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Ceffer
2018 Jun 28, 9:32am
Ceffer
2018 Jun 28, 9:32am
"Comrade, you have not taken the moral high ground. Thank you for your contributions and the expression of your views." "Take him out and shoot him."
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RWSGFY
2018 Jun 28, 10:17am
RWSGFY
2018 Jun 28, 10:17am
Good. All it means that powerful senior congressmen is out and will potenitally be replaced by junior looney-tooney bimbo.
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 1:54pm
Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 1:54pm
RafiMaas says
Tea Party members are far less scummy than Socialist.
So that makes all Republicans tea partyers?
Tea Party members are far less scummy than Socialist.
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 2:16pm
Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 2:16pm
RafiMaas says
This is exactly where I wanted to go.
Now, explain in detail, what's the difference? Use real world examples if you can.
communism maybe the meme would make sense.
This is exactly where I wanted to go.
Now, explain in detail, what's the difference? Use real world examples if you can.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 28, 2:30pm
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 28, 2:30pm
Every govt provides police, most provide defense/roads/fire dept as well. Lol, are you suggesting every govt in the world is socialist?
This seems like willfully ignoring nuance, dont ya think?
This seems like willfully ignoring nuance, dont ya think?
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 2:43pm
Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 2:43pm
RafiMaas says
So "Socialism" according to your logic is only about defense/roads/fire departments/police, and nothing else right?
Ok in the US there are things we have socialized for the greater good of our country like defense, the police department, the fire department, roads. Are you saying we should stop spending $700 billion for our socialist defense department?
So "Socialism" according to your logic is only about defense/roads/fire departments/police, and nothing else right?
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 28, 3:06pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 28, 3:06pm
Yeah, saying the military is socialism is a stretch, given that the UK in the late 19th Century, when it was a pinnacle of free trade and minimal governance, had a massive navy and many public works, particularly lighthouses, telegraph weather stations, etc. worldwide.
The USA before the civil war spent federal money on postal roads, lighthouses and nav aids, forts, etc.
Socialism as the forcible redistribution of wealth is a better descriptor.
The USA before the civil war spent federal money on postal roads, lighthouses and nav aids, forts, etc.
Socialism as the forcible redistribution of wealth is a better descriptor.
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Shaman
2018 Jun 28, 3:25pm
Shaman
2018 Jun 28, 3:25pm
Tim Aurora says
I think we should substitute “Constitutional Republic” for “hard right” and “Totalitarian Communist” for “hard left.”
Since the USA was created as a Constitutional Republic and not a Communist Totalitarian government, we are simply reverting to our origins. Which, coincidentally, is the system of government which made possible the rise of the United States from a backwater upstart colony to the mightiest world power the world has ever seen by a factor of ten!
So before we toss out our hallowed governmental traditions in favor of what Leftists claim is “more modern,” let’s make those old communists PROVE that their system actually works for anything other than destruction.
If you take the country hard right, the left will go hard left
I think we should substitute “Constitutional Republic” for “hard right” and “Totalitarian Communist” for “hard left.”
Since the USA was created as a Constitutional Republic and not a Communist Totalitarian government, we are simply reverting to our origins. Which, coincidentally, is the system of government which made possible the rise of the United States from a backwater upstart colony to the mightiest world power the world has ever seen by a factor of ten!
So before we toss out our hallowed governmental traditions in favor of what Leftists claim is “more modern,” let’s make those old communists PROVE that their system actually works for anything other than destruction.
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 4:02pm
Goran_K
2018 Jun 28, 4:02pm
Tim Aurora says
No, Nazism is actually kin with the left. Nazism is a form of collectivism, it says it in the fucking name.
"Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei aka National Socialist German Workers’ Party"
From Hitler's own mouth:
"We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions!" - Hitler
Nazism has always been a philosophy of the far LEFT. Hitler was a big fan of class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen.
Sound familiar? It should, it comes straight out of the Democrat playbook.
You can spin it whichever way you want, the Alt-right is "Nazism",
No, Nazism is actually kin with the left. Nazism is a form of collectivism, it says it in the fucking name.
"Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei aka National Socialist German Workers’ Party"
From Hitler's own mouth:
"We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions!" - Hitler
Nazism has always been a philosophy of the far LEFT. Hitler was a big fan of class warfare, agitating the working class to resist “exploitation” by capitalists , particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their programs called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen.
Sound familiar? It should, it comes straight out of the Democrat playbook.
