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118   jazz_music   ignore (3)   2018 May 30, 11:36am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Oh well at least Rosanne made some very thorough and humble apologies for what she said very promptly over twitter.

A bunch of Rosanne's key staffers, writer, etc. were already quitting the show before the incident. Could it be this was a fortunate excuse to cancel a show that was falling apart even as they were pulling it together? ... and conveniently lend a high profile virtuous image to the network.
119   jazz_music   ignore (3)   2018 May 30, 12:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Feux Follets says
using the same words that were in use then but still in use today amongst a large segment of the population and a majority of a certain block of voters.

The article today says that the Rosanne show was meant to represent Trump voters demographic and offer a platform to discuss current events from their point of view.

I guess she was trying to wax edgy and controversial in promotion of the coming show and drastically underestimated the ensuing outcry PROBABLY because with the era of Trump, white nationalism is normalized now at least to some degree in the mainstream as never before in my lifetime.

White male victimhood is in mainstream.
120   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 May 30, 1:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Aphroman says
Yea well my grandfathers and uncles went to war with the nips and the gooks, and now we’re pretty much at war with the chinks, so I’m not sure that it’s very Patriotic to be bringing the enemy here to the motherland, and breeding with them

But you go ahead and defend Roseanne and Trumpublicans who hate Blacks and Mexicans, because you are in direct competition with the lowest rung of labor, and are oddly jealous of blacks and Mexicans


Saved this post. I’ll trot it out for every single post you make in the future. Just so that every reader will know what kind of racist asshole wrote it.


You’re calling my grandfathers and uncles racist assholes for going to war on behalf of America? What country are you from?
124   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 4:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Feux Follets says

“Nothing to get one's drawers in a knot over unless you realize the person who wrote this is taking a not so subtle swipe at the "enlightened" Trump supporters on the forum simply using the same words that were in use then but still in use today amongst a large segment of the population and a majority of a certain block of voters.”


Let’s see, you’re saying that racial epithets are okay because they were used commonly sixty years ago? That’s an interesting point to be making.
And further, you claim that calling someone a traitor over the ethnicity of his spouse is fine?
125   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 4:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How embarrassing for you!
126   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 4:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

You two libtards have lost ALL credibility with those remarks. All moral authority... POOF! Gone.
127   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 4:53pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Mad as I am about the horrible racism displayed on this thread by Aphroman and Feux, I support freedom of speech so they can say what they wish. I’d never support censoring speech because it offends someone, which is a much different approach than they’ve taken many times in the past.
128   cynn   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 6:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Well, I'm really fucking up here, but I am trying to tell Quigley to take those posts in context. Oh, never mind... four tries and Patnet won't let me post.
129   HowdyThere   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 6:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Roseanne should have claimed that her account was hacked. With all the recent examples of plausible deniability, how could she be so stupid? She drifted into politics and proved she's a pathetic amateur.
130   cynn   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 6:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Uh, oh, please be prepared for a barrage of posts because I thought I was blocked...
131   DASKAA   ignore (3)   2018 May 30, 6:39pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BoomAndBustCycle says
since our ancestors enslaved them for centuries.


Speak for yourself: my ancestors didn't enslave anyone.
132   mell   ignore (2)   2018 May 30, 6:52pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The last thing ABC stands for is supporting someone who tweets awful things... Now over to Keith Olbermann with sports...

#leftoidhypocrisy
135   jazz_music   ignore (3)   2018 May 30, 8:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HowdyThere says
proved she's a pathetic amateur.

She can't get away with the shit that comes out of Trump's mouth because she doesn't have the country numb to her doing it every day yet.
136   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 8:36pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hassan_Rouhani says
BoomAndBustCycle says
since our ancestors enslaved them for centuries.


Speak for yourself: my ancestors didn't enslave anyone.


Likewise, none of my ancestors enslaved anyone.
137   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 May 30, 8:38pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, how come everytime Harvey Weinstein is mentioned for the first time in a story, we don't see the important appendage "fervent Clinton/Democrat supporter."?
138   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 8:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sorry I had to delete some personal attacks. Please, let's keep it about anything except the other users personally.
139   mell   ignore (2)   2018 May 30, 9:12pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Hassan_Rouhani says
BoomAndBustCycle says
since our ancestors enslaved them for centuries.


Speak for yourself: my ancestors didn't enslave anyone.


Likewise, none of my ancestors enslaved anyone.


