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What a real leftoid fascist police state without 1st and 2nd amendment looks like

By mell following x   2018 May 26, 8:52pm 594 views   55 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-26/tommy-robinson-arrested-outside-uk-court-jailed-13-months-judge-orders-orwellian

The UK is long gone (RIP). God bless the US - go Trump and MAGA!

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UK activist and English Defence Leage founder Tommy Robinson was arrested on Friday outside of Leeds Crown Court for reporting on a pedophile grooming trial. Within six hours of his arrest, Robinson was handed a 13 month prison term for violating a prior suspended sentence for a similar offense, while media outlets were banned from covering the incident by the court - with several removing reports which had already been published.



Footage shows Robinson, 35, being arrested while livestreaming to his Facebook page outside the courthouse. He can be heard shouting to a friend "Please, George, get me a solicitor, I’m on a suspended sentence, you see."



Caolan Robertson

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Tommy Robinson has been arrested in Leeds court for reporting on grooming gangs. More updates to follow

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“A big police van with about seven police officers pulled up and arrested [Robinson] and told him to stop live streaming,” Robinson’s producer told RT (before their article (archived) was scrubbed from the internet). “They said it was incitement and a breach of the peace.

“No peace has been breached – there were two other people there and he’s been perfectly quiet talking into his phone. [The police] said nothing about the court proceedings. It’s very strange.”

Disturbingly, the judge who sentenced Robinson, Geoffrey Marson QC, ordered an Orwellian media blackout - which resulted in several publications deleting their articles from the web covering Robinson's arrest.


Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸

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The most terrifying video you’ll see today. https://www.pscp.tv/w/bdhDrzE0MDc0NTN8MUJSSmpyUE5NdlpKd0KUYZEbjMyFwspypS-CTjorp7W8vP0wXoGrBL3VqQwy

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The most terrifying video you’ll see today.

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It has been made clear to us if we put any more information out than we have that we ourselves face a very real risk of arrest. So thank you to everyone standing up for the truth and for freedom of the press at this moment. Thank you, thank you.


Carp hey denim
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I won't stop. Here's the gag order & here's the judge smiling as Tommy is about toget arrested with one of the officers involved #freeTommy pic.twitter.com/iKjtT6Amwe

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Media delete articles on Tommy Robinson arrest in the UK after judge orders reporting ban. https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1000062767687241729

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Robinson was admonished last year by Judge Heather Norton for filming outside a gang rape case in Canterbury, who slapped him with a three month suspended sentence on the condition that he cease his coverage of the trials.

you should be under no illusions that if you commit any further offence of any kind, and that would include, I would have thought a further contempt of court by similar actions, then that sentence of three months would be activated -Judge Heather Norton

“This is not about free speech, not about the freedom of the press, nor about legitimate journalism, and not about political correctness,” the judge told Robinson at the time.

#FreeTommy

In response to Robinson's arrest, a large group of protesters gathered outside Downing Street - while the hashtag #FreeTommy has been used to coordinate a response, express outrage and share information about the situation.


Nick Monroe
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I have been handed this update on the Tommy Robinson situation. It includes a point of contact if you wish to send your support. pic.twitter.com/2mbVy6IjMt


Nick Monroe
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A crowd of #FreeTommy protesters have gathered in support of Tommy Robinson.

This video comes via @VervimaMedia pic.twitter.com/P7a6fmBRTd

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Live at #FreeTommy

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Robinson's arrest has also sparked a free speech debate over social media, with supporters and detractors alike standing up for the controversial activist's right (or lack thereof) to express his opinion.


Lauren Southern

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Tommy Robinson has just been sentenced to jail for 13 months. There is a UK reporting ban. No one there is allowed to talk about it. #FreeTommy

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Kelham Hurst
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I don’t agree with everything he says, but being arrested for filming a news story outside a courthouse, and imprisoned within 6 hours sounds dystopian #FreeTommy

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Tommy Robinson was [REDACTED] for reporting on [REDACTED] and [REDACTED] to [REDACTED] months in [REDACTED]. Reporting on [REDACTED] in the United Kingdom is illegal until [REDACTED].

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Today Judge Geoffrey Marson QC sentenced a man who may not be named to death in a secret trial that may not be reported on for an offence that may not be mentioned although it is suspected to be for exposing the extent of child abuse and grooming gangs in Britain. #tommyrobinson

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Pedophile grooming gangs

A group of 29 defendants are being tried for historical sex offences against children, split into three trials. Robinson was arrested at the second trial, while the first is ongoing.

For more on the grooming gangs which have abused over 700 women and girls, click here.

Meanwhile, enraged Britons have been harassing the defendants as they make their way to court in the ongoing trials.





Here is the full list of defendants via The Sun.

First Trial

Amere Singh Dhaliwal, 34, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., is accused of 54 charges, including 21 charges of rape and 14 charges of trafficking with a view of sexual exploitation. Dhaliwal is accused of charges against eleven different girls from 2004 to 2011.

Irfan Ahmed, 32, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with nine offences including making an indecent image of a child.

Zahid Hassan, 28, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with 20 offences including six charges of raping a girl aged 13 or under.

Mohammed Kammer, 32, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with two offences including rape of a girl under 15.

Mohammed Aslam, 29, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with two offences including rape of a girl under 15.

Abdul Rehman, 30, from Sheffield, South Yorks., was charged with seven offences including raping a girl under 15.

Raj Singh Barsran, 32, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with three offences including sexual touching of a girl over 13.

Nahman Mohammed, 31 from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with three counts including trafficking a person for sexual exploitation.

Zubair Ahmed, 30, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with two offences including raping a girl under the age 15.

Hamzha Saleem, 37, from Old traddford, Gtr Mancs., was charged with three counts including human trafficking.

Second Trial (Robinson's arrest)

Mansoor Akhtar, 25, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with three offences including attempted rape of a girl under the age of 13.

Mohammed Asaf Akram, 31, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with 14 offences including four charges of raping a girl of thirteen or under and one charge of threatening to kill.

Wiqas Mahmud, 36 from Huddersfield, West Yorks.., was charged with three offences of rape of a girl under 15.

Nasarat Hussain, 28, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with five offences including rape of a girl under 15.

Sajid Hussain, 32, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with five offences including rape of a girl under 15.

Mohammed Irfraz, 28, from Huddersfield, West Yorks.., was charged with eight offences including false imprisonment.

Faisal Nadeem, 30 from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with three counts including raping a woman 16 or over.

Mohammed Azeem, 31, from Bradford, West Yorks., was charged with three offences including rape of a girl under 15.

Zulquarnian Dogar, 29, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with two offences including sexual touching of a female aged 13 or over.

Manzoor Hassan, 37, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with four offences including inciting the sexual exploitation of a child aged between 13-17.

Third trial set to last for six weeks.

Niaz Ahmed, 53, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with three offences including sexual assault on a female.

Mohammed Imran Ibrar, 32, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with four offences including arranging the commission of a child sex offence.

Asif Bashir, 32, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with five offences, including three counts of raping a woman 16 or over.

Everton la Bastide, 50, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with two offences including sexual touching a girl of 13 or over.

Saqib Raheel, 30, from Dudley was charged with two offences including trafficking for sexual exploitation.

Usman Khalid, 29, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with three offences including assaulting a girl under 13.

Aleem Javaid, 27, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with two offences including supply of a class B drug.

Mrs Naveeda Habib, 38, from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged on one count of neglect of a child.

Mrs Shahnaz Malik, 55 from Huddersfield, West Yorks., was charged with one count of neglecting a child.
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16   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 27, 4:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
go Trump and MAGA!


That would be the trump that was doing such an excellent job protecting the free speech rights of NFL players? That trump? We talking about the same guy here? Oh right, it's different when there is free speech trump doesn't like. You were speaking of fascism I believe.

