they don't.


They lie when the lie benefits them, they tell the truth when the truth benefits them. Fact is, they can never be trusted.
Trump wants to renegotiate. I would just bomb their nukes to rubble and be done with it once and for all.
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 12, 11:21pm  

WarrenTheApe says
Oh, and...um..so the Iranians are trustworthy and not cheating on the 'deal' so you can bash Trump or they are not when you want to spin things like you are now?


This could also be viewed as: Desperately trying to get into Trump's good graces because they know it's the US that is the final Arbiter.

Trump wasn't bullshiting when he said 180 days before ANYBODY who trades with Iran gets cut off from the world's largest, most lucrative market worth at least a few hundred billion to Europe.
8   Strategist   2018 May 12, 11:22pm  

lostand confused says
LOLz. So iran is pretty much revealing they got the deal because they bribed western politicians. Which in most normal folks view will tell you it was a lousy deal and wonderful that trump cancelled yet-oh well.


Such a silly threat by Iran. We want to know who took the bribes.
9   bob2356   2018 May 13, 3:11am  

WarrenTheApe says

Oh, and...um..so the Iranians are trustworthy and not cheating on the 'deal' so you can bash Trump or they are not when you want to spin things like you are now?


I never said Iranians aren't cheating or anything of the sort. All the countries monitoring the deal say they aren't cheating including trumps own departments not me. Try re reading what I wrote. It was all pretty simple sentences.

So how is asking how the very same people who considered Iranians liars literally last week are so willing to trust them now become bashing trump or spinning anything? Let's see 2+2= negative pi, yep right wingnut "logic" at work again. It's a very simple question actually that has led to a lot of interesting semantical gymnastics but no answers beyond because I say so.

. Strategist says

They lie when the lie benefits them, they tell the truth when the truth benefits them. Fact is, they can never be trusted.


and this differs from every other government on earth including the US how? It appears we are back to what you want to hear is truth and what you don't want to hear isn't it.
10   Strategist   2018 May 13, 9:02am  

bob2356 says
WarrenTheApe says

Oh, and...um..so the Iranians are trustworthy and not cheating on the 'deal' so you can bash Trump or they are not when you want to spin things like you are now?


I never said Iranians aren't cheating or anything of the sort. All the countries monitoring the deal say they aren't cheating including trumps own departments not me.

They don't even need to cheat. The rotten nuclear deal paves the way for them to eventually acquire nukes with ease.

bob2356 says
. Strategist says

They lie when the lie benefits them, they tell the truth when the truth benefits them. Fact is, they can never be trusted.


and this differs from every other government on earth including the US how?

There are lies, and there are lies.The Iranians are lying to get nukes. We can't have that. Not worth the risk.
11   bob2356   2018 May 13, 11:22am  

Strategist says
They don't even need to cheat. The rotten nuclear deal paves the way for them to eventually acquire nukes with ease.


Then why not modify the deal in place before eventually comes? What happened to the art of the deal? It's a hell of a lot easier to modify a deal than start from scratch, especially after pissing everyone involved off. I don't understand why everyone thinks trump was some kind of deal master. He bankrupted some of the best commercial real estate in NY multiple times along with all of his casinos. That's a great deal, if you plan on screwing all your investors, have lot's of daddy's money to dip into, and lots of handouts from the government. For anyone else it would be a disaster. He made his money as a huckster branding his name, not as a deal maker.
12   RWSGFY   2018 May 13, 11:27am  

bob2356 says
Then why not modify the deal in place


Because the other side refuses, duh.
13   just_passing_through   2018 May 13, 11:31am  

Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb IRAN!
14   Ceffer   2018 May 13, 12:02pm  

So. That just confirms that the West has the best politicians that money can buy.
15   Strategist   2018 May 13, 12:20pm  

Hassan_Rouhani says
bob2356 says
Then why not modify the deal in place


Because the other side refuses, duh.


Trump wants to renegotiate the deal. Iran flatly refuses because that would eliminate their chances of ever making the bomb.
Next step.....Trump will squeeze them economically, military wise, and socially by encouraging an overthrow of the regime. If the Mullahs revert to enriching uranium, they will be presented with tomahawks.
They are fucked. he he he.
16   Booger   2018 May 13, 6:48pm  

Liberal response when this happens:
17   Y   2018 May 13, 6:54pm  

Leaving the deal is the process of modifying the deal, part of the art of the deal.
In the end there will be a modified deal.
17D ch............well, u know...

bob2356 says
Then why not modify the deal in place before eventually comes? What happened to the art of the deal?
18   bob2356   2018 May 14, 3:57am  

Hassan_Rouhani says
bob2356 says
Then why not modify the deal in place


Because the other side refuses, duh


Right got it. Trump put together all of his awesome deal making prowess (ROFLOL) along with his world renowned diplomatic skills (pissing my pants laughing) to gather up all of the signatories and had extensive negotiations with Iran. Damn I missed that. Fucking MSM suppressing the good trump news again.

BlueSardine says
Leaving the deal is the process of modifying the deal, part of the art of the deal.
In the end there will be a modified deal.


Like all the trump investors, or trump suppliers, or trump U students left holding the bag after trump fucked them over? That kind of deal?

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