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20   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Jun 13, 11:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Aphroman says
Is it race baiting to point out that the war on Drugs was born of racism? Obviously perpetuated by racism.


Is it wrong to point out that abortion and the welfare state were born of racism and perpetuated by racism?
21   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 6:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
If race-baiting would be taken out of these resolutions, they would actually be pretty good.


But Ron Paul tho

I see where he is different from most Right Wingnuts, n that he isn’t afraid to speak the truth about the Republicans racist War on Drugs
22   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Jul 12, 6:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sergent!
Yes Captain!
Fire on the Rabble!
The small guns Sir?
No use the Bigins!
23   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 6:31am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman: If you want to have result in something like abolishing drug war, you need an inclusive message that everyone (or most people) can agree on. Some slogans, even if they were true 50 yrs ago, which feel good but drive away a large number of voters who are on fence about the issue, should not be used. Instead, find something that most can agree on and which is not divisive. Then perhaps do-gooders on right who want to control what other people do based on their own opinions of morality/religion will lose. If you succumb to emotions and slogans, you will lose.
24   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 6:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman: If you want to have result in something like abolishing drug war, you need an inclusive message that everyone (or most people) can agree on. Some slogans, even if they were true 50 yrs ago, which feel good but drive away a large number of voters who are on fence about the issue, should not be used. Instead, find something that most can agree on and which is not divisive. Then perhaps do-gooders on right who want to control what other people do based on their own opinions of morality/religion will lose. If you succumb to emotions and slogans, you will lose.


Why does speaking the truth about the racist motives that drive the war on drugs, need to be censored?

What kind of shitty excuse for an American needs to be lied to and treated with little kid gloves, to support doing the right thing?
25   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 7:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Why does speaking the truth about the racist motives that drive the war on drugs, need to be censored?

I do not think this is true. Drug on wars WAS driven by racism, but now it is not. It is driven by economics of prohibition (prison guards, pharma etc), and its effects fall more on minorities, but a rich minority will get off just as well as a rich white person.

Aphroman says
What kind of shitty excuse for an American needs to be lied to and treated with little kid gloves, to support doing the right thing


As I said, I believe your opinion is wrong. However, if one needs to get emotional satisfaction rather than results, then accusing majority of society of things they did not do is a way to go.
26   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 7:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman: If you want to have result in something like abolishing drug war, you need an inclusive message that everyone (or most people) can agree on. Some slogans, even if they were true 50 yrs ago, which feel good but drive away a large number of voters who are on fence about the issue, should not be used. Instead, find something that most can agree on and which is not divisive. Then perhaps do-gooders on right who want to control what other people do based on their own opinions of morality/religion will lose. If you succumb to emotions and slogans, you will lose.


You’re basically advocating a Safe Space for the Special ed Snowflakes. Fuck that, I don’t believe in political correctness. Especially in the name of shielding Christian Conservatives from the truth about their bigoted history


One of Richard Nixon's top advisers and a key figure in the Watergate scandal said the war on drugs was created as a political tool to fight blacks and hippies, according to a 22-year-old interview recently published in Harper's Magazine.

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
27   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 7:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
You’re basically advocating a Safe Space for the Special ed Snowflakes. Fuck that, I don’t believe in political correctness. Especially in the name of shielding Christian Conservatives from the truth about their bigoted history

No, I am just saying that (1) drug war now is not based on race and saying that it is, is very counterproductive (and both of us agree that 50 yrs ago it WAS based on race), and (2) instead of yelling "everyone other than me is stupid", perhaps it is worth discussing issues such as this one without emotions. Facts simply can not support war on drugs, unless one wants communism and state control of personal liberties.

There are plenty issues which do not matter, such as JESUS! in schools, where we can let our emotions fly high and accuse opponents of being either JESUS freaks or INFIDELS..
28   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 7:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
You’re basically advocating a Safe Space for the Special ed Snowflakes. Fuck that, I don’t believe in political correctness. Especially in the name of shielding Christian Conservatives from the truth about their bigoted history

No, I am just saying that (1) drug war now is not based on race and saying that it is, is very counterproductive (and both of us agree that 50 yrs ago it WAS based on race), and (2) instead of yelling "everyone other than me is stupid", perhaps it is worth discussing issues such as this one without emotions. Facts simply can not support war on drugs, unless one wants communism and state control of personal liberties.

There are plenty issues which do not matter, such as JESUS! in schools, where we can let our emotions fly high and accuse opponents of being either JESUS freaks or INFIDELS..