Ever hear about glass houses and throwing stones?
17   Hassan_Rouhani   ignore (2)   2018 May 27, 4:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
protecting the free speech rights of NFL players


From what?
18   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 5:42am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
If I have to explain then you won't understand anyway

Nah it is clear you don't understand the 1st amendment. In the elftoid universe, leftoids can say anything they want, but if someone questions them and says something back-oh my god demonizing, 1st amendment. Stupid leftoids can't grapple that 1st amendment menas both sides get to speak their minds and not one side gets to say what they want and the other just shuts up and takes it.

Yeah arresting someone for 13 months for exposing Muslim rape of children is the same as Trump calling out some libtard fool in his twitter feed. leftists.
19   HEYYOU   ignore (13)   2018 May 27, 9:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Donald Trump is a 5 time draft dodging,lying, adulterer.
He wants to honor the flag while others have died,are dying for the flag.
He loves America as long as others fight & die for his freedom & money.
They knew theses things about him when they voted.
What does that say about his voters? Stupid?

The future holds a lot of excitement so everyone,use your psychic abilities & tell me what will happen tomorrow.

Independents rule!
20   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 May 27, 10:13am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
bob2356 says
Quigley says
Totalitarianism.


Remember that totalitarianism always starts with undercutting and demonizing the press. Think about that whilel crying fake news.


That's totally legit - as long as you don't arrest people from the press or limit their right to free speech/reporting you can call them what you want. Seriously can't deflect to Trumps harmless feud with the press here.


Yeah that's very weak, also just wrong. Totalitarianism starts w controlling the pillars of propaganda: press, education, and workplace HR decisions. The left is aggressively pushing for tyranny in the West. This may get ugly. Expect deaths and discontent until the left starts to gain realistic perspective again and drop the cult of diversity.
21   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 27, 10:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

lostand confused says
Nah it is clear you don't understand the 1st amendment. In the elftoid universe, leftoids can say anything they want, but if someone questions them and says something back-oh my god demonizing, 1st amendment. Stupid leftoids can't grapple that 1st amendment menas both sides get to speak their minds and not one side gets to say what they want and the other just shuts up and takes it.


The first amendment that says
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That first amendment? The one that says congress shall make no laws? That the one we are talking about not understanding? The one that says nothing about butt hurt demonizing. The first amendment that would mean MAKING NO LAW to punish teams for allowing players to kneel as trump has called for. That first amendment I don't understand?

What did you think the first amendment said out of curiosity?
22   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 27, 10:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CBOEtrader says
. Totalitarianism starts w controlling the pillars of propaganda: press, education, and workplace HR decisions


No it doesn't. It starts with delegitimizing the press to the point where it can be replaced with state sponsored propaganda. Like trump and Hannity conferring on taking points every day.
23   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 10:50am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
That first amendment? The one that says congress shall make no laws?


I’m pretty sure that Congress has made no laws with respect to NFL players speech. Neither has Trump. But go on with your fake news. It’s all you ever post here anymore.

Oh and it’s TOTALLY a fair comparison between Trump complaining about negative press coverage and England locking up a member of the press for REPORTING on a trial in progress!

Idjits everywhere. People whose brains are damaged somehow and
Can’t Understand Normal Thinking!
24   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 May 27, 11:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
LOL-tell me what law was passed by congress-LOLZ!!!!!!!!!
25   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 May 27, 3:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Why aren't real AMERICA!ns air dropping M134 to besieged Brits to defend their communities from rape-crazed ISIS fucks?
26   mell   ignore (1)   2018 May 27, 3:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Why aren't real AMERICA!ns air dropping M134 to besieged Brits to defend their communities from rape-crazed ISIS fucks?


Cause they don't care for the brits anymore. Sadly there's not much brotherly love left.
27   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 May 27, 3:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

mell says
Cause they don't care for the brits anymore. Sadly there's not much brotherly love left.


