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NFL Bans KNEELING

By joshuatrio following x   2018 May 23, 11:31am 1,390 views   127 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


LOL!

"ATLANTA -- NFL owners have unanimously approved a new national anthem policy that requires players to stand if they are on the field during the performance but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer, it was announced Wednesday."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23582533/nfl-owners-approve-new-national-anthem-policy

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88   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 4:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The History of the National Anthem in Sports.

THE FIRST THING to remember is that it's a battle song

Back to 1918

"For a baseball game in a world's Championship series," the Chicago Tribune wrote, "yesterday's combat between the Cubs and Red Sox was perhaps the quietest on record."

With one exception: the seventh-inning stretch. As was common during sporting events, a military band was on hand to play, and while the fans were on their feet, the musicians fired up "The Star-Spangled Banner." They weren't the only active-duty servicemen on the field, though.

Red Sox third baseman Fred Thomas was playing the Series while on furlough from the Navy, where he'd been learning seamanship at the Great Lakes Naval Training Station in Chicago. But Thomas' months of military training had hardly dulled his diamond skills.

Upon hearing the opening notes of Key's song from the military band, Thomas immediately faced the flag and snapped to attention with a military salute. The other players on the field followed suit, in "civilian" fashion, meaning they stood and put their right hands over their hearts. The crowd, already standing, showed its first real signs of life all day, joining in a spontaneous sing-along, haltingly at first, then finishing with flair.

The scene made such an impression that The New York Times opened its recap of the game not with a description of the action on the field but with an account of the impromptu singing: "First the song was taken up by a few, then others joined, and when the final notes came, a great volume of melody rolled across the field. It was at the very end that the onlookers exploded into thunderous applause and rent the air with a cheer that marked the highest point of the day's enthusiasm."

The Cubs front office realized it had witnessed something unique. For the next two games, it had the band play "The Star-Spangled Banner" during the seventh-inning stretch, to similarly enthusiastic crowds. By Game 3, a bigger crowd of 27,000 was in attendance. Not to be outdone, the Red Sox ratcheted up the pageantry when the Series relocated to Boston for the next three games. At Fenway Park, "The Star-Spangled Banner" moved from the seventh-inning stretch to the pregame festivities, and the team coupled the playing of the song with the introduction of wounded soldiers who had received free tickets.

In subsequent years, through subsequent wars, it grew into the daily institution we know today.

What, after all, does an antagonistic, difficult-to-sing 200-year-old tune about a flag have to do with playing ball?

Quite a bit, actually. Congress didn't officially adopt the "The Star-Spangled Banner" until 1931 -- and by that time it was already a baseball tradition steeped in wartime patriotism. Thanks to a brass band, some fickle fans and a player who snapped to attention on a somber day in September, the old battle ballad was the national pastime's anthem more than a decade before it was the nation's.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/6957582/the-history-national-anthem-sports-espn-magazine

So by playing the anthem at every available opportunity we continue to glorify war and have "forced" patriotism.

Potus isn't about being patriotic - this is very thinly veiled disguise to stamp out protest and dissent and one more small step towards totalitarianism.

Then again Potus probably dreams of this.

China's answer to anthem disrespect: up to 3 years in prison

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-makes-disrespecting-national-anthem-punishable-jail-083055222.html
89   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 May 26, 7:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
CovfefeButDeadly says
Apparently not.

CovfefeButDeadly says
krc says
krc says
We all understand that the "kneeling" in public during a football game is to get attention paid to an issue where it would be ignored otherwi

CovfefeButDeadly says
What issue would that be?

FYI
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-sat-during-national-anthem


So non quantifiable fairy tales.

Ok.


lol--which "fact" do you suppose krc is getting wrong.


There is no facts offered! Which is why you put the word fact in quotations I suppose.
90   RafiMaas   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 7:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Then again Potus probably dreams of this.

China's answer to anthem disrespect: up to 3 years in prison


The USA is becoming more commie each and every day. Why don't the rethuglicans who don't like freedom just more to China or Russia?
91   Aphroman   ignore (4)   2018 May 26, 8:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
There wasn't any regulation until AFTER Tebow, when the NFL put in rules on religious expression on the field.


Except religious celebrations were allowed so that pretty much kills your narrative. Tebow wasn't penalized as I posted earlier.

Seriously--did you read the article? Tebow WASN'T penalized after the rules were in place. Abdullah WAS. Some Muslims (not "the left") asked why the double standard and the NFL agreed and allowed praying just like it allowed Tebow's celebration.

So, the only hypocrites are Trump supporters. Again.


The Trump bois are the most triggered bunch of snowflakes I’ve ever seen

A bunch of people who don’t even watch the NFL being manipulated to have meltdowns over the players protesting injustice.