When did it stop being about race? I and everyone fighting the good fight missed the memo.

I don’t find emotions in well known, obvious facts, however the fact that the War on Drugs is based on racism seems to be a trigger for you. Why is that?

I’m curious as hell why you feel that now all of a sudden it isn’t about race. I get that they’re less open about it, but bigotry is out of style so most know to be less open about it nowadays
29   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 8:47am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
When did it stop being about race? I and everyone fighting the good fight missed the memo.

I have not seen proof that it is about the race NOW. I have seen proof that it was about race 50 yrs ago. I also have seen proof that it is about being poor now (as in sentencing celebrities to rehab vs. average Joe to jailtime). Until I have seen such proof, I will keep considering that primary cause (besides stupidity) for War against Drugs currently is economics.
30   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 12, 9:26am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tell your homies in da hood to give up their drugs, get jobs, and stop being oppressed.
Hah! Too bad that’ll never happen.
And it really is too bad.
We need criminal negros like we need Muslim terrorists: not at all.
31   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 12, 9:40am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Next will be black obesity caused by white racism.
32   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 10:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The victim card's florid mythology needs new chapters, and new heights of hyperbole!
33   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 11:13am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Tell your homies in da hood to give up their drugs, get jobs, and stop being oppressed.

These days, racial distribution of drug users is changing fast.

Studying data from the Centers for Disease Control, The New York Times writes that because of the number of white Americans aged 25-34 dying from heroin and prescription medication overdoses, theirs is the first generation since the Vietnam War “to experience higher death rates in early adulthood than the generation preceding it.” The chief medical officer of a nonprofit treatment institution that has facilities in 10 states tells Vice (in an article entitled “Heroin Kills More White People Than Anyone Else”) that the wave of heroin fatalities, powered by exposure to prescription opioids like OxyContin and Vicodin, “has hit every white socioeconomic class.” In “a retrospective analysis of the past 50 years,” the American Medical Association’s JAMA Psychiatry found that heroin users are “primarily white men and women.” Figures released by the Centers for Disease Control have found that heroin use has doubled among white Americans, and, in particular, female white Americans.

The rise of the prescription painkiller epidemic has changed the public perception of drug addiction in the United States, especially as it pertains to race. The Economist writes of how a generation ago, the common image of a drug user was usually a poor African American living under a bridge. Today, “the face of heroin use in America has changed utterly,” and is more likely to be white, female, and living in an affluent suburb.

This also shows that "war against drugs" is not based on race any more.
34   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 11:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Quigley says
Tell your homies in da hood to give up their drugs, get jobs, and stop being oppressed.

These days, racial distribution of drug users is changing fast.

Studying data from the Centers for Disease Control, The New York Times writes that because of the number of white Americans aged 25-34 dying from heroin and prescription medication overdoses, theirs is the first generation since the Vietnam War “to experience higher death rates in early adulthood than the generation preceding it.” The chief medical officer of a nonprofit treatment institution that has facilities in 10 states tells Vice (in an article entitled “Heroin Kills More White People Than Anyone Else”) that the wave of heroin fatalities, powered by exposure to prescription opioids like OxyContin and Vicodin, “has hit every white socioeconomic class.” In “a retrospective analysis of the past 50 years,” the American Medical ...


How do you figure it does that?

When it was crack cocaine a young black male could get 20 years in prison for having a one nite supply of the drug in his possession

Now that it’s primarily white peoples hooked on heroin, it’s a public health issue we must sympathize, subsidize and virtue signal over.

What year did The War on Drugs stop being about race?
35   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 11:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Tell your homies in da hood to give up their drugs, get jobs, and stop being oppressed.
Hah! Too bad that’ll never happen.
And it really is too bad.
We need criminal negros like we need Muslim terrorists: not at all.


Stay classy, pal
36   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 11:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Next will be black obesity caused by white racism.


How does that have anything to do with the topic at hand?

Why is Ron Paul lying about The War on Drugs being born and perpetuated in bigotry?
37   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 11:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ron Paul was saying that the War on Drugs was based on racism as recently as 2007.

So was it 2008 when all of a sudden, miraculously, they removed the racist part of The War, yet kept everything else in tact?

38   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 11:51am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Ron Paul was saying that the War on Drugs was based on racism as recently as 2007.

