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So quick! It's almost as if they were planning this before the Iran Deal was cancelled.
What did you think would happen?
It's almost as if everything was prepped to go the moment the inspection regime expired.
TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy saysIt's almost as if everything was prepped to go the moment the inspection regime expired.
No kidding. Like I said--anyone with half a brain knew this decision was coming over a year ago.
But wouldn't the same happen when the deal would expire in 10 years? They clearly singal that they are after the bomb no matter what. So, how is letting them enjoy 10 years w/o sanctions, repair their economy and strenghten their regime is setting up the stage for Iran w/o the bomb? I understand why somebody like Obama would want this deal ("legacy" - now, while "le deluge" will come long "apres moi"), but overall it's a bad fucking deal.
Now would be a good time to take away Israel training wheels and see if they can cut it on their own. Americans can’t afford to waste so much protecting a shitty foreign Failed State.
Republicans have a strange affliction to giving away our goods to Israel, and also defending the people responsible for 9/11, like when Bush rushed the bin laden crew to safety in the moments after they took down the twin towers. Sad
Hassan_Rouhani says
But wouldn't the same happen when the deal would expire in 10 years? They clearly singal that they are after the bomb no matter what. So, how is letting them enjoy 10 years w/o sanctions, repair their economy and strenghten their regime is setting up the stage for Iran w/o the bomb? I understand why somebody like Obama would want this deal ("legacy" - now, while "le deluge" will come long "apres moi"), but overall it's a bad fucking deal.
I think the goal would be to help establish a democracy in Iran.
In any event 10 years with no bomb is better than 10 years with the bomb.
Now would be a good time to take away Israel training wheels and see if they can cut it on their own. Americans can’t afford to waste so much protecting a shitty foreign Failed State. Those resources would be better spent fighting back against enemy #1 Saudi Arabia
As opposed to the previous 50 years of sanctions? What did that get us?
Face it, the "Iran Deal" gave Iran free reign and billions of dollars to create alot of mischief in the Middle East causing alot of death and destruction.
But of course the Left now hates Israel. and thinks Gaza with it's Pizzerias, Multistory AC Malls, Massive Obesity Problem (3rd Fattest women, just behind Kuwait and Saudi Arabia), is being oppressed in an open-air prison.
I think the goal would be to help establish a democracy in Iran.
In any event 10 years with no bomb is better than 10 years with the bomb.
LeonDurham saysAs opposed to the previous 50 years of sanctions? What did that get us?
- We didn't have Iran tromping around Syria helping Assad and Putin gas Syrian Sunnis creating the biggest refugee crisis we have seen since WWII fucking up Europe.
- We didn't have Iran setting up missile sites in Syria launching rockets into Israel risking further regional war.
- We didn't have Iran fomenting civil war in Yemen causing massive humanitarian catastrophe.
Face it, the "Iran Deal" gave Iran free reign and billions of dollars to create alot of mischief in the Middle East causing alot of death and destruction.
Kicking the can down the road?
No bomb forever is the only acceptable scenario.
We didn't have Iran tromping around Syria helping Assad and Putin gas Syrian Sunnis creating the biggest refugee crisis we have seen since WWII fucking up Europe.
Great---how does ripping up the agreement achieve that?
Strategist says
Kicking the can down the road?
No bomb forever is the only acceptable scenario.
Great---how does ripping up the agreement achieve that?
Play time is over. No more one-sided agreements with the cash upfront, no ballistic missile development or deployment restrictions, and an inspection regime that quickly fades.
The clock is ticking.
Iran makes a better, stricter, and more enforceable deal or it gets the hose.
Sticking with the agreement does not achieve our goal. It actually brings Iran closer to nukes because they can continue their research, and implement a ballistic missile program.
We are now open to renegotiate. Either they agree to NO NUKES EVER, or we bomb their nukes if sanctions don't work.
Nukes in the hands of religious radicals can never be a good thing.
Strategist saysSticking with the agreement does not achieve our goal. It actually brings Iran closer to nukes because they can continue their research, and implement a ballistic missile program.
We are now open to renegotiate. Either they agree to NO NUKES EVER, or we bomb their nukes if sanctions don't work.
Nukes in the hands of religious radicals can never be a good thing.
Great-but that's not what I asked. How does ripping it up keep Iran from getting nukes?
Lets keep it simple. Ripping it up opens the way for us to enforce a zero nuke tolerance on Iran today. We will use military force to keep Iran from getting the nukes.
Again--how is that different than the 50 years before the agreement? When Iran moved closer and closer to getting nukes?
Strategist says
Lets keep it simple. Ripping it up opens the way for us to enforce a zero nuke tolerance on Iran today. We will use military force to keep Iran from getting the nukes.
Haven't we always had a zero tolerance? Are you willing to start another war in the Middle East with Iran?
Are you willing to start another war in the Middle East with Iran?
We can do it from the air, and if boots are needed, they will be Arab boots.
Yes. Because I don't want to see a nuclear war in the future. If we attack Iran, it will be to destroy their nukes and nothing else. We can do it from the air, and if boots are needed, they will be Arab boots.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/05/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-deal.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes