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Why Germans Are Getting Fed Up with America - It’s getting harder for Angela Merkel and the German elite to hold back growing anti-Americanism.


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2018 May 19, 4:17am   3,774 views  22 comments

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Germans have never liked U.S. President Donald Trump, and the backlash against his actions is stronger than ever after he pulled the U.S. out of the Iran nuclear deal last week. But there’s a growing gap between the German establishment and German voters: The former may be anti-Trump, but the latter are increasingly anti-American.

German Chancellor Angel Merkel vented her frustration with Trump in a speech in the North Rhine-Westphalia city of Muenster on Friday, saying his Iran decision “undermines trust in the international order.” “If everybody does just what they want, that’s bad news for the world,” Merkel said.

This outburst coincided with one of the most provocative covers Germany’s highly respected weekly Der Spiegel ever published — an outstretched middle finger bearing Trump’s likeness, with the English caption, “Goodbye, Europe!” Spiegel’s editorial to go with this image called on Europe to join the anti-Trump resistance:

The West as we once knew it no longer exists. Our relationship to the United States cannot currently be called a friendship and can hardly be referred to as a partnership. President Trump has adopted a tone that ignores 70 years of trust. He wants punitive tariffs and demands obedience. It is no longer a question as to whether Germany and Europe will take part in foreign military interventions in Afghanistan or Iraq. It is now about whether trans-Atlantic cooperation on economic, foreign and security policy even exists anymore. The answer: No.

These are strong words. But of course, there was nothing in Merkel’s speech about dissolving Germany’s alliance with the U.S., and the Spiegel editorial only calls on Europe to “begin preparing for a post-Trump America and seek to avoid provoking Washington until then.” The German establishment appears to believe that Trump is the problem and that the time-honored European approach — waiting for the problem to go away, as Europe is already doing with its conciliatory plan to stave off Trump’s threatened steel and aluminum tariffs — is the best bet.

Europe’s defense dependency on America also serves as a reality check. No matter how many times Merkel may tell Trump that Germany plans to raise its defense spending to the 2 percent of gross domestic product demanded by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, her government’s current budget proposal only increases it to 1.29 percent of GDP in 2019 from 1.24 percent this year — and envisions a drop to 1.23 percent in 2022. “One must say, quite simply, that Europe alone isn’t strong enough to be the global peacekeeper,” Merkel said in Muenster.

German voters, however, don’t care so much about that. The Pew Research Center and Germany’s Koerber Stiftung recently compared Americans’ and Germans’ views of bilateral relations and found that while Americans say security and defense ties are the most important aspect of the relationship, to Germans economic ties and shared democratic values hold more significance.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-14/germany-is-getting-fed-up-with-trump-and-america

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1   CBOEtrader   2018 May 19, 5:04am  

"Germany's highly respected Der Spiegle" Haha, right...
2   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 19, 5:35am  

Yeah we're about fed up with that Commie cunt that robbed the last 3 elections as well. She'll never get her way with Lady Liberty.
Nazi Whore!
3   RWSGFY   2018 May 19, 7:32am  

MisterLefty says
“If everybody does just what they want, that’s bad news for the world,” Merkel said.


And what Angela wants is Putin's dick up her ass, apparently. There is no other explanation for her eagerness to allow NordStream-2 pipeline project to proceed despite objections from US and several EU countries.
4   mell   2018 May 19, 7:36am  

She and Europe should do the trade deals they want and act as sovereign nations like the U.S. That being said the title is a lie, Trump is actually quite popular with the Germans favoring independence, strong borders and patriotism. And they are growing. Not the first time the Spiegel lied.
5   RWSGFY   2018 May 19, 7:46am  

mell says
She and Trump is actually quite popular with the Germans favoring independence, strong borders and patriotism.


These would be Nazis, son. You need to get your Germans straight!
6   Shaman   2018 May 19, 11:29am  

Wait... so Putin is bad and deals with Putin are treasonous...until Trump opposes those deals and then they are completely correct in every obvious and morally certain way?!

Trump is Putin’s puppet, but if Trump opposes Putin he’s a traitor?

You Lefties need to get your stories straight. Your “narrative” makes about as much sense as a Rorschach diagram drawn by an autistic weasel!
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 19, 11:49am  

Germany spends only about half the minimum required on Defense as a NATO Member. Yet, they shower Billions of Euros on refugees.

The money Germany saves on defense, they use on R&D, Infrastructure, as well as Refugee Love. Germany also allows the US to take all the blame, while reaping all the benefits.

Merckel's remark about "Europe not being enough is disingenuous. Remember which country fought two World Wars just by itself? The EU contains 2 other G-8 countries besides Germany and the Brexiting UK - France and Italy. The reason the Germans don't want Europe to do their own Defense, much less get involved elsewhere, is because the US is paying for it and they don't have to.

This must end.
8   marcus   2018 May 19, 12:28pm  

MisterLefty says
Germans have never liked U.S. President Donald Trump


I wonder who he reminds them of.
9   mell   2018 May 19, 6:48pm  

WarrenTheApe says
TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
This must end.

It already has. When a NATO crisis hits (say, Russia invades Lithuania) and the US just puts in the bare minimum instead of carrying the full load like the Eurofreeloaders expect's it to, this will become very apparent.


Don't think this will happen. They should use their army though to protect their borders from rapefugees.
10   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 May 19, 7:22pm  

marcus says
MisterLefty says
Germans have never liked U.S. President Donald Trump


I wonder who he reminds them of.


Because he holds rallys filled with talk of how the Jews are destroying the country, has an ethnic group rounded up into camps, and has begun invading neighboring nations, AMIRITE?
11   deepcgi   2018 May 19, 7:26pm  

It was unprecedented in history that the allies didn’t just keep Germany and Japan after WW2. We actually beat them handily and then let them have their countries back. No other conquering nation before had behaved like that.
12   Strategist   2018 May 19, 7:33pm  

deepcgi says
It was unprecedented in history that the allies didn’t just keep Germany and Japan after WW2. We actually beat them handily and then let them have their countries back. No other conquering nation before had behaved like that.


We even paid for their economic recovery after WW2, and even today we pay for their security.
Wow. No wonder we are the greatest country ever known to mankind.
13   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 19, 7:59pm  

WarrenTheApe says
FDR and Truman, who where the last presidents to really put the Germans in their place.


14   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 19, 8:00pm  

Strategist says

We even paid for their economic recovery after WW2, and even today we pay for their security.
Wow. No wonder we are the greatest country ever known to mankind.


No Good Deed goes unpunished.
15   AD   2018 May 19, 11:34pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Again, AMERICA! pays for its pathetic weakness.

Instead of doing what was right - nuke Berlin, take all Germans as slaves and repeal the 13th Amendment and adapt the 3/5ths clause of the flawless constitution for the enslavement of war criminals as just spoils of war - AMERICA! let the huns run wild and despoil Europe and set the stage for the jihadi invasion that is destroying the west.

When did AMERICA! start to hate FREEDOM! so much?



I got a better idea. The USA could look the other way when Russia and its Eastern Europe allies overtake Berlin.
16   AD   2018 May 19, 11:43pm  

Quigley says
Wait... so Putin is bad and deals with Putin are treasonous...until Trump opposes those deals and then they are completely correct in every obvious and morally certain way?!

Trump is Putin’s puppet, but if Trump opposes Putin he’s a traitor?

You Lefties need to get your stories straight. Your “narrative” makes about as much sense as a Rorschach diagram drawn by an autistic weasel!


One thing the Lefties try to avoid is how Obama left Ukraine twisting in the wind, and refused to provide them military arms. Trump arms Ukraine. If you read below, McCain was a thorn in Obama's side as much as he has called out Trump for saying stupid things. I would be more concerned about Obama's intentional misdeeds to weaken the USA (and turn it into a 3rd world welfare state) than Trump frequently posting something stupid online.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/202850-mccain-blasts-administration-amid-latest-russian-aggression
17   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 20, 8:36am  

The last thing that Marxist Commie Whore needs is a reason for us to Liberate Germany from the Moors she's invited in through the front door to rape breed out the German people from her country.
18   Strategist   2018 May 20, 9:28am  

Tim Aurora says
The Germans believe that Trump is an aberration rather than an American direction. That said, Trumpites or Alt-right are only 10% of the Americans


The Germans are right. Trump is an aberration to the general direction America is heading towards. Sometimes we need an aberration to prevent us from being overly complacent.
19   CBOEtrader   2018 May 20, 2:53pm  

Tim Aurora says
Once America turns to protectionism, it accelerates its decline


So far the opposite has happened w Trump. We have increased influence and respect in Asia w amazing results thus far (see Korea reunification and China trade deficit news). Trump is taking steps towards ending wars in the middle east, crushing ISIL in a year of new leadership.

Europe meanwhile, continues to shoot itself in the foot.

He has a lot to prove, but so far Trump has done a good job. This is head and shoulders above the disasters that were George W and Obama.
20   AD   2018 May 20, 3:35pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
adarmiento says

I got a better idea. The USA could look the other way when Russia and its Eastern Europe allies overtake Berlin


Exactly - and THEN! nuke it and take the survivors as SLAVES! exactly as the founding fathers intended!


And your favorite founding fathers are Karl Marx and Engels.
21   AD   2018 May 20, 3:36pm  

Strategist says
The Germans are right. Trump is an aberration to the general direction America is heading towards. Sometimes we need an aberration to prevent us from being overly complacent.


I'd be more concerned about an Obama-style President easily turning the USA into a 3rd world welfare state than a Trump posting stupid things online or making embarrassing comments on TV.
22   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 May 20, 7:01pm  

Tim Aurora says

It is their alliance with conservatives and religious right which has them ruling America. The economic recovery under Obama has now continued under Trump, partly thanks to tax cuts. But this recovery cannot continue forever. The new paradigm dictates that the rural economy is going to be hit much harder than urban and suburban. Not sure how the Trump voters are going to react as most of them are the rural "forgotten" men, likely to affected much harder than rest of the country. Will l they get played again by Trump . Will Trump break from rest of the "free trade" republicans are start putting tariffs. Most likely he will.

Anyways getting back to Germany. Once America turns to protectionism, it accelerates its decline and Europe and China will take over the roles. China with its aggressive military policy may not be able lead the world leaving the world to be


OMG this is beyond ridiculous. Obama had the worst recovery out of a depression in US history!

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obamanomics-gets-f-grade-for-failing-to-create-economic-growth-jobs/

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/05/news/economy/us-recovery-slowest-since-wwii/index.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/01/12/the-worst-economic-recovery-since-the-great-depression/#34eb83aa1423

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-worst-economic-recovery-since-1930s-salaries-fall-17-000-short

The Depression (lets be honest and stop calling it a recession, which is absolute fabrication) was so deep and so long, that yes we have a very long way to go. This economic boom can be quite long.

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