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When your friend is attacked by a couger, it is best to run away. This is what a friend for.


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2018 May 20, 3:10pm   4,491 views  31 comments

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Two friends on a morning mountain bike ride 30 miles east of Seattle.

A couger jumped and attacked victim #1.

Victim #2 turned and started to run away.

The cougar saw Victim #2 and went after Victim #2.

Victim #1 saw his friend being pulled by the cougar. He got on his bike and started to bike away and survived to tell the tale.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/20/cougar-kills-1-mountain-biker-injures-2nd-near-seattle.html

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1   NDrLoR   2018 May 20, 3:11pm  

MoneySheep says
Victim #1 saw his friend being pulled by the cougar. He got on his bike and started to bike away and survived to tell the tale.
You can hardly blame him.
2   Patrick   2018 May 20, 3:39pm  

I went running about 8am one summer morning in Huddart Park here on the peninsula in 2014.

About halfway up the hill toward Skyline drive, I thought "damn, that is a big yellow dog with a very long tail above me up the hill" and then "people aren't supposed to have dogs in the park, where is its owner?" and then "oh shit, that's not a dog".

It was only about 20 feet above me on the switchback, but I guess it could not smell or hear me because of the vertical distance and trees. Then the mountain lion saw me, and took off unnaturally fast. Like no dog can run. Like the creature from Alien fast.

Then I had the dilemma of continuing to run up the deserted path or back down the deserted path. I turned off the music, picked up a stick and kept running upward, figuring that since it was afraid enough of me to run, it probably was not going to attack.

End of story, but could have been the end of patrick.net. I don't run alone in the park in the early morning anymore, and I have zero interest in conserving things that can easily rip me apart, even if they are warm and fuzzy.

Marker shows where it was in the park:

3   everything   2018 May 20, 3:41pm  

Neither of them deserved to live, together they should have survived, but it's everyone for themselves. All you need to do is pick up a rock or find a weapon, a stick, anything will do, this is how man learned to survive .. by using that opposable thumb. The trick with cougar is not to turn your back to it. Even if my head was in it's mouth I would have my fingers in it's ears and looking to gouge an eye. Never give up. In territory like that I'd be carrying mace, knife, and maybe even a gun.
4   CBOEtrader   2018 May 20, 3:57pm  

I'd carry a revolver or mace. The attack stories wouldn't change though. "It attacked out of nowhere." These cats kill you before you know they're there. Good luck w that 6 shooter
5   Ceffer   2018 May 20, 4:17pm  

Mountain lions are almost invisible for the most part. The attacks are so rare related to human population and the number of mountain lions out there, they are barely worth mentioning. If mountain lions had it in for humans, there would be reports on a daily basis rather than a rare report over many, many years.

In one of my neighborhoods, there is a mountain lion in the arroyo. My wife and I were walking in the dark, and we saw a dark figure slink in some close by bushes. I had a hiking light on my head, and the figure shifted it's head right at us like a cat aka very big cat with big eyes shining back in reflection from the headlamp and my wife saw it too. You are not supposed to run away from them, but it is almost impossible to restrain fear and not do so. We walked away very fast. That area of the bushes is a favorite resting spot for deer and bambis.

The lion has been hanging around, because twice it has been right outside my study window at night. One night, I heard a loud thump on the wall outside my study, then Wild Kingdom growls, snarls etc of something being attacked. I could not see, but it was a cat, and the sounds were sometimes almost bird like tweets in between very loud snarls, growls and loud meows??, scary effing shit. The next day, I could barely see any disturbance around the window outside for whatever was being attacked (raccoon?). There were scats on the front porch. We are away a couple of days a week at a second home with this one dark, so maybe the lion has made it a place to stalk deer or raccoons hanging around the house. (House sits right across from arroyo, whereas most of the houses in development are in further away from arroyo).

