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By anotheraccount following x   2018 May 14, 5:24pm 777 views   51 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Please try to defend Trump's action here.

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1   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 May 14, 5:36pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Why the fuck would anyone buy a phone made by a Chinese company???
2   Hassan_Rouhani   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 5:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anotheraccount says
Please try to defend Trump's action here.


Whad did he do now?
3   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 6:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
Why the fuck would anyone buy a phone made by a Chinese company???


Checked the country of origin on phone products now a days ?

Same for components in just about everything ?

Not to mention a certain model Buick SUV !

anotheraccount says
Please try to defend Trump's action here.


Demonstrating the art of the deal ?

Doing what he knows he better do to prevent an oh shit moment in a certain portion of the stock market ? (The one he only owns when it goes up, not down)

Somewhere someone well connected was about to lose their ass or ZTE gets back in business so Potus can have some photo ops with Kim in a few weeks.

Follow the money trail - it may take some time but it will be there.

Speaking of Kim and the Nuke test site, why are they having a ceremony to celebrate dismantling what they have already destroyed ?
4   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 7:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Trump Orders Help For Chinese Phone-Maker After China Approves Money For Trump Project....

A mere 72 hours after the Chinese government agreed to put a half-billion dollars into an Indonesian project that will personally enrich Donald Trump, the president ordered a bailout for a Chinese-government-owned cellphone maker.

“President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast,” Trump announced on Twitter Sunday morning. “Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”

Trump did not mention in that tweet or its follow-ups that on Thursday, the developer of a theme park resort outside of Jakarta had signed a deal to receive as much as $500 million in Chinese government loans, as well as another $500 million from Chinese banks. Trump’s family business, the Trump Organization, has a deal to license the Trump name to the resort, which includes a golf course and hotels.

Trump, despite his promises to do so during the campaign, has not divested himself of his businesses, and continues to profit from them.

“You do a good deal for him, he does a good deal for you. Quid pro quo,” said Richard Painter, the White House ethics lawyer for former President George W. Bush and now a Democratic candidate for Senate in Minnesota.

Trump followed up late Monday afternoon with a new tweet on the issue: “ZTE, the large Chinese phone company, buys a big percentage of individual parts from U.S. companies. This is also reflective of the larger trade deal we are negotiating with China and my personal relationship with President Xi.”

The new statement, however, still did not address the question of the Indonesian resort and the Trump Organization’s coming profit thanks to Chinese investment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-orders-help-chinese-phone-215814298.html

The Winning, The Swamp Draining, The Ethics, The MAGA - when will it ever end ?
5   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 7:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anotheraccount says
Please try to defend Trump's action here.


Nothing to defend - just like I told you - wait for the money trail.

Somehow someway though this will get twisted into MAGA that benefits the country, improves national security while improving the Trump organization bottom line in the process.

There's no deal like a Trump deal.

Would you buy a used car from him ?
6   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 9:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anotheraccount says
Please try to defend Trump's action here.


You can neither defend nor indict Trump given the little we know.

This type of shit should be reviewed in every possible way to make sure no quid pro quo occurs.

Where were you when wikileaks revealed HRC's dozens of conflicts of interests? In HRC's situation, we have plenty of evidence to suggest both wrongdoing and an active cover up. With Trump we have speculation. Big difference.

Anyone pissed about Trump but totes cool w HRC = hypocrite.
7   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 May 14, 9:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Americas agriculture does come first. He's working out a deal... something Democrats will never understand. Because the only thing Democrats understand is "give me, give me".
8   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 14, 9:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Somewhere someone well connected was about to lose their ass or ZTE gets back in business so Potus can have some photo ops with Kim in a few weeks.


Probably something close to this. I think he owed his good buddy Xi a small win (quid pro Kim), and it’s not like we are making phones in America. Why disrupt the market?
9   anotheraccount   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 1:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
Where were you when wikileaks revealed HRC's dozens of conflicts of interests


Here. I never supported Hillary, why bring her into this? This is about Trump now.
10   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 May 15, 1:35am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

If TRUMPLIGULA! is not FREE! to trade favors to huns to enrich himself and destroy AMERICA!n industry, FREE!dom has no meaning.
11   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 3:05am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
anotheraccount says
Please try to defend Trump's action here.


You can neither defend nor indict Trump given the little we know.


Well that's new. Does that mean in the future we will be hearing the same trump syncopates say you can't defend or indict Obama/hillary/bernie/whoever given the little we know? ROFLOL.
12   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 3:06am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anotheraccount says
Here. I never supported Hillary, why bring her into this? This is about Trump now.