Thirded. Group guilt is bullshit.
140   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 10:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I never liked Roseanne when I was a kid. Never watched her show. Just thought she was some crabby old fat lady. Sort of remember some outrage when she grabbed her crotch during the National Anthem but I didn't see it. That sort of sealed it for me.

Now I WUV her!

WTF is so wrong with the comment. It's funny as shit! Is Valerie black or something? She sure doesn't look like it. She definitely looks like that chimp lady from planet of the apes which to me didn't seem based on black people. Maybe the darker apes but not the chimps or the orangs.

People need to get a life and stop being such sensitive hypocrites!

FUN! EE!
141   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 30, 10:26pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
Group guilt is bullshit.


In fact, blaming people simply by their membership in an ethnic group is the perfect definition of racism.

So anyone who accuses "whites" of racism simply because they are white is actually the perfect definition of a racist himself.

Someone with a lot of insight noted this exact same behavior way back in about the year 33 AD:

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
142   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 May 31, 12:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just_passing_through says
People need to get a life and stop being such sensitive hypocrites!


IT's true. But at the same time, I don't think ABC can be blamed for not tolerating such trollish nastiness from their big star. THey have an image to maintain (like starbucks - it's business partially - public relations ) and they actually need to be sensitive about promoting civility and some semblance of manners in the public sphere.

Somebody has to take action towards turning the ugliness of online and social media discourse around.

Our President certainly isn't going to set an example for the people. What, should we just root for a cold civil war getting ever worse (term suggested by the the commentary Hericlitus poster in another thread (Dan Calrlin) ).

This could be framed as a backlash against the kind of online ugliness promoted by Russian trolls some of which possibly occur as comments here on Patrick.net by people (I ignore) posing as programmers. You can tell what their goals are, by the degree to which they've pumped up the hate and invective since they got what they supposedly wanted, i.e., Trump kicked in. Not that a lot of the ugliness and hate promoted by trolls online isn't home grown.
143   willywonka   ignore (0)   2018 May 31, 5:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

What kind of parents would name their weird looking kid Valerie? Bad enough he is short and has a bad James Brown wig.
144   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2018 May 31, 8:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm all for seasoned American comediennes making fun of muslim brotherhood lovers.
145   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 May 31, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


Exactly.
146   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 May 31, 8:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This whole You can't say a black person looks a monkey but it's OK to say a White Person looks like an Orangutan.
Isn't racism on the offenders part, but it is pure hyperbole on the Liberal's part who does nothing to mitigate the Monkey claims.
They don't dispute the likeness, they instead defer you not to say that. Rather than calling it for what it is, hyperbole. And if the person who made those claims about primate likeness honestly believes that. Then they are ignorant and not worthy of any debate. Telling people it's OK to call white people primates, but not black people because you might hurt their fragile feelings. Just perpetuates the whole Eugenics debate. Which Liberals want they get a lot of political mileage out of that. Racist Fucks!
149   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 May 31, 10:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Update: All episodes of the Cosby show are streaming. Hulu has removed all episodes of the new Roseanne. "Raep Culture!!!"

The same people who were yesterday saying Roseanne made uncivil remarks, are defending Samantha Bee's calling Ivanka a "Feckless Cunt" today.
150   BradK   ignore (0)   2018 May 31, 10:17am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
Update: All episodes of the Cosby show are streaming. Hulu has removed all episodes of the new Roseanne. "Raep Culture!!!"
That's different. Cosby may be a convicted serial sexual predator (even without a private plane) but he's still a POC. There is a hierarchy of disenfranchisement which must be taken into account.

TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy says
The same people who were yesterday saying Roseanne made uncivil remarks, are defending Samantha Bee's calling Ivanka a "Feckless Cunt" today.

151   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 May 31, 10:19am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Update: Joy Reid promoted 9/11 Conspiracies, praised post calling for death of Ann Coulter. Still Employed.

Noted Civil Discourse Promoter Keith Olbermann rehired by Disney Empire.

155   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 1, 5:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Speaking of double standards and hypocrisy, Trump invited Ted Nugent to the White HOuse even though he called Hillary a "toxic Cunt."

So how all the outrage on the right about Samantha Bee ?

Nugent also said this about Clinton: “This bitch is nothing but a two-bit whore for Fidel Castro.”

Now that I think about it, could TPB be Ted Nugent ?

In Bee's case she apologized, saying that she had “crossed a line” and “deeply regret[s] it.” We can wait for hell to freeze over before Nugent apologizes and he'll probably be invited to the white house again, if he talks about killing liberals some more.
157   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 1, 6:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        



Who is this calm, reasonable, civil person?



Oh.

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