Shame. Elgar and Holst had a lot to say and brought orchestral literature forward in meaningful ways.
32   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 7:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
Remember that totalitarianism always starts with undercutting and demonizing the press. Think about that whilel crying fake news.


Remember that totalitarianism begins wroth a biased press that attacks any and all reformers
33   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 28, 7:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
I’m pretty sure that Congress has made no laws with respect to NFL players speech. Neither has Trump. But go on with your fake news. It’s all you ever post here anymore.

Oh and it’s TOTALLY a fair comparison between Trump complaining about negative press coverage and England locking up a member of the press for REPORTING on a trial in progress!


Nice totally bogus straw man. Trump called for congress to pass laws punishing NFL teams. No one every said congress did it. But hey keep making shit up.

A member of the press under court order not to report on the case willingly and knowingly committed contempt of court. So should the press be exempt from laws? Should they be able to kick down your door to get a story? Want to give a list of which laws should apply to the press and which shouldn't?

You are right it's not at all a fair comparison. The president calling on congress to use government power to punish speech he didn't like is much much worse.
34   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 7:14am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says

Remember that totalitarianism begins wroth a biased press that attacks any and all reformers


It does? Examples?
35   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 28, 7:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Remember that totalitarianism begins wroth a biased press that attacks any and all reformers


total bullshit. totaliatarian regimes destroy the independent press and replace it with with propaganda machines they control. want to point out any place on the globe an independent press is supporting a totalitarian regime? Reporters who speak the truth about totalitarian regimes end up dead.
36   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 7:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Total true shit. The magnates that control the press always push against reform. Fortunately the USA is lucky it happens in spite of them.

Bezos owns the wapo as a mouthpiece flow his massive low tariff dependent import business. And the editors know it. And the reporters just got told to suck it, too.
37   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 7:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Total true shit. The magnates that control the press always push against reform. Fortunately the USA is lucky it happens in spite of them.

Bezos owns the wapo as a mouthpiece flow his massive low tariff dependent import business. And the editors know it. And the reporters just got told to suck it, too.


No, it's bullshit. The way a totalitarian regime works is to delegitimize public institutions like the free press, so the regime is free to spread its lies without being called on them. Eventually, the regime takes over the press entirely and it becomes a mouthpiece of the government.

Trump is following the plan like clockwork. His goal is obviously to make FOX the State run press.
38   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 8:12am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
public institutions like the free press,


And maybe you’d have a point if the press was a public institution. But it’s privately owned, controlled by a few billionaires with clear agendas, and if you think that spells “free press,” you’ll eat horse shit if they tell you it’s green soufflé. What the oligarch-controlled press is, is a propaganda wing of the aristocracy. You can tell by the way they want things to continue on the way they’ve been going.

Here’s where you insert some silly bathroom or sports rules to set against economic rules that ACTUALLY matter. If Trayshawn can’t protest the white man keeping him down as he earns $300,000 for playing one game, then all is lost and freedom has no meaning!
39   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 8:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
If Trayshawn can’t protest the white man keeping him down as he earns $300,000 for playing one game, then all is lost and freedom has no meaning!


Ah yes, I forgot. Only poor white folks can legally protest.

Once you make a decent living, you give up the right to free speech. (Unless your name is Adelson, of course).
40   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 28, 9:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
And maybe you’d have a point if the press was a public institution. But it’s privately owned, controlled by a few billionaires with clear agendas, and if you think that spells “free press,” you’ll eat horse shit if they tell you it’s green soufflé. What the oligarch-controlled press is, is a propaganda wing of the aristocracy. You can tell by the way they want things to continue on the way they’ve been going.


which oligarch controlled press are we talking about? The msm or the right wing echo chamber? Trump seems rather fond of one set of oligarch controlled press. The one that parrots him. So let me get this straight. Oligarch controlled media is bad if trump doesn't like them and good if trump does like them. Got it. Perfect. Ever cone across the word hypocrisy in your travels? Apparently not.