He said that blacks suffer disproportionately because of war on drugs. That is not the same as saying that war on drugs is based on racism. Similarly, men suffer more from war on drugs than women - is one of reasons for war on drugs sexism also?
Aphroman says
When it was crack cocaine a young black male could get 20 years in prison for having a one nite supply of the drug in his possession

Now that it’s primarily white peoples hooked on heroin, it’s a public health issue we must sympathize, subsidize and virtue signal over.

What year did The War on Drugs stop being about race?


Poor vs. middle class or rich is the reason for 20 yrs vs. probation. The reason why more and more people think it is a "public health issue" is probably related to knowing someone who is hooked on drugs in their circle of friends.
I am sure Whitney Houston, Oprah, and Samuel Jackson did lots of hard time due to their drug use because they are minority...oops...they were rich so it wasnothing, just like for white celebs.
Still waiting for proof that war on drugs is based on racism (and not sexism, for example).
39   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 12, 11:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The left-they lose even when they are supporting a position that si right-why , why are they this dense.
40   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 12, 12:09pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
RC2006 says
Next will be black obesity caused by white racism.


How does that have anything to do with the topic at hand?

Why is Ron Paul lying about The War on Drugs being born and perpetuated in bigotry?


Because the war on drugs has nothing to do with race it was suppose to stop an epidemic of drug abuse with everyone even though it failed horribly. Blacks just got caught up in it more and use racism as an excuse. Every black failing is turned into something about racism instead of taking account of the situation and fixing it.

People are getting fatigued by the race card being used for every failing by blacks. If we had a war on murder, stealing, aids, abortions, and violence blacks would be caught up in it more than anyone else. At some point a people have to change or stop complaining about it or people will still be debating in another 100 years from now and nothing will be fixed. Blacks are their own worst enemy.
41   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 12:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
Ron Paul was saying that the War on Drugs was based on racism as recently as 2007.

He said that blacks suffer disproportionately because of war on drugs. That is not the same as saying that war on drugs is based on racism. Similarly, men suffer more from war on drugs than women - is one of reasons for war on drugs sexism also?
Aphroman says
When it was crack cocaine a young black male could get 20 years in prison for having a one nite supply of the drug in his possession

Now that it’s primarily white peoples hooked on heroin, it’s a public health issue we must sympathize, subsidize and virtue signal over.

What year did The War on Drugs stop being about race?


Poor vs. middle class or rich is the reason for 20 yrs vs. probation. The reason why more and more people think it is a...


you said it yourself that the War on Drugs was born of Racism.

Henry Anslinger didn't hide it at all, he sold it as the brown invaders from the south go crazy on "Marihuana"


This sure seems like admitting that it's about Racism:

One of Richard Nixon's top advisers and a key figure in the Watergate scandal said the war on drugs was created as a political tool to fight blacks and hippies, according to a 22-year-old interview recently published in Harper's Magazine.

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."


I'm begging you to just answer on question!

When did it stop being about racism, and start being exactly the same as it ever was, but no longer racist?
42   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 12:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
The left-they lose even when they are supporting a position that si right-why , why are they this dense.


How do you figure?
43   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 12:22pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

From drugwarfacts.org:

"More than half (56% or 6,300) of female federal prisoners were serving sentences for a drug offense, compared to 47% of males (75,600)."

Twelve times more more males than females are in prison due to drug offenses. OMG, this is war against men and sexism!
44   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 12:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
From drugwarfacts.org:

"More than half (56% or 6,300) of female federal prisoners were serving sentences for a drug offense, compared to 47% of males (75,600)."

Twelve times more more males than females are in prison due to drug offenses. OMG, this is war against men and sexism!


Will you please just answer my one simple question?

When did the war on drugs stop being about Racism?
45   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 12:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Will you please just answer my one simple question?

When did the war on drugs stop being about Racism?


I do not know answer to that question. Probably some time between 1974 and 2000.

What I do know is that currently I do not see that war against drugs is perpetuated by racism.

Will you give me some proof that war against drugs is perpetuated by racism now (as opposed to 50 years ago)? And if it is a game of numbers, then why is it not sexism?
46   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 12:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Aphroman says
RC2006 says
Next will be black obesity caused by white racism.


How does that have anything to do with the topic at hand?

Why is Ron Paul lying about The War on Drugs being born and perpetuated in bigotry?


Because the war on drugs has nothing to do with race it was suppose to stop an epidemic of drug abuse with everyone even though it failed horribly. Blacks just got caught up in it more and use racism as an excuse. Every black failing is turned into something about racism instead of taking account of the situation and fixing it.