Only in America
92   Aphroman   ignore (4)   2018 May 26, 8:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
LeonDurham says
TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
I guess I need to repeat myself yet again.

When Tebow was kneeling for Jesus, mostly around 2011, there were no NFL restrictions on end zone praying.

AFTER, key word after.
After after after like in after shave or afterburn
AFTER
AFTER
AFTER Tebow

The NFL adopted broader and firmed restrictions on striking poses on the field, sometime around 2013.


Except the restrictions WOULD NOT HAVE AFFECTED TEBOW

Your entire premise is bullshit. It's all BS.

The only player to get penalized for a religious celebration was Muslim. You have it exactly backwards.


Wrong. The regulation was updated BECAUSE of Tebow, to limit to a few seconds (3?) any demonstrations in the end zone.

And the eyeblack ban w...


It wasn’t because of Tebow, nobody gave a shit about him because he was horrible at football.

The rules were put in place because Terrel Owens was doing elaborate celebrations and using props, and the same bunch of whinger old racist white losers were complaining it was ruining the game

Remember Ocho Cinco?
93   Aphroman   ignore (4)   2018 May 26, 8:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Damn Liberals. Why must they keep reminding us the this country was built on the separation of church and state? It really irks a certain segment of the population that is obviously about as smart as they are patriotic Americans, because they continue to shit on everything that has made our nation great, by attempting to inject their phony loser religion for halfwits. Get a life. Get a clue. Get a passport and get the fuck out of my country if you hate America and it’s Freedoms. Losers
94   BayArea   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 11:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
There would not be an "issue" if the people kneeling were white would there ?


Of course there would be.
95   Sniper   ignore (11)   2018 May 26, 3:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

BayArea says
Feux Follets says
There would not be an "issue" if the people kneeling were white would there ?


Of course there would be.


Interesting, as hard as I look, I don't see a single person kneeling during the national anthem at NASCAR races. There certainly is a hell of a lot more people on pit road than there is on the sidelines of a NFL game. Surely you would expect a few kneelers, right?




Hmmm, why aren't there any people kneeling in those pictures?

and for bonus points, many even have their hands on their hearts!! They must really hate America, right?
96   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 5:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
many even have their hands on their hearts!! They must really hate America, right?


36 U.S. Code § 301 - National anthem

(a) Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

(b) Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

(Pub. L. 105–225, Aug. 12, 1998, 112 Stat. 1263; Pub. L. 110–417, [div. A], title V, § 595, Oct. 14, 2008, 122 Stat. 4475.)

WORTH NOTING : The First Amendment does prevent prosecution for violation of this code, but it is a code anyway.

Large Picture, Small Picture too small for Details:

Obviously they don't know which direction to stand - Infraction 1

They are not all their right hand over the heart - Infraction 2

They are not all at attention - Infraction 3

Sniper says
Hmmm, why aren't there any people kneeling in those pictures?


Blind obedience to tradition ?

Some of them no doubt have no idea why but are doing it because everyone else is.

Peer Pressure ?

Sniper says
Interesting, as hard as I look, I don't see a single person kneeling during the national anthem at NASCAR races


Watch them all now do you especially the anthem part ? Not much into NASCAR myself let alone to make sure I would catch the Anthem before each one just to see who is doing what.

Does this include in the stands ?

What about at the concessions ?

What about in the broadcast booth ?

Notice any minorities in the crowd on pit row ?
97   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 5:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

It used to be illegal to not stand for the national anthem.

When it comes to Colin Kaepernick’s continuing protest, everyone’s on the same page about one thing: choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a recognizable sign of protest. It only makes sense as a statement because standing is customary.

And like all rituals of patriotism, standing for the anthem is not timeless or innate. It has a history — and not a very long one, relatively speaking.

https://timeline.com/illegal-stand-national-anthem-222775e14f93

KEY WORDS - IMPORTANT WORDS - USED TO BE ILLEGAL, USED TO BE
98   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 5:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

It's a symbolic ritual just like something at the Elks Lodge, Scout Meetings, Churches - symbolic rituals for symbolic minded individuals.

Nothing to do with the measure of someone's patriotism -nada, zero, zilch.
99   mell   ignore (1)   2018 May 26, 5:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
When it comes to Colin Kaepernick’s continuing protest, everyone’s on the same page about one thing: choosing not to stand for the national anthem is a recognizable sign of protest. It only makes sense as a statement because standing is customary.


He can protest in his free time, not at work. The NFL has ruled. The case is closed.
100   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 5:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

BayArea says
Of course there would be.


No there wouldn't be.

If there was some brouhaha, whatever was causing angst would be addressed and an excuse would be forthcoming to swiftly correct said problem/grievance.