Quigley says
If Trayshawn can’t protest the white man keeping him down as he earns $300,000 for playing one game, then all is lost and freedom has no meaning!


You never got back with which laws the press should obey. Now you want to get into selecting which people can speak out and who can't t. The supreme leader chooses who has to obey the law who has rights and who doesn't? There's a word for that and it start with T and ends with ism. When you are in a hole stop digging.
41   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 10:57am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

LeonDurham says
TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Total true shit. The magnates that control the press always push against reform. Fortunately the USA is lucky it happens in spite of them.

Bezos owns the wapo as a mouthpiece flow his massive low tariff dependent import business. And the editors know it. And the reporters just got told to suck it, too.


No, it's bullshit. The way a totalitarian regime works is to delegitimize public institutions like the free press, so the regime is free to spread its lies without being called on them. Eventually, the regime takes over the press entirely and it becomes a mouthpiece of the government.

Trump is following the plan like clockwork. His goal is obviously to make FOX the State run press.


Liberals 1950-2016: you can't trust the press. Ever consolidating media huge danger to republic. Insiders leak misleading info to help or hinder certain policies.

Liberals 2016-: Nevermind that shit, Stop Trump! Whatever it takes! All criticism of media dangerous!
42   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 11:10am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
You never got back with which laws the press should obey.


Considering that Tommy is in trouble with the laws of a nation that does NOT have a First Ammendment, the point is irrelevant. He has no free speech or free press rights, and he knew that. It may be sad, and the UK government’s actions might be morally indefensible, but that is sadly the law of their land.

The rest of us freedom lovers are just pointing to this example and saying, “See? This is what can happen when there are no constitutional protections of speech and press! This is the tyranny that results! We must never abandon our rights in favor of some promised “security” just as Ben Franklin said!
Never! Give up! Rights!

And no, Trump does not define my beliefs any more than Josef Stalin defines yours! We may have many points of agreement, just as you may agree with Stalin’s methods and madness, but I also disagree with much of what Trump says and does. His calls for restriction of the press seem whiny at best, and woefully ignorant of the situation at worst. He has no ability to defy the First Ammendment. There is no danger of that, and there never was.
43   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 12:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Wow, I was actually unaware that free speech is not in the British constitution. It's not there because they do not even have a constitution!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/07/jimmy-wales-uk-first-amendment-whistleblowers

Britain should introduce its own constitution with an enshrined right to freedom of speech similar to that of the US to ensure that whistleblowers can come forward, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales has said.

He said that doing so would help prevent governments from cracking down on media organisations that wanted to publish potentially damaging stories.

"One of the big differences between the US and the UK is the first amendment, so the idea of smashing computers in the basement of the New York Times is basically inconceivable," he said, referring to the British government's demand that the Guardian destroy hard-drives used to store Edward Snowden's secret files.

"One of the important things about the US is that something like the first amendment and the rest of the Bill of Rights is very difficult to change – whereas here, it's not so easy to construct something that's difficult to change. Parliament can ultimately change anything with a majority vote and that's that."
44   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 12:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says


Liberals 1950-2016: you can't trust the press. Ever consolidating media huge danger to republic. Insiders leak misleading info to help or hinder certain policies.

Liberals 2016-: Nevermind that shit, Stop Trump! Whatever it takes! All criticism of media dangerous!


So predictable. Again with the strawman arguments. Again telling me what "liberals" believe.

Again trying to point out hypocrisy in others, when Trumpkins are the living embodiment of hypocrisy. So sad.

The only thing missing is the reference to Hillary. I'm sure that's coming soon.
45   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 1:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Not a strawman.

Haven't lefties been screaming bloody murder for years about consolidation of media and their corporatism, globalist bias? All my life, going back to the 80s.

Now all of a sudden, any criticism of the media is extremist and the media is only composed of honest and correct viewpoints.
46   Aphroman   ignore (4)   2018 May 28, 1:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Trump is good i like him and it feels that he likes me

#MAGA

Damn Liberals ruined everything
47   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 1:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Aphroman says
Trump is good i like him and it feels that he likes me


The media has always been great and still is. Eat your yellowcake
48   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 1:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Not a strawman.

