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Reject the Recall!

By Patrick following x   2018 May 20, 9:25am 652 views   18 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Judge Aaron Persky is to be admired for standing up to the ugly climate of radical feminist intimidation and presumption of male guilt in all cases.

Instead of merely crumpling and resigning like so many others lately, he has shown some real backbone and refused to abandon our justice system for mob rule.

The Northern California judge says he would handle the sexual assault case of former Stanford University swimmer Brock Turner the same way today as he did almost two years ago, though it's the reason he is the target of a June 5 recall election and has become the self-described "most hated man on the internet."

In an interview, the 56-year-old Persky argued that the Santa Clara County recall effort was "fundamentally unfair" because it reduces a complicated criminal case to a litany of inflammatory Twitter hashtags. He even got a little teary-eyed as he protested being turned into a one-dimensional caricature of the judge who condones rape.


The group hosting the Q&A with Persky, led by his former colleague, retired judge LaDoris Cordell, opposes the recall. Their concern is that recalling a judge because of an unpopular decision sets a bad precedent. and makes judges less independent, and more easily influenced by popular opinion and politics. Cordell introduced Persky calling him a "fair, honest and respected judge."

Cordell and her allies point out that Persky followed the sentencing guidelines in this case and followed the probation recommendations and couldn't legally go beyond that scope as a judge. They argue that if people thought the sentence was too lenient, the way to correct that is by changing the law, not punishing the judge.


The case of Brock Turner illustrates illustrates the strong tendency to absolve women of all responsibility for their own behavior, and instead blame the man and jump to conclusions regardless of the facts of the case. Here are some important facts not generally reported:

* The woman came from off campus and drank heavily of her own accord at a Stanford frat party.
* She voluntarily kissed Brock repeatedly and went off with him voluntarily to the location of the incident. At no point did he chase her or use force.
* Brock did not ever expose his penis, much less insert it into the woman at any point.
* Brock is accused of fingering her vagina while she was passed out or during a time she simply cannot remember. This may be sexual assault, but it is most definitely not rape.
* Judge Persky follow the sentencing guidelines set down by law, and sentenced Brock to six months for the fingering of a passed out drunk woman who was enthusiastically being sexual with him beforehand.

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2015/01/29/police-report-turner-admits-sexual-contact-denies-alleged-rape/

Brock himself was drunk, so if the woman is absolved from responsibility for her own behavior because of impaired judgement, why is Brock not absolved from his behavior for the same reason? Six months in jail and lifetime registration as a sex offender seems unduly harsh given the facts, not too lenient. In any case, Persky followed the law and there is no reason to recall him.

We should all stand up and affirm the right of judges to fairly enforce our laws even when the mob is calling for blood and everyone else is too intimidated by the terrorists of political correctness to take a more considered view. Reject the recall.

1   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 May 20, 9:28am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

She also lied to her fiance about her whereabouts and was grinding on the dude for a while in front of dozens.
2   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 20, 9:31am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
was grinding on the dude for a while in front of dozens


Brock clearly misinterpreted her grinding on his crotch as a sign of sexual interest.
3   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 24, 11:06am   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

This morning, the two Democratic state reps from the area, Anna Eshoo and Joe Simitian, both opposed the recall.

It was a headline in the local paper in the cafe this morning, but I can't find it online.

Anyhow, they are correct to oppose it. We want to have an actual judicial system, and not a lynch mob.
4   mell   ignore (1)   2018 May 24, 11:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
This morning, the two Democratic state reps from the area, Anna Eshoo and Joe Simitian, both opposed the recall.

It was a headline in the local paper in the cafe this morning, but I can't find it online.

Anyhow, they are correct to oppose it. We want to have an actual judicial system, and not a lynch mob.


So does Lofgren (D) - they all of course mentioned how these "crimes need to be punished more" to pacifyy the SJW feminazi harpies but at least they are opposing the recall - gotta give em credit for it.
5   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 24, 9:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Damn, wish I had taken a photo of that headline about Eshoo and Simitian opposing the recall. It's like someone wanted to erase that story from the internet.