This whole episode has nothing at all to do with Patriotism. It is a wedge issue P.R. stunt designed to motivate the base.

Potus bone spurs has now gotten around to dictating what does and what doesn't constitute appropriate forms/displays of proper patriotic behavior ?

Serving his country instead of hiding behind a deferment would have been nice.

Maybe he can delve into ethical behavior as well.

After that he can delve into telling the truth on a more frequent basis along with the rest of the administration.
101   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 26, 5:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

mell says
He can protest in his free time, not at work. The NFL has ruled. The case is closed.


Wouldn't count on that.

On the other hand isn't nice to know your government is diligently working to help everyone understand what is and isn't an acceptable form of dissent/protest, what hours you may engage in such activity, what days, and so much more.

They are even working equally as hard to discredit any organization that publishes true but offending and disparaging commentary on the administration and family members of administration officials and members.

Guess the appropriate religion, dress codes for everyone from birth thru death - all this coming in our future.

Wonder what the options will be for education and medical care. Needs based ?

What a swell country we live in.
102   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 26, 7:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
The History of the National Anthem in Sports.


So, Futbol Games - do they have the national anthems of the respective countries?

Of course they do.


I thought all the Lefties wanted us to be more like Europe.
103   mell   ignore (1)   2018 May 26, 7:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
I thought all the Lefties wanted us to be more like Europe.


There's a debate right now in Germany because oezil is never singing the anthem despite being in the national team forever. Note though he is standing tall for it. Sounds like nobody feels like kneeling over there. Suck it kaepernick.
104   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 26, 7:24pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I can't take the Germans Standing for the Anthem! Fascist Europe! Stop the Fascism of having Anthems at Sports!
105   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 26, 7:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Whether it's Poor Country's Football or American Football, we should substitute those FASCIST! AGGRESSIVE! REACTIONARY! Anthems for this!
!!!Fascist Fucks!!!! Sports already endorse Capitalist Adventurism!
106   Sniper   ignore (11)   2018 May 26, 8:04pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and


is this what the NFL players were doing?

Feux Follets says
Infraction


Ahh, so that's what those NFL payers were doing... we're making progress...

Feux Follets says
Notice any minorities in the crowd on pit row ?


Look at that, we're even getting closer to the problem... just a few more hints where the issue truly lies...
107   Sniper   ignore (11)   2018 May 26, 8:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Sniper says
Interesting, as hard as I look, I don't see a single person kneeling during the national anthem at NASCAR races


Watch them all now do you especially the anthem part ? Not much into NASCAR myself let alone to make sure I would catch the Anthem before each one just to see who is doing what.


Yep, I do watch them all. Plus, I was doing a comparison between the players in each sport, you know, those tough guys on the NFL sidelines versus those non-athletes on pit road. Sorry if this comparison escapes you.
108   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 6:33am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

If this is what I have to stand for, I'd rather sit.

109   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 7:25am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
Interesting, as hard as I look, I don't see a single person kneeling during the national anthem at NASCAR races. There certainly is a hell of a lot more people on pit road than there is on the sidelines of a NFL game. Surely you would expect a few kneelers, right?


Interesting that you mention NASCAR. How are the ratings doing for those American Patriots that stand for the national anthem??

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/03/nascar-ratings-las-vegas-record-low/



Maybe the fake patriotism is pissing people off? Maybe the drivers should start kneeling to get better ratings?
110   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 7:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
So, Futbol Games - do they have the national anthems of the respective countries?

Of course they do.


Are you comparing World Cup games where the players are representing their countries with NFL games?

https://the18.com/soccer-news/why-europe-doesnt-play-national-anthems-before-matches
111   Sniper   ignore (11)   2018 May 27, 9:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
Interesting that you mention NASCAR. How are the ratings doing for those American Patriots that stand for the national anthem??


LeonDurham says
Maybe the fake patriotism is pissing people off? Maybe the drivers should start kneeling to get better ratings?


Has nothing to do with national anthem.

NASCAR has turned to shit. This is what happens when a business is turned over to the spoiled, Special Snowflakes to run after their parents had it running very successfully.
112   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 May 27, 9:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Notice any minorities in the crowd on pit row ?


Liberals are strange, they like to decide what is the right amount of race/gender/ethnic background... amount that should be present at any given event. Yet they think they stand for freedom lol.
113   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 12:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
NASCAR has turned to shit. This is what happens when a business is turned over to the spoiled, Special Snowflakes to run after their parents had it running very successfully.


How is Nascar a sport?

TURN LEFT... TURN LEFT.... TURN LEFT..... TURN LEFT.... I rest my case.
114   mell   ignore (1)   2018 May 27, 12:51pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
Feux Follets says
Notice any minorities in the crowd on pit row ?