Haven't lefties been screaming bloody murder for years about consolidation of media and their corporatism, globalist bias? All my life, going back to the 80s.

Now all of a sudden, any criticism of the media is extremist and the media is only composed of honest and correct viewpoints.


Absolutely a strawman. You are purposely misstating the viewpoints of others in an attempt to knock down that strawman. It's all Trumpkins have.

#1-- Nobody is saying any criticism of media is extremist. That's a lie.
#2-- Nobody is saying the media is only composed of honest and correct viewpoints. That's a lie.
#3-- Some liberals have bemoaned the growing corporatism and consolidation of media outlets. Like Sinclair forcing news anchors to spout their propaganda on the air:

http://mindy-fischer-writer.com/2018/03/sinclair-forcing-news-anchors-read-propaganda-slamming-one-sided-news-stories/

The problem is with Trump and his minions that lie continuously and try to mislead people to cover their lies. Like this:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/389526-audio-revealed-from-source-trump-claimed-doesnt-exist

"An audio recording of a conversation between reporters and a senior White House official released Saturday disproved President Trump's claims that a source quoted by The New York Times "doesn't exist."
49   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 28, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
The rest of us freedom lovers are just pointing to this example and saying, “See? This is what can happen when there are no constitutional protections of speech and press! This is the tyranny that results! We must never abandon our rights in favor of some promised “security” just as Ben Franklin said!
Never! Give up! Rights!


So what are the constitutional protections that exist to protect a person willfully committing contempt of court? Last time I read the constitution that wasn't mentioned. Did I miss it somehow?

Quigley says
And no, Trump does not define my beliefs any more than Josef Stalin defines yours! We may have many points of agreement, just as you may agree with Stalin’s methods and madness, but I also disagree with much of what Trump says and does. His calls for restriction of the press seem whiny at best, and woefully ignorant of the situation at worst. He has no ability to defy the First Ammendment. There is no danger of that, and there never was.


ROFLOL. Better check my old posts. I'm a staunch believer in constitutional rights. I'm also a staunch believer in obeying the law and not trying to dummy up some phony "rights" to make non existent fake hysteria.

Of course he has the ability to defy the first amendment. He sighs bills. Congress has been chipping away at rights for a long time. The conservative wing of the supreme court has been going along just fine and there have bee some really head scratching anti rights rulings the last 20 years. If you think you have the same rights you did 30 years ago then you have been a good kool aide drinker.
50   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
The media has always been great and all is. Eat your yellowcake


And more strawman arguments. See-liberals criticize media when they deserve criticism, and defend media when they deserve defending.
51   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 May 28, 1:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
The media has always been great and all is. Eat your yellowcake


If you can't make a point then throw out nonsense.
52   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 1:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

My remarks are absolutely relevant.

Just today no less than 3 verified twitter blue checks tweeted a picture from 2014 and blamed Trump before their hasty deletion.

We still don't have an answer about how 3 outlets published fake dates to a Wikileaks email last December on the same day

Maybe the establishment media shouldn't rush before checking things out.

Their bias says it's true so they don't bother.

More evidence for my theory.
53   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 1:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
The media has always been great and all is. Eat your yellowcake


If you can't make a point then throw out nonsense.


Delicious yellowcake

At Jason Blairs cafe

Just across from the frat house where Jackie was raped

WhIle studying the national guard memos written in MS Word in the 1970s
54   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 May 28, 1:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Freedom is America’s invention. Liberals just don’t appreciate opportunities it provides. They don’t understand what second amendment defends against. Too sheltered and dumb.

Smart people use freedom to open business, stupid once use it to promote sjw stupidity.
55   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 May 28, 2:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Delicious yellowcake


The funny thing is that this is an example of the good of media. There were many outlets that doubted the yellowcake story and printed such.

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