Anything that reflects badly on trump requires bringing up hillary.
13   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 3:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Trump to Europe - If your companies even think about dealing with Iran "we will slam you".
Trump to ZTE who got convicted of dealing with Iran AND NK - no sweat I'll give you a bye.

Trump tweet “President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost,” Gee when trump promised to save jobs I thought he meant american jobs. My bad.


Lido City development in Jakarta? Billion dollars Chinese funded? Trump-branded hotels, residences and a golf course. Not a word from two scoops or usual cast of trumpets?
14   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 5:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Anything that reflects badly on trump requires bringing up hillary.


Benghazi...
15   Aphroman   ignore (4)   2018 May 15, 5:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Trump is a bigtime Nationalist and he cares about us, that’s why he must save the jobs in China, but Hillary is going to prison, dear Lord, Amen!
16   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 5:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Aphroman says
that’s why he must save the jobs in China


Especially those jobs and companies that produce Trump branded merchandise.
17   Booger   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 5:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Checked the country of origin on phone products now a days ?


My phone is made in Taiwan by a Taiwanese company. Plenty of phones that are made in China by not Chinese companies. The issue here is phones made in China by a Chinese company.
18   RafiMaas   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 5:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
Feux Follets says
Checked the country of origin on phone products now a days ?


My phone is made in Taiwan by a Taiwanese company. Plenty of phones that are made in China by not Chinese companies. The issue here is phones made in China by a Chinese company.


Wait wait let me guess, the iPhone? Foxconn is a Chinese company right?
19   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 5:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
The issue here is phones made in China by a Chinese company.


What about the country of origin for the components that went into the Taiwan phone ?

Can we include Lenovo PCs ?

What about American branded phones like Apple made by Foxconn in China ? Does that count or just Chinese branded phones made in China?
20   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 5:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The real issue here is the end run deal Potus made to enrich himself.

Let's not bullshit ourselves that all of this was over phones and national security.

Homey (Potus) don't play that shit, not when the Trump organizations' profits or potential profits are involved.

Someone has to look out for number one and number one is not you and me or the country.
21   RafiMaas   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 6:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Americas agriculture does come first. He's working out a deal... something Democrats will never understand. Because the only thing Democrats understand is "give me, give me".


If agriculture comes first then why are crops rotting on the vine?

Maybe it's time for Trumptards to just admit they have been duped.
22   Aphroman   ignore (4)   2018 May 15, 6:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

RafiMaas says
FortWayne says
Americas agriculture does come first. He's working out a deal... something Democrats will never understand. Because the only thing Democrats understand is "give me, give me".


If agriculture comes first then why are crops rotting on the vine?

Maybe it's time for Trumptards to just admit they have been duped.


Never!!!

Muh Hillary!!!!!!!
23   marcus   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 6:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
anotheraccount says
Here. I never supported Hillary, why bring her into this? This is about Trump now.


Anything that reflects badly on trump requires bringing up hillary.


Yes, it's the obvious and predictable answer to Trump corruption. Don't you see ?

Trump's corruption will never compare to what Brietbart says Hillary and Bill did to get contributions to the Clinton foundation.

Also please acknowledge the class and sheer balls that Trump has ! No tax returns ever shown to the public. No divestiture from business interests. And no mamsy pamsy supposed do gooder foundation for pay to play. Just good old fashioned deals that are directly about paying him personally.

You have to admire his brazen moxie !

I'll bet Putin is impressed, and envious.
24   RafiMaas   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 6:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

marcus says
I'll bet Putin is impressed, and envious.


Impressed maybe, envious probably not. Especially if Putting is making money from all of Trumps deals.
25   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 7:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Booger says
Why the fuck would anyone buy a phone made by a Chinese company???


It's like letting the Chinese have all your information. Get a phone pre-laded with Chinese spyware!
26   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 7:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Not to mention a certain model Buick SUV !


Nobody buys those in the US.
27   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 15, 8:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
anotheraccount says
Here. I never supported Hillary, why bring her into this? This is about Trump now.


Anything that reflects badly on trump requires bringing up hillary.


Nope wrong. Anything about pay for play DOES require brining up HRC though.

Trump discussion is pure speculation. There is actual evidence of pay for play w HRC that can be discussed.
28   Aphroman   ignore (4)   2018 May 15, 8:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Muh Hillary!!

Muh Shemale One night stand!!!

