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How Girls Ruin Boy's Games

By Patrick following x   2018 Jun 30, 10:57pm 992 views   20 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


From https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-for-life/ :

Boys' interests tilt towards things; girls' interests tilt towards people. Strikingly, these differences, strongly influenced by biological factors, are most pronounced in the Scandinavian societies where gender equality has been pushed the hardest: this is the opposite of what would be expected by those who insist, ever more loudly, that gender is a social construct. It isn't. This isn't a debate. The data are in. ...

Other factors play their role in the decline of boys. Girls will, for example, play boys' games, but boys are much more reluctant to play girls' games. This is in part because it is admirable for a girl to win when competing with a boy. It is also OK for her to lose to a boy. For a boy to beat a girl, however, is often not OK --and just as often, it is even less OK for him to lose. Imagine that a boy and a girl, aged nine, get into a fight. Just for engaging, the boy is highly suspect. If he wins, he's pathetic. If he loses, well his life might as well be over. Beat up by a girl.

Girls can win by winning in their own hierarchy -- by being good at what girls value, as girls. They can add to this victory by winning in the boys' hierarchy. Boys, however, can only win by winning in the male hierarchy. They will lose status, among girls and boys, by being good at what girls value. It costs them in reputation among the boys, and in attractiveness among the girls. Girls aren't attracted to boys who are their friends, even though they might like them, whatever that means. They are attracted to boys who win status contests with other boys. If you're male, however, you just can't hammer a female as hard as you would a male. Boys can't (won't) play truly competitive games with girls. It isn't clear how they can win. As the game turns into a girl's game, therefore, the boys leave. Are the universities -- particularly the humanities -- about to become a girl's game?
1   epitaph   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 30, 11:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

The underlying message of this is that boys are superior to women if they can only lose status and women can only gain. What I don't get is how are the inferiors running the games of the superiors? In a hierarchy of power, shouldn't that be the other way around?
2   steverbeaver   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 1, 12:06am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

I have recognized my generation as being sacrificed to the feminazi gods.
We did not achieve equality. All we achieved was ineffective men and hobbled boys who would otherwise be great men. The observations that have led me to this conclusion are readily had; one simply has to look around and use a little introspect to see it.
3   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 1, 4:44pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

epitaph says
The underlying message of this is that boys are superior to women if they can only lose status and women can only gain. What I don't get is how are the inferiors running the games of the superiors? In a hierarchy of power, shouldn't that be the other way around?


No @epitaph that interpretation is a lie, and such lies are the source of the very problem that he is discussing. The underlying message is in no way that boys are superior to girls. That interpretation is a mere parroting of reality-denying militant feminist ideology, sadly.

The reality which militant feminists refuse to tell the truth about is that the two genders are inherently very different biologically and psychologically. The reality is that women get pregnant and men do not, no matter what made-up pronoun they are encouraged to use for themselves. Another reality is that women strongly prefer dominant men as sexual partners. They always have, and they always will. This follows directly from the first fact (women's ability to get pregnant) and women's need over aeons of evolutionary time to find a strong man who will stay with, provide for, and protect them from other men during their pregnancy and while the child is incapable of taking care of itself, perhaps two decades.

As a result of these facts, men have always competed with each other for dominance in order to get the attention of sexually attractive women. But what happens when girls and then women get into boys' and men's games for establishing dominance? Only misery on both sides. Women are no longer the prize worth striving to impress, but rivals instead. Rivals for what though? Now that the prize itself has become a competitor, men just drop out of the game, because it cannot be won anymore. Women are unhappy that they cannot find men who want to play the traditional games leading to marriage, but that's because they themselves, led by the most bitter feminists, have destroyed all incentive for boys and then men to play those games. So more and more women are ending up unmarried, alone, and sad.

The lie that you repeated is central to the misery of millions now, and I fear it's just