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lostand confused
2018 Jun 28, 4:11pm
lostand confused
2018 Jun 28, 4:11pm
Goran_K says
Don't forget propaganda-something dems are very good at!
Sound familiar? It should, it comes straight out of the Democrat playbook
Don't forget propaganda-something dems are very good at!
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 28, 5:30pm
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 28, 5:30pm
Tim Aurora says
Please show us a single example of a politician who eagerly identifies themselves as a nazi or white supremacist or even anti-gay (unless you mean Obama/HRC pre 2012?).
While I'm sure you will suggest every Republican is a dog whistle nazi, this woman is proudly identifying herself as a socialist.
Your hard right nazi assumption would require you to be psychic to know, whereas this woman is righteously socialist. Anyone w an honest perspective should understand this difference.
Goran_K says
Agreed. However the people he is pointing out do vote for R's instead of D's. From our libertarian perspective, the alt-right and progressives are the same thing.
The shocking part is how the "alt right nazis" are treated like the scorn of all scorns (which they would be of they had any power) , whereas the socialists who are literally tearing our country apart w the same brand of identity politics are widely supported by the left.
The "right" scorns both these groups equally, which is correct IMO.
the Alt-right is "Nazism", "white supremacist" , "anti-gay"
Please show us a single example of a politician who eagerly identifies themselves as a nazi or white supremacist or even anti-gay (unless you mean Obama/HRC pre 2012?).
While I'm sure you will suggest every Republican is a dog whistle nazi, this woman is proudly identifying herself as a socialist.
Your hard right nazi assumption would require you to be psychic to know, whereas this woman is righteously socialist. Anyone w an honest perspective should understand this difference.
Goran_K says
Nazism is actually kin with the left.
Agreed. However the people he is pointing out do vote for R's instead of D's. From our libertarian perspective, the alt-right and progressives are the same thing.
The shocking part is how the "alt right nazis" are treated like the scorn of all scorns (which they would be of they had any power) , whereas the socialists who are literally tearing our country apart w the same brand of identity politics are widely supported by the left.
The "right" scorns both these groups equally, which is correct IMO.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 28, 8:25pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 28, 8:25pm
Tim Aurora says
Homosexuality was considered Bourgeois Decadence in the Soviet Union. And Cuba.
I can give you many examples of anti-gay , naziism and white supremacy but you will always spin around.
Homosexuality was considered Bourgeois Decadence in the Soviet Union. And Cuba.
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mell
2018 Jun 28, 8:36pm
RafiMaas says
It's inherently leftist. The Nazis were leftists, born out of a socialist worker party. The biggest and most brutal mass murderers in recent history (since we can make a rough left/right division) by arge factors are/were all leftists.
Goran_K saysNo, Nazism is actually kin with the left. Nazism is a form of collectivism, it says it in the fucking name.
"Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei aka National Socialist German Workers’ Party"
What does killing 6 million Jews and a supreme race have to do with socialism? Please do tell?
It's inherently leftist. The Nazis were leftists, born out of a socialist worker party. The biggest and most brutal mass murderers in recent history (since we can make a rough left/right division) by arge factors are/were all leftists.
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just_passing_through
2018 Jun 28, 9:20pm
just_passing_through
2018 Jun 28, 9:20pm
RafiMaas says
Duya doh duh, Socialists did it?
once again, what does killing 6 million Jews and believing that there is 1 super race have to do with socialism?
Duya doh duh, Socialists did it?
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lostand confused
2018 Jun 28, 9:47pm
lostand confused
2018 Jun 28, 9:47pm
RafiMaas says
Aah liberal logic. Socialists kill 6 million jews-burn them alive, gas them alive and do unspeakeable experiements on them. The elft questions what socialism ahs to dow tih ti-the socialists did it.
The leftis claim Rights persecution of Muslims-what, not letting 8% of them into our country -is the same as killing 6 million Jews and the horrors of the Holocaust. the elft has gone insane-how can any sane person even compare the two. Does th eleft not even see how cruel and fiendish they appear? is this some sort of collective madness-some sort of mass psychotic break????
once again, what does killing 6 million Jews and believing that there is 1 super race have to do with socialism? The rights persecution of Muslisms is more akin to the Nazis extermination of Jews.
Aah liberal logic. Socialists kill 6 million jews-burn them alive, gas them alive and do unspeakeable experiements on them. The elft questions what socialism ahs to dow tih ti-the socialists did it.
The leftis claim Rights persecution of Muslims-what, not letting 8% of them into our country -is the same as killing 6 million Jews and the horrors of the Holocaust. the elft has gone insane-how can any sane person even compare the two. Does th eleft not even see how cruel and fiendish they appear? is this some sort of collective madness-some sort of mass psychotic break????
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Reality
2018 Jun 28, 10:33pm
The term "liberalism" in that particular Hitler quote was referencing the European definition of "liberalism"; i.e. "neo-liberalism"/capitalism/libertarianism in today's lingo.
Both Hitler and Moussolini were socialists (and formerly self-acknowledged and card-carrying socialist party members), as were the overwhelming majority of their core followers. The Nazi vs. Commie feud was in reality similar to the Stalin vs. Trotsky feud and Stalin's directive via Communist International to target socialist parties: internecine feud in order to eliminate the closest competition in the same Darwinian niche.
Both Hitler and Moussolini were socialists (and formerly self-acknowledged and card-carrying socialist party members), as were the overwhelming majority of their core followers. The Nazi vs. Commie feud was in reality similar to the Stalin vs. Trotsky feud and Stalin's directive via Communist International to target socialist parties: internecine feud in order to eliminate the closest competition in the same Darwinian niche.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 1:28am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 1:28am
RafiMaas says
Both Nazi Germany and USSR controlled means of production, both engaged in disgusting identity politics, both took away basic human rights, both tortured and killed Jews, both wanted an empire with centralized power.
Most important, BOTH emphasized the collective over the individual resulting in totalitarianism.
Yeah i really dont care if Nazis were about killing the wrong races, whereas Marxists were about killing the wrong thinkers. The difference between these two is further blurred if you read Mein Kampf. Hitler very clearly expressed that Jews were genetically inclined to wrongthink, and thereby their genetic line (the wrongthink) should be eliminted.
The autonomous individual citizen, and God given rights associated w this celebration of individualism is THE SINGLE crowing achievement of western culture. Fascism and Marxism fail for exactly the same reasons. More important, the solution to both is libertarianism. Individual rights > collective identity politics.
Actually Hitler was totalitarianRafiMaas says
Just having socialist in the name doesn't make it socialism.
Both Nazi Germany and USSR controlled means of production, both engaged in disgusting identity politics, both took away basic human rights, both tortured and killed Jews, both wanted an empire with centralized power.
Most important, BOTH emphasized the collective over the individual resulting in totalitarianism.
Yeah i really dont care if Nazis were about killing the wrong races, whereas Marxists were about killing the wrong thinkers. The difference between these two is further blurred if you read Mein Kampf. Hitler very clearly expressed that Jews were genetically inclined to wrongthink, and thereby their genetic line (the wrongthink) should be eliminted.
The autonomous individual citizen, and God given rights associated w this celebration of individualism is THE SINGLE crowing achievement of western culture. Fascism and Marxism fail for exactly the same reasons. More important, the solution to both is libertarianism. Individual rights > collective identity politics.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 1:59am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 1:59am
Tim Aurora says
No you can't. You can pretend there are racists under every rock but there's no evidence to support that fantasy. There will always be some number of racists amongst every group. These people are equally rejected by the right and the left.
Meanwhile the extreme left is indeed controlling most universities, violently attacking free speech, destroying property, and generally oppressing and/or attacking anyone who questions their narrative. Including but not limited to genuine liberals like Dr. Jordan Peterson as well as good-intention conservatives like Ben Shapiro. The extreme left and their MSM/pop culture apologists have referred to both as nazis.
Did the Nazis/Marxists dog whistle? Or did they stand up and righteously proclaim their oppressive intent? Has any tyrant or tyrannical movement ever dog whistled, or have ALL of them bbehaved righteous in their murder?
Assuming the left can read minds. Thus those who in no way behave or suggest they are racist are indeed dog whistle Nazis. The fact that these Nazis have been suppressed to dog whistling should prove to you the righteous extreme left is far more dangerous today.
I can give you many examples of anti-gay , naziism and white supremac
No you can't. You can pretend there are racists under every rock but there's no evidence to support that fantasy. There will always be some number of racists amongst every group. These people are equally rejected by the right and the left.
Meanwhile the extreme left is indeed controlling most universities, violently attacking free speech, destroying property, and generally oppressing and/or attacking anyone who questions their narrative. Including but not limited to genuine liberals like Dr. Jordan Peterson as well as good-intention conservatives like Ben Shapiro. The extreme left and their MSM/pop culture apologists have referred to both as nazis.