People are getting fatigued by the race card being used for every failing by blacks. If we had a war on murder, stealing, aids, abortions, and violence blacks would be caught up in it more than anyone else. At some point a people have to change or stop c...


I’m sorry but that’s not true at all

The War on Drugs started back in the 1930’s with Hemp/Cannabis Prohibition.

Henry Anslinger quote: “Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men”

“There are 100k total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others”

“The primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races”


Henry Anslinger was the 1st Commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, who ushered in Prohibition



Then you have top Nixon adviser John Ehrlichman saying: “The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities.” “We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did”

Sounds pretty racist to me.

What is the hang up with giving it an honest assessment, but when it’s as obvious as it can be that it’s based in racism, you guys have to deny it, and claim that pointing out that it’s racist is the weong thing to do

Doesn’t make any sense.

What is the value in lying about it?

I’m not accusing anyone here of being racist. Hell, most seem to want to end The War on Drugs. But for some bizarre reason it’s not okay to speak the truth about the role of Racism in the War on Drugs. Absurd
47   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 12:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
Will you please just answer my one simple question?

When did the war on drugs stop being about Racism?


I do not know answer to that question. Probably some time between 1974 and 2000.

What I do know is that currently I do not see that war against drugs is perpetuated by racism.

Will you give me some proof that war against drugs is perpetuated by racism now (as opposed to 50 years ago)?


What more proof do you need?

It was born of racism. I provided the quotes straight from the mouth of the man who ushered in Prohibition.

It thrived and survived based on racism. Do you not know American history and the Race Wars of the late 60’s?

What reasonable person would argue that magically it stayed in tact, except the racist aspect mysteriously went away?

I don’t even know how to discuss it. It’s no wonder the political climate is what it is today

In the face of indisputable facts, the response is “nah ah!” Not racist!!
48   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 12:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
Will you please just answer my one simple question?

When did the war on drugs stop being about Racism?


I do not know answer to that question. Probably some time between 1974 and 2000.

What I do know is that currently I do not see that war against drugs is perpetuated by racism.

Will you give me some proof that war against drugs is perpetuated by racism now (as opposed to 50 years ago)?


What happened between 1974-2000 that ushered in this brand new era of War on Drugs: Everything the same, except now, no more racism!?

Why were sentences literally 100x more harsh for cooked cocaine (crack) vs powder cocaine?

Merely coincidence that it was mostly all blacks getting imprisoned for Crack, while whites partied fairly openly with powder cocaine, with no repercussions?
49   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 12:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
What more proof do you need?

You have not provided any proof for racism in war of drugs today.

Aphroman says
It was born of racism. I provided the quotes straight from the mouth of the man who ushered in Prohibition.

That is 100% clear. I would add religious fanaticism also to causes.

Aphroman says
What reasonable person would argue that magically it stayed in tact, except the racist aspect mysteriously went away?

Racism aspect has gone away or at least is severely decreased in most aspects of American life. Why not in war on drugs? Economic reasons are sufficient to perpetuate it now.

Aphroman says
What happened between 1974-2000 that ushered in this brand new era of War on Drugs: Everything the same, except now, no more racism!?

Perhaps society changed to a better as in being less racist.

Aphroman says
Why were sentences literally 100x more harsh for cooked cocaine (crack) vs powder cocaine?


Poor vs rich is a sufficient explanation -- rich will use powder. If poor whites with crack cocaine get smaller prison terms than poor blacks, then it would be racism.

I still do not see any real proof of racism in war against drugs NOW as opposed to racism 50 years ago. Due to this, we will have to agree to disagree on current reason for war on drugs while agreeing on fact that it is stupid, criminal, and immoral and should be ended immediately.
50   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 1:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
What more proof do you need?

You have not provided any proof for racism in war of drugs today.

Aphroman says
It was born of racism. I provided the quotes straight from the mouth of the man who ushered in Prohibition.

That is 100% clear. I would add religious fanaticism also to causes.

Aphroman says
What reasonable person would argue that magically it stayed in tact, except the racist aspect mysteriously went away?

Racism aspect has gone away or at least is severely decreased in most aspects of American life. Why not in war on drugs? Economic reasons are sufficient to perpetuate it now.

Aphroman says
What happened ...


The onus is on you to provide some evidence, ANY evidence that something changed.