But here's an old one about law professors opposing the Persky recall for very good reason:

https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2017/08/18/law-professors-voice-opposition-to-persky-recall
6   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 May 24, 11:03pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

A woman has to be blowing cock for no less than eight minutes before it is regarded as legal consent.
7   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 25, 7:28am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The anti-mob-rule efforts has its own website:

https://norecall2018.org/

Good letter to the editor here:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/20/letter-persky-recall-effort-is-a-misguided-farce/

Letter: Persky recall effort is a misguided farce
We will be enthusiastically voting against his recall, and we encourage all level-headed, fair minded citizens to do likewise.

While much criticism is made of Judge Persky’s allegedly lenient sentence in the Brock Turner case of 6 months in jail instead of 2-4 years in prison, little mention is made of another aspect of the sentence, which is that Turner must register as a sex offender for life. That means he is on lifetime parole, with restrictions on where he may live and work, with a major impact on his private life. This is not a lenient sentence, but is following the law, which Judge Persky is sworn to do.

From what we see, Judge Persky is a fair-minded public servant doing his job the way he should. We will be enthusiastically voting against his recall, and we encourage all level-headed, fair minded citizens to do likewise. In addition, we will not vote for either of the candidates running to replace him, as it would imply legitimacy of this misguided farce.
8   Feux Follets   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 6, 3:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The controversial judge who sparked outrage after offering a lenient sentence to Brock Turner, a former Stanford University swimmer convicted of sexual assault, was recalled from office Wednesday — becoming the first California jurist recalled from the bench in 86 years.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/06/judge-aaron-persky-who-gave-brock-turners-lenient-sentence-sanford-rape-case-recalled/674551002/
9   Hassan_Rouhani   ignore (2)   2018 Jun 6, 7:38am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The morons have succeded in their moronic effort.
10   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 6, 12:56pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        



The recall was led by an exceptionally ugly woman (?) law professor.

She should be recalled from her job for ruining the life of a good judge who followed the law.

Her motive was apparently anger that good looking men like Brock Turner have always rejected women who look like her. This is her attempt at revenge on innate human biology.
11   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 6, 1:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
The recall was led by an exceptionally ugly woman (?) law professor.

She should be recalled from her job for ruining the life of a good judge who followed the law.

Her motive was apparently that good looking men like Brock Turner have always rejected women who look like her. This is her attempt at revenge on innate human biology.


Most likely. (Human) Nature is pretty simple ;)
12   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 6, 1:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

She must be a Trump Supporter. ;)
13   Hassan_Rouhani   ignore (2)   2018 Jun 6, 2:13pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says


The recall was led by an exceptionally ugly woman (?) law professor.


14   RecentCost   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 6, 2:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Progressives will never stop "progressing". There is never a finish line for them...
15   curious2   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 6, 7:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The case of People v Turner has turned out to have huge consequences including changes in state legislation and now the extraordinary recall of the trial judge. Having read little about the case, I tried to find an objective and well sourced description of what witnesses saw while Brock and Emily were both still awake and could signal their intentions. Might someone please share a link?
16   Feux Follets   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 7, 4:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

curious2 says
an objective and well sourced description


Not sure where that would exist however perhaps searching for some legal viewpoints (they have to be out there somewhere) would be a good starting point. Don't have time right now to assist but there has to be some resources out there that are strictly based on the available evidence or lack thereof and based in legalese as opposed to politics.
17   marcus   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 7, 6:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
exceptionally ugly woman (?)


YOur OP makes the point much better than this comment. It's not like there aren't a lot of very attractive women that don't understand this issue, and are for the recall. For me, this kind of thing detracts from your original argument, and may not even be true. More a reflection of your anger about overzealous feminism. I guess amusing if I were in a different mood, but very much beside the point.

Patrick says
* The woman came from off campus and drank heavily of her own accord at a Stanford frat party.
* She voluntarily kissed Brock repeatedly and went off with him voluntarily to the location of the incident. At no point did he chase her or use force.
* Brock did not ever expose his penis, much less insert it into the woman at any point.
* Brock is accused of fingering her vagina while she was passed out or during a time she simply cannot remember. This may be sexual assault, but it is most definitely not rape.
* Judge Persky follow the sentencing guidelines set down by law, and sentenced Brock to six months for the fingering of a passed out drunk woman who was enthusiastically being sexual with him beforehand.


Additions: Not only did she drink heavily. She arrived at the frat party already intoxicated, with her sister. ALso she is a couple years older than Brock.
18   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 7, 7:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

My wife also opposed the recall, just because it breaks the justice system.




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