Did the Nazis/Marxists dog whistle? Or did they stand up and righteously proclaim their oppressive intent? Has any tyrant or tyrannical movement ever dog whistled, or have ALL of them bbehaved righteous in their murder?
Assuming the left can read minds. Thus those who in no way behave or suggest they are racist are indeed dog whistle Nazis. The fact that these Nazis have been suppressed to dog whistling should prove to you the righteous extreme left is far more dangerous today.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 2:07am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 2:07am
Tim Aurora says
You are mixing up the chicken and the egg.
The Alt-right is a hard-right and it will get the hard left response and a divided nation.
You are mixing up the chicken and the egg.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 3:34am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 3:34am
RafiMaas says
Quality mind reading.
Question: do the psychic powers of the left work on everyone or just those you politically oppose?
This is how a true totalitarian, facist, rightists thinks.
Quality mind reading.
Question: do the psychic powers of the left work on everyone or just those you politically oppose?
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 6:15am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 6:15am
Tim Aurora says
Tim Aurora says
You're like a one eyed man who can only see threats coming from the right. The alt right and regressive left are mirror images of each other. The vice versa of your statement is equally true, and though youd fully ignore it, many liberals have made the case that the extreme left is responsible for the rise of the extreme right. It certainly looks that way worldwide.
Tim Aurora says
Lol, you think soy boys can engage in violence against actual men? Please dont, for your own teams sake.
It is what is happening and it is pretty evident from the title of this thread.Yup. The D's are going full blown Marxist, particularly the progressives.Tim Aurora says
Again, you can argue that Trump is not racist and bigotUnless you can read minds, you are simply projecting.Tim Aurora says
I and other progressivesAhh I see the problem here.Tim Aurora says
We are beyond reasonable arguments and have crossed into cultism.Yup. Far left aggression is getting dangerous. Kindly knock it off. Thanks.
Tim Aurora says
So, once again, hard right will evoke a hard left response. If right wants to go more right , it will even get a more divided nation
You're like a one eyed man who can only see threats coming from the right. The alt right and regressive left are mirror images of each other. The vice versa of your statement is equally true, and though youd fully ignore it, many liberals have made the case that the extreme left is responsible for the rise of the extreme right. It certainly looks that way worldwide.
Tim Aurora says
maybe even physically get divided. Brace it because that is where it is leading.
Lol, you think soy boys can engage in violence against actual men? Please dont, for your own teams sake.
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Shaman
2018 Jun 29, 6:43am
Shaman
2018 Jun 29, 6:43am
RafiMaas says
Yes he was a Totalitarian! But you’re getting fascism and communism confused here. They are both just EXCUSES for implementing Totalitarianism! They may sound different, but they end with the same result: total government control and abdication of all people’s rights. The TRUE government spectrum runs from total government control on the left(Totalitarianism) to total absence of government on the right (Anarchy). Since Anarchy is always a very temporary state, we must not consider it as a possible government model.
Actually Hitler was totalitarian, a fascist a Rightists.
Yes he was a Totalitarian! But you’re getting fascism and communism confused here. They are both just EXCUSES for implementing Totalitarianism! They may sound different, but they end with the same result: total government control and abdication of all people’s rights. The TRUE government spectrum runs from total government control on the left(Totalitarianism) to total absence of government on the right (Anarchy). Since Anarchy is always a very temporary state, we must not consider it as a possible government model.
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mell
2018 Jun 29, 8:03am
Tim Aurora says
The left has veered so far off that even the farthest alt-right can't compete with them. Pretty much every discussion about a specific policy topic - nothing to do with race or creed - ends abruptly with the leftoid calling his debating opponent a Nazi. Here's who's responsible for the divide. I have seen countless discussions like these. How can anybody with a working logical brain equate someone who is opposed to illegal immigration with people who actively went to world-war with multiple countries, worked and gassed people to death in concentration camps and had no working republic/democracy during that time whatsoever? Until the left can come back the table and talk about the issue instead about their asinine projections the rift will not end but only become bigger.
t is what is happening and it is pretty evident from the title of this thread. Again, you can argue that Trump is not racist and bigot and I will not be convinced and after trying so hard I and other progressives have not been able to convince you and other conservatives. We are beyond reasonable arguments and have crossed into cultism. It reeks of a divided nation.