Your claim is literally “it is 100% clear that the War on Drugs was born of racism. Somewhere between 1974-2000, we dropped the racism aspect and kept everything else. We just silently kinda switched it to being not racist anymore”

You provided NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support YOUR claim.
51   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 12, 1:06pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

They shouldn't have to apologize! Just give their home addresses to a bunch of roided out frat bros, give the bros some tactical armor, flash grenades, and AK's, and have them pay a visit in the middle of the night.
52   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 1:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
You provided NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support YOUR claim.

Neither have you. Also, normally one should provide proof of crime (racism, in this case), and not proof for absence of crime.
54   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 1:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
You provided NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support YOUR claim.

Neither have you. Also, normally one should provide proof of crime (racism, in this case), and not proof for absence of crime.


We both agreed that the War on Drugs was born of racism

I provided plenty of evidence, even though it’s a well known fact.

You are the one making the claim that something changed. You don’t know what, or when, but I’m supposed to somehow prove that nothing changed. Is that even possible to do? How could i prove that the same War on Drugs that we both agree is born of racism, is still about racism?
55   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 1:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
You provided NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support YOUR claim.

Neither have you. Also, normally one should provide proof of crime (racism, in this case), and not proof for absence of crime.


I’ve provided evidence multiple times in this very thread.

It’s your turn to park your emotions and provide evidence of your claim

A quote

A data point

Anything. Anything other than it’s true because you say so.
56   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 12, 7:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
People are getting fatigued by the race card being used for every failing by blacks.


This is the truth. People are much more invested in their own lives and much less concerned with the plight of those who cause their own troubles. A toxic person will drag everyone near them down. Thus, they are avoided by all persons of wisdom. Often they wind up indigent, the subjects of scorn and perhaps pity. I don’t pity them. They made their choices, chose poorly, and the world is unkind to such. As it should be. A world that let everyone get whatever they wanted no matter what they did would be a chaotic mess, let alone being an impossibility.
57   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 13, 7:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
RC2006 says
People are getting fatigued by the race card being used for every failing by blacks.


This is the truth. People are much more invested in their own lives and much less concerned with the plight of those who cause their own troubles. A toxic person will drag everyone near them down. Thus, they are avoided by all persons of wisdom. Often they wind up indigent, the subjects of scorn and perhaps pity. I don’t pity them. They made their choices, chose poorly, and the world is unkind to such. As it should be. A world that let everyone get whatever they wanted no matter what they did would be a chaotic mess, let alone being an impossibility.


How are minorities causing their own troubles by simply trying to live their lives like any other Americans, yet being singled out and targeted by the oppressive State? Try being black in the hood smoking a blunt and explain to a cop it’s just “a Libertarian experiment in the name of science” or whatever you say when ypu do drugs.

I can definitely understand the desire to simply want to be treated just like everyone else by the Government. It doesn’t get anymore American than that
58   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 13, 7:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
What more proof do you need?

You have not provided any proof for racism in war of drugs today.

Aphroman says
It was born of racism. I provided the quotes straight from the mouth of the man who ushered in Prohibition.

That is 100% clear. I would add religious fanaticism also to causes.

Aphroman says
What reasonable person would argue that magically it stayed in tact, except the racist aspect mysteriously went away?

Racism aspect has gone away or at least is severely decreased in most aspects of American life. Why not in war on drugs? Economic reasons are sufficient to perpetuate it now.

Aphroman says
What happened ...


So having some time to think about it, your response is even more absurd.

1938 The War on Drugs is racist...we agree

1970 The War on Drugs is racist...we agree

2018 The War on Drugs is racist....we disagree


What changed?
When did it change?

Do you have any evidence other than your feelz?

I thought you said before that you are a teacher at a university. If you looked at your response as a teacher and it came from one of your students, would you feel it’s sufficient?
59   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 13, 8:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
How are minorities causing their own troubles by simply trying to live their lives like any other Americans, yet being singled out and targeted by the oppressive State?


Last I heard, white guys were being shot by cops twice as often as black guys. But you won’t hear an outcry from the white community about racist actions by police. Those white guys are pieces of shit and we are all glad to have criminals off the streets. This makes us laugh at blacks who insist that every criminal who gets his ass shot for threatening a cop was some kind of local hero who “din’ do nuffin’.”
I’m friends with a black cop, and though he’s experienced racism in the past from his fellow police, he’s experienced much more hate from the black community just for doing his job.

The black community needs to drop its toxic attitudes towards law and order, focus on forming strong black families, and contributing to the community.

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