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Self-contradictory immigration laws in California?

By Patrick following x   2018 Jun 23, 11:36am 264 views   9 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Pursuant to Section 12801.9, the DMV must issue a license to people who are not in the country legally if they’re otherwise qualified for the license. Those licenses indicate on their face that the holder is allowed to drive, but the license “does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.” Now it’s a violation of the FEHA for employers to discriminate against employees because they hold such licenses, or even to ask to see the license.


https://californiaemploymentlaw.foxrothschild.com/tags/cal-vehicle-code-12801-9/

I can't quite follow that.

So, the California DMV must help illegals break federal immigration law by giving licenses to them even when they know them to be illegal.

And employers must not discriminate against people whose drivers licenses indicate that they are here illegally.

And employers must not employ illegals.

WTF? How can employers both not discriminate against people whose driver's licenses clearly indicate that they are illegal, and yet also not employ them?
1   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 11:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

California is crazy for SJW laws.

However, i suspect the contradiction is for providing employers with legal protection when they hire illegals. Not many don’t want to hire illegals to keep workers cheap. This gives them license...
2   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 12:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Quigley says
i suspect the contradiction is for providing employers with legal protection when they hire illegals.


Yes, you may be right about that.

It makes sense that employers of illegals would manipulate the law to protect themselves so that they can continue to undercut wages and benefits for the poorest US citizens.

Illegals => lower wages for the poor => higher profits for employers
3   RecentCost   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 12:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

California is such a stupid state. Need to put the emotions on hold and start making intelligent decisions.

Things will have to get worse before they get better.
4   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 1:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

CA where offering a straw is a $1000 dollar find and being here illegally gets you a driver's license.
5   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Jun 23, 1:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The point of this law is to create influx of cheap labor. At the end it is always about replacing Americans with cheap illegals.
6   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 23, 1:42pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

FortWayne says
The point of this law is to create influx of cheap labor. At the end it is always about replacing Americans with cheap illegals.


Thats part of it for sure but I always thought the main reason was to divide and make Americans easier to manipulate and control.
7   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Jun 23, 3:32pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

It goes WAY further than SJW stuff, although the people advocating allowing illegal immigrants into the US don't pose a terrorist issue(they are way too cowardly for that...more on that in a bit). Several state legislators hold similar views to Jorge Ramos...that is that ANY Mexican ought to be able to immigrate to the US by any means necessary. Of course they can't say so publicly...at least not loudly. But their actions on the laws Patrick stated, show their intent. This comes from college, where professors at several colleges, most notably Cal State LA, hold views of various movements:

https://www.fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/chicano-nationalism-revanchism-and-aztlan-myth

Now about the cowardly part. Keep in mind I grew up in the heart of Chicano So Cal. That is, I went to a high school that was majority latino, and had grandparents on both sides that live in once mixed communities that became nearly entirely latino by the time they passed. The people that participated in the Azatlan and other Chicano movements were mostly male, nearly all "petite" individuals, and nearly all viewed themselves as individuals that were highly intelligent, but really were not that intelligent(hence why many became college professors in ethic studies). Needless to say, the ones that where physically big or strong generally bought into mainstream US culture and consider themselves Americans. Basically the Aztlan movement became an empowerment for nerds of Mexican ethnic heritage. I'll also note that theres a fairly strong current of racism in a minority of latinos against whites that manifests itself in an equally stupid manner. For instance despite the high school I attended being 2/3 latino at the time, a few individuals of incredibly low IQ and self esteem decided it was a good idea to have a "Mexican High School Reunion". And most colleges in California have a "latino student uniton" that is a hotbed for stupid racist ideas.

First off, lets be real about how and why the US went to war with Mexico, and what the result of it was. Mexico barely had a hold on the territories in the north...particularly little in Arizona, California, and Texas. In fact, Mexico was scarcely a real country at the time.

http://www.pbs.org/kera/usmexicanwar/war/borderlands_on_the_eve.html

Furthermore, the US legitimately declared war on Mexico.

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Senate_Votes_for_War_against_Mexico.htm

So now you have students being taught false and slanted garbage by marginalized racist nerds of middling intelligence:

https://users.humboldt.edu/ogayle/hist110/unit3/MexicanAmericanWar.html

Oh, and Mexican schools teach their kids that the US stole their land also.

So you get racist politicians like Kevin De Leon, Gil Cedillo, and many others doing stupid shit like this:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-california-legal-immigrant-defense-20170302-htmlstory.html.

In a world where all was correct, several of these politicians and professors would get charged with treason. But not in the world of all cultures are equal.

If I can't say it clearly enough, most of Mexico is an utter shithole and were truly have a right to deny entrance to ANYONE who attempts to illegally immigrate from Mexico to the US.
8   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 23, 10:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

So, the California DMV must help illegals break federal immigration law by giving licenses to them even when they know them to be illegal.


False. There is no federal law against giving illegals a DL. Until the 1990's there were no restrictions by the states on giving illegals a DL at all. In 1993 CA became the first state to check immigration status and denying DL's for it with 45 states following suit. So CA is right back to where is was 25 years ago. Surprised the hordes of CA residents on patnet don't know this.

Patrick says

And employers must not discriminate against people whose drivers licenses indicate that they are here illegally.

And employers must not employ illegals.

WTF? How can employers both not discriminate against people whose driver's licenses clearly indicate that they are illegal, and yet also not employ them?


E-verify. Simple enough. They can also call SS and verify the SS number at the time of hire-800 772-1213. Plus you get a ss number mismatch letter after the first payment to SS, so HR damn well knows something is going on and has a right to investigate.

The DL statute is just meaningless poltical theatre someone dreamed up to make a sound bite look what I did political moment.
9   Hassan_Rouhani   ignore (3)   2018 Jun 23, 11:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

bob2356 says
So CA is right back to where is was 25 years ago.


So Progressives are causing regress. Shall we rename them Regressives?




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