So, once again, hard right will evoke a hard left response. If right wants to go more right , it will even get a more divided nation, maybe even physically get divided. Brace it because that is where it is leading.
The left has veered so far off that even the farthest alt-right can't compete with them. Pretty much every discussion about a specific policy topic - nothing to do with race or creed - ends abruptly with the leftoid calling his debating opponent a Nazi. Here's who's responsible for the divide. I have seen countless discussions like these. How can anybody with a working logical brain equate someone who is opposed to illegal immigration with people who actively went to world-war with multiple countries, worked and gassed people to death in concentration camps and had no working republic/democracy during that time whatsoever? Until the left can come back the table and talk about the issue instead about their asinine projections the rift will not end but only become bigger.
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:17am
Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:17am
RafiMaas says
You're mistaking a symptom for the disease. People who have AIDS often die of Pneumonia. Does that mean AIDS wasn't the problem?
The same with Socialism. Socialism creates the environment for STRONG centralized power which can lead to things like Genocide, just look at the history of the 20th century which is replete with examples of totalitarian governments that went usurpatious, but often started off with "good socialist intentions".
once again, what does killing 6 million Jews and believing that there is 1 super race have to do with socialism? The rights persecution of Muslisms is more akin to the Nazis extermination of Jews.
You're mistaking a symptom for the disease. People who have AIDS often die of Pneumonia. Does that mean AIDS wasn't the problem?
The same with Socialism. Socialism creates the environment for STRONG centralized power which can lead to things like Genocide, just look at the history of the 20th century which is replete with examples of totalitarian governments that went usurpatious, but often started off with "good socialist intentions".
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:18am
Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:18am
Tim Aurora says
What is being spun? The quotes about the NAZI party being socialist were directly out of Hitler's own mouth and his own policies.
I can give you many examples of anti-gay , naziism and white supremacy but you will always spin around.
What is being spun? The quotes about the NAZI party being socialist were directly out of Hitler's own mouth and his own policies.
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:20am
Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:20am
CBOEtrader says
Obviously someone who is actually well read on history.
Seriously, there are very few "hard" lines that make totalitarian governments distinct from each other (I actually can't think of more than 1 or 2 which are trivial anyway).
The strong theme is strong centralized power based around collectivism. This has become a hallmark of the left, not just the "far left", but the entire left. It is extremely dangerous.
Yeah i really dont care if Nazis were about killing the wrong races, whereas Marxists were about killing the wrong thinkers. The difference between these two is further blurred if you read Mein Kampf. Hitler very clearly expressed that Jews were genetically inclined to wrongthink, and thereby their genetic line (the wrongthink) should be eliminted.
The autonomous individual citizen, and God given rights associated w this celebration of individualism is THE SINGLE crowing achievement of western culture. Fascism and Marxism fail for exactly the same reasons. More important, the solution to both is libertarianism. Individual rights > collective identity politics.
Obviously someone who is actually well read on history.
Seriously, there are very few "hard" lines that make totalitarian governments distinct from each other (I actually can't think of more than 1 or 2 which are trivial anyway).
The strong theme is strong centralized power based around collectivism. This has become a hallmark of the left, not just the "far left", but the entire left. It is extremely dangerous.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 29, 8:46am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 29, 8:46am
CBOEtrader says
#KillAllMen
#DieCisScum
I don't know if it was Kemala Harris of somebody else saying yesterday:
"If you aren't a white male right now, you should be scared."
Kind of like Hitler saying "The Jews are getting close to ultimate power. Beware, Good Catholics!"
Assuming the left can read minds. Thus those who in no way behave or suggest they are racist are indeed dog whistle Nazis. The fact that these Nazis have been suppressed to dog whistling should prove to you the righteous extreme left is far more dangerous today.
#KillAllMen
#DieCisScum
I don't know if it was Kemala Harris of somebody else saying yesterday:
"If you aren't a white male right now, you should be scared."
Kind of like Hitler saying "The Jews are getting close to ultimate power. Beware, Good Catholics!"
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 29, 8:48am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jun 29, 8:48am
Jeff Flake is a neoliberal, not a conservative. His goals are Total Free Trade and Wide Open Borders, he ran the fake opposition in the days when there was no choice. He ran the Gang of Eight which was the Republic Wide Open Borders pressure group in the Senate.
Thanks to Trump, now we can vote on real serious issues, not just Gay Marriage. We have a choice. Not just Free Trade and Open Borders, with or withour Gay Civil Unions.