Liberals are strange, they like to decide what is the right amount of race/gender/ethnic background... amount that should be present at any given event. Yet they think they stand for freedom lol.


Yeah. Next thing is do you know how many lgbtq+-xyz people were in the crowd?no? Well then it's not representative! Lol
115   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 4:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says

Has nothing to do with national anthem.

NASCAR has turned to shit. This is what happens when a business is turned over to the spoiled, Special Snowflakes to run after their parents had it running very successfully.


Ah, yes, I forgot Trumpkins logic again.

NFL ratings down--due to national anthem protests.
NASCAR ratings down (more)--due to poor management.
116   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 May 27, 6:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Why isn't TRUMPLIGULA! having these terrorists shot?

Why does he HATE! AMERICA! ?
117   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 27, 6:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
Are you comparing World Cup games where the players are representing their countries with NFL games?

Yep.

What happens if a Soccer Player refuses to stand for an anthem - regardless of whose it is?
118   Sniper   ignore (11)   2018 May 27, 6:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
Ah, yes, I forgot Trumpkins logic again.

NFL ratings down--due to national anthem protests.
NASCAR ratings down (more)--due to poor management.


Yes, you're finally learning the correct logic:

NFL viewership down and study suggests it’s over protests
While the NFL attributes the decline in ratings to the presidential race, a study conducted by Rasmussen Reports shows otherwise. Approximately 1,000 American adults participated in a telephone questionnaire on Oct. 2-3 that revealed nearly one-third (32 percent) are “less likely to watch an NFL game” due to players taking a stand and protesting the national anthem. Thirteen percent want to watch a game because of the protests.
https://theundefeated.com/features/nfl-viewership-down-and-study-suggests-its-over-protests/

NASCAR Fans Are Racing Away From The Sport Even Faster
NASCAR has changed its rules so many times to gin up competition that the show seems contrived. The most preposterous innovation was to divide races into “stages,” where points are awarded after each segment and the cars are bunched back up and then restarted. Fans grumble that there are, or seem to be, more advertisements wedged into a telecast. So there is no continuity, no unspooling of the narrative thread.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davecaldwell/2018/05/02/stock-car-fans-continue-racing-away-from-nascar/#2e910ab51df5

Stay tuned, the Trumpkins will teach you even more FACTS and LOGIC.
119   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 27, 7:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Look at this Canadian Militarism.


I'm appalled at this Raw Display of Aggressive Canuckistani Supremacy.
120   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 27, 7:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

More disgusting Canadian Supremacy.
121   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 May 27, 7:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FUCKING! CUNTS!

THERE IS NO NATION BUT AMERICA!

FUCK! YOUR! ANTHEM! AND YOUR! PATHETIC! COLLECTION OF IDIOT! MONARCHISTS!
122   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 4:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
Stay tuned, the Trumpkins will teach you even more FACTS and LOGIC.


123   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 4:33am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Roger Goodell Jealously Watches Footage Of North Korean Athletes Singing, Standing For Anthem

According to sources close to Roger Goodell, the NFL Commissioner spent a few minutes at NFL headquarters Friday wistfully watching footage of North Korean athletes singing and standing for their national anthem at various sporting events over the past several decades.

Goodell reportedly continued to shake his head and sigh as he clicked on video after video, jealous of the patriotism on display by every North Korean athlete and spectator.

“See, these guys get it,” he said as he pulled up a YouTube video of North Korean cheerleaders dancing in unison during the Winter Olympics.

“It can’t be that difficult for our players to be as patriotic as all the people North Korea forces to perform at each and every sporting event. How hard is it?”

The commissioner was also reportedly impressed by North Koreans’ ability to stand, sing, and smile for the full length of the country’s national anthem.

“They all look so happy, and they know every word by heart.

Why can’t our football players just look happy and respectful without voicing dissent? I don’t get it.”

At publishing time, Goodell had placed a call to North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Un to ask how the leader was able to get his athletes to appear patriotic at each and every sporting event.

http://babylonbee.com/news/roger-goodell-jealously-watches-footage-of-north-korean-athletes-singing-standing-for-anthem/
124   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 4:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
Trumpkins will teach you even more FACTS and LOGIC


125   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 4:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says
Trumpkins will teach you even more FACTS and LOGIC.


126   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 6:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sniper says

Stay tuned, the Trumpkins will teach you even more FACTS and LOGIC.


lol-so now polls are facts and logic?

The hypocrisy of Trump supporters knows no bounds.
127   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 6:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

Yep.

What happens if a Soccer Player refuses to stand for an anthem - regardless of whose it is?


They don't play the national anthem at non-World Cup games in Europe, so the question is moot.

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