I thought that would be a one time experience, except another brawl occurred last week, but about three feet away from my study, with the snarling, growling, tweeting etc and a large hoot owl in the tree participating with loud hoots. It was otherworldly. Again, very little signs of disturbance.

None of my neighbors have ever seen this cat around, which shows how subtle it is..

I am not worried about it being there, because I am sure it is not the least interested in people. It probably keeps the deer and other overpopulating animals at bay.
6   Ceffer   2018 May 20, 6:46pm  

"Why am I your friend again?"

"Because I can run faster than you."
7   Booger   2018 May 20, 6:54pm  

Today I learned that if I ever take up jogging, do so with someone who can't run as fast as I can.
8   RWSGFY   2018 May 20, 7:46pm  

everything says
should have survived, but it's everyone for themselves. All you need to do is pick up a rock or find a weapon, a stick, anything will do, this is how man learned to survive ..


He could've started by throwing his bike at the fucking creature. Instead the fucking coward decided to flee and leave his fellow biker in mortal danger. Him ending up dead is a fucking poetic justice.
9   Shaman   2018 May 20, 8:18pm  

If my buddy was attacked by a cougar, I’d toss him a few condoms and laugh at him the next day.
10   lostand confused   2018 May 20, 8:21pm  

Here I thought this topic was about Hillary Clinton scouring for young men in the woods.
11   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 20, 8:26pm  

Not what I thought this thread was about.
12   BayArea   2018 May 20, 9:44pm  

everything says
Neither of them deserved to live, together they should have survived, but it's everyone for themselves. All you need to do is pick up a rock or find a weapon, a stick, anything will do, this is how man learned to survive .. by using that opposable thumb. The trick with cougar is not to turn your back to it. Even if my head was in it's mouth I would have my fingers in it's ears and looking to gouge an eye. Never give up. In territory like that I'd be carrying mace, knife, and maybe even a gun.


I love your fighting spirit but if a big cat wants you dead, you’re dead.
13   lostand confused   2018 May 20, 10:02pm  

BayArea says
everything says
Neither of them deserved to live, together they should have survived, but it's everyone for themselves. All you need to do is pick up a rock or find a weapon, a stick, anything will do, this is how man learned to survive .. by using that opposable thumb. The trick with cougar is not to turn your back to it. Even if my head was in it's mouth I would have my fingers in it's ears and looking to gouge an eye. Never give up. In territory like that I'd be carrying mace, knife, and maybe even a gun.


I love your fighting spirit but if a big cat wants you dead, you’re dead.


Yup, a cougar can kill a grown elk, a little human is no match.
14   CBOEtrader   2018 May 20, 11:12pm  

lostand confused says
Here I thought this topic was about Hillary Clinton scouring for young men in the woods.


HRC is more of a battle-cat than a cougar
15   Ceffer   2018 May 20, 11:38pm  

The mountain lion was politically incorrect, and thus, deserved to die:

"According to the Seattle Bike Blog, Brooks (pictured) was an avid biker, who co-founded Friends on Bikes Seattle to create a bike community where women/trans/femme/non-binary people of color could come together and have fun on bikes."





A Seattle/Portland mountain lion should have known better and only killed a cis-gendered white male, preferably by first attacking his genitals.
16   CBOEtrader   2018 May 21, 12:17am  

Booger says
Today I learned that if I ever take up jogging, do so with someone who can't run as fast as I can.


This reminds me of an old Lakota joke my great grandma used to tell. It basically amounts to two bear hunters who discuss that bears can run 35 mph. The first hunter puts on hiking boots. The second puts on running shoes. First hunter "Why do you have on running shoes when bears can outrun a Toyota?" Second hunter: "I dont need to outrun the bear. I just need to outrun you."

Then the circle of Lakotas would all harrumph together. There's something about watching your culture die into an american alcoholic abyss that results in a gallows sense of humor.
17   CBOEtrader   2018 May 21, 12:18am  

Ceffer says
The mountain lion was politically incorrect, and thus, deserved to die:

"According to the Seattle Bike Blog, Brooks (pictured) was an avid biker, who co-founded Friends on Bikes Seattle to create a bike community where women/trans/femme/non-binary people of color could come together and have fun on bikes."





A Seattle/Portland mountain lion should have known better and only killed a cis-gendered white male, preferably by first attacking his genitals.


3 packs? how many lunches does the fat xir need?
18   Ceffer   2018 May 21, 12:43am  

I hope the mountain lion in our arroyo doesn't plan on becoming our pet and leave a dead transgendered person on our doorstep. I would hate to have to leave a bucket of milk on the porch every night.

The pickets wouldn't be much fun, either.
19   Tenpoundbass   2018 May 21, 5:55am  

saac “Izzy” Sederbaum, a leftwing Seattle activist, is the fellow who was first bitten by the cougar, then fled after it took a culinary interest in his transsexual partner “Sonya” or “SJ” Brooks.

Izzy peddled away to get help while the cougar ate SJ.

What’s the old joke?

You don’t have to be faster than a bear; you only need to be faster than your partner.

20   HeadSet   2018 May 21, 6:12am  

"According to the Seattle Bike Blog, Brooks (pictured) was an avid biker, who co-founded Friends on Bikes Seattle to create a bike community where women/trans/femme/non-binary people of color could come together and have fun on bikes."

This is who was killed by the puma?

Best politically correct, insensitive joke to put here is "Who says you can't train a cat?"
21   lostand confused   2018 May 21, 8:11am  

The mountain lion was not looking for lean meat.
22   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 May 21, 8:21am  

Dear Heavens Almighty, are you guys being facetious or did the animal really eat the Trans Fat while the Gay Jew peddled away?

Tragedy, but there's a joke in here somewhere.
23   RWSGFY   2018 May 21, 8:36am  

At least the kitty snacked not on a person who was denied the right to carry a gun but on two boobs who wouldn't carry it even if allowed.
25   RC2006   2018 May 21, 8:42am  

Good thing for the cat it cant get human aids.
26   zzyzzx   2018 May 21, 8:57am  

Ceffer says


As a former member of two huge cycling clubs (combined memberships probably over 5000), you just don't see serious cyclists that are that fat. It just doesn't happen. I doubt that they are an avid biker, because if you bike that much, it's pretty much impossible to be that fat.
27   Automan Empire   2018 May 21, 9:34am  

CBOEtrader says
an old Lakota joke my great grandma used to tell. It basically amounts to two bear hunters who discuss that bears can run 35 mph. The first hunter puts on hiking boots. The second puts on running shoes. First hunter "Why do you have on running shoes when bears can outrun a Toyota?"


When your oral traditions include foreign automobiles, running shoes, and English measurement units, it kind of casts doubt upon their ancient native provenance.
28   CBOEtrader   2018 May 21, 10:24am  

Automan Empire says
When your oral traditions include foreign automobiles, running shoes, and English measurement units, it kind of casts doubt upon their ancient native provenance.


LOL, so native people can neither appropriate English words for modern inventions, nor use said inventions. Got it. I'll a smoke signal to the chiefs.
29   CBOEtrader   2018 May 21, 10:25am  

Tenpoundbass says
You don’t have to be faster than a bear; you only need to be faster than your partner.


I suppose a 300 lb trans kid is the perfect hiking and biking partner.
30   marcus   2018 May 21, 10:45am  

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't run. But I'm not sure I would do the right thing. Would I freeze for too long ? Perhaps using your bicycle somehow would have been wise. Just fall on the cougar and your friend with your bicycle. Freak the thing out enough to make it run. I know, it's easy to say what you would do. Who knows ?

Trump said he would have run after the shooter at Parkland, even if he was unarmed.
31   Ceffer   2018 May 21, 10:58am  

What was worse, the mauling death or the fashion atrocity?

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