The powers that be did not want this choice, it wanted to keep things on Identity politics while they implement and cement their favored multinational corporate policies.
Thanks to Trump, now we can vote on real serious issues, not just Gay Marriage. We have a choice. Not just Free Trade and Open Borders, with or withour Gay Civil Unions.
The powers that be did not want this choice, it wanted to keep things on Identity politics while they implement and cement their favored multinational corporate policies.
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:57am
Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 8:57am
Tim Aurora says
How is he racists and a fascists? Can you make a case for either of those?
He is a fascist, a racist and will align to whatever side allows him to be a real narcissist
How is he racists and a fascists? Can you make a case for either of those?
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MrMagic
2018 Jun 29, 9:07am
MrMagic
2018 Jun 29, 9:07am
TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Just look at her platform, she makes Bernie look like a lightweight:
Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and a former organizer for Bernie Sanders.
Just look at her platform, she makes Bernie look like a lightweight:
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Shaman
2018 Jun 29, 9:27am
Shaman
2018 Jun 29, 9:27am
Tim Aurora says
Please don’t just spout Leftist talking points, boundless accusations without proof or definition. You’ll need to prove that if you want anyone to take your seriously. Especially since the factual evidence directly contradicts your statements! Racist? Trump was winning awards from the NAACP before he ran for President and suddenly got labeled a racist. He isn’t a true conservative this is true. Which should be a good thing for those on the Left, but the Left has grown SO CONSERVATIVE that they can’t stand anyone who is actually liberal in political stance! It’s the worst sort of irony. Finally, a POTUS like Trump is responsive to popular will. If you protest and actually have a point (like on the immigrant families issue last week), he will go ahead and change policy as requested. That’s amazing considering the last FOUR Presidents have shown nothing but smug condescension to people who neither voted for them nor contributed to their campaigns. Now we have a responsive POTUS who is liberal and respects democratic ideals, and you call him a fascist? It is to laugh! Check your twisted thinking, sister!
Trump is not a conservative. He is a fascist, a racist
Please don’t just spout Leftist talking points, boundless accusations without proof or definition. You’ll need to prove that if you want anyone to take your seriously. Especially since the factual evidence directly contradicts your statements! Racist? Trump was winning awards from the NAACP before he ran for President and suddenly got labeled a racist. He isn’t a true conservative this is true. Which should be a good thing for those on the Left, but the Left has grown SO CONSERVATIVE that they can’t stand anyone who is actually liberal in political stance! It’s the worst sort of irony. Finally, a POTUS like Trump is responsive to popular will. If you protest and actually have a point (like on the immigrant families issue last week), he will go ahead and change policy as requested. That’s amazing considering the last FOUR Presidents have shown nothing but smug condescension to people who neither voted for them nor contributed to their campaigns. Now we have a responsive POTUS who is liberal and respects democratic ideals, and you call him a fascist? It is to laugh! Check your twisted thinking, sister!
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Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 9:28am
Goran_K
2018 Jun 29, 9:28am
Sniper says
She should have just said she's running as a Genie, and will grant everyone in her district 3 wishes.
Just look at her platform, she makes Bernie look like a lightweight:
She should have just said she's running as a Genie, and will grant everyone in her district 3 wishes.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 9:35am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 29, 9:35am
Tim Aurora says
Please show us where Obama was criticized for being black. Just one example.
I believe that Obama was vilified more for being a black
Please show us where Obama was criticized for being black. Just one example.
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The victory, in a New York district primary election to determine who stands against the Republicans in November’s midterms for a seat in Congress, immediately prompted debate about the wider ramifications for the Democrats, and whether it heralds a further move to the left.
Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and a former organizer for Bernie Sanders. She would be the youngest female member of Congress in history if she wins as expected in November.
She won by a margin of 57.5%- 42.5% over Crowley in a majority minority district that included parts of Queens and the Bronx.
In the election – one of several primary victories by progressives – Ocasio-Cortez won 57.5% of the vote and Crowley had 42.5%. The district includes parts of Queens and the Bronx.
When the result was called, a visibly shocked Ocasio-Cortez clasped her hands to her mouth. “Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God,” she repeated. She then said: “We meet a machine with a movement, and that is what we have done today … working-class Americans want a clear champion and there is nothing radical about moral clarity in 2018.”\
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/26/democrats-primaries-upset-joe-crowley-alexandria-osacio-cortez
Excellent. Please move harder to the Left than you already are, Democrats.