Lmao
29   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 8:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says

Trump discussion is pure speculation. There is actual evidence of pay for play w HRC that can be discuss


Still waiting for all the evidence to add up to an arrest warrant or indictment. When will that be coming? All those BLOCKBUSTER revelations and no arrest. Sad.
30   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 15, 8:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says

Americas agriculture does come first. He's working out a deal... something Democrats will never understand. Because the only thing Democrats understand is "give me, give me".


As much taxpayer dollars that go into corporate agriculture it damn well should come first. Especially with all those corporate farms crying give me, give me. I thought we were cleaning up the swamp? I guess that doesn't include big contributors to the republican party.
31   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 10:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

zzyzzx says
Nobody buys those in the US.


Must be quite a few nobodys lurking around then. Probably all libruls you think ?

Buick Envision Sales - February 2018 - United States

In the United States, Buick Envision deliveries totaled 2,842 units in February 2018, a decrease of about 9 percent compared to 3,139 units sold in February 2017.

The GM Authority Take

Buick Envision deliveries fell greater than the segment average of 3.48 percent in February. What’s more, the sales volume was less than half of the over 6,000 units sold in December 2017. The performance retains the Envision in third place in terms of cumulative sales volume in its segment, behind the Lexus NX and Acura RDX, but ahead of the Lincoln MKC (see Lincoln MKC sales) and Infiniti QX50. In addition, Lexus NX sales grew significantly faster than the segment average, being the only model in its segment to increase deliveries in, widening the sales volume gap between it and the segment’s other models.

We expect Envision sales to continue growing in the coming months as long as the market continues to favor crossovers and Buick is capable of keeping up with demand for the vehicle. Whether the Envision can catch up to Lexus and Acura sales volumes in the future remains to be seen, but the scenario has yet to take place on a yearly basis since the Envision launched. What’s more, the Envision will soon see internal competition from GM’s Cadillac brand and its upcoming 2019 Cadillac XT4 compact crossover, which will aim to take on the Lexus NX, Acura RDX, and Infiniti QX50 head on.

The Buick Envision is currently built exclusively at the GM Dong Yue factory operated by GM China.

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/03/buick-envision-sales-numbers-figures-results-february-2018/
32   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 10:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I don't know - but assume this is part of a deal to get China on board to sort out North Korea. If true, I think it is a pretty low price to pay.
33   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 15, 10:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

socal2 says
I don't know - but assume this is part of a deal to get China on board to sort out North Korea. If true, I think it is a pretty low price to pay.


How about assume that Potus was looking out strictly for Potus and no one else and that in order to get his meeting and photo ops with Kim, if ZTI didn't get back in business, President Moon along with Preseint Xi would be the only ones basking in the glow of an adoring public where Korea is concerned.
34   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 May 15, 10:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anotheraccount says
No thread about ZTE?


Their phones suck ass, how's that?
35   Hassan_Rouhani   ignore (2)   2018 May 15, 11:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

My understanding that ZTE was used to demonstrate how easily US can bring to their knees even huge government-connected Chinese firms with just a flick of a finger.
36   anotheraccount   ignore (1)   2018 May 22, 8:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Hassan_Rouhani says
My understanding that ZTE was used to demonstrate how easily US can bring to their knees even huge government-connected Chinese firms with just a flick of a finger.


And Trump could not even pull that off. What a wuss.
37   anotheraccount   ignore (1)   2018 May 22, 8:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
As much taxpayer dollars that go into corporate agriculture it damn well should come first. Especially with all those corporate farms crying give me, give me. I thought we were cleaning up the swamp? I guess that doesn't include big contributors to the republican party.


All that China had to do is target agriculture and Trump gave up. Sad.
38   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 May 22, 8:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Taking Saudi king dick up the ass and sucking Chinese dick, yeah, fucking MAGA, this cunt is all about AMERICA! FIRST, sucking SO! MUCH! DICK! on behalf of AMERICA!, it's fucking inspiring! The only threat to AMERICA! is an election!
39   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 May 22, 9:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Thanks god China still can't make semiconductors. They've spent billions trying but so far that's one thing only we (and S. Korea and Japan) can make.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-04-29/why-can-t-china-make-semiconductors-jglgice5
40   anotheraccount   ignore (1)   2018 May 22, 10:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

just_passing_through says
Thanks god China still can't make semiconductors.
And they still kicked Trump's ass in this negotiation. You would think them not being able to make semiconductors would give us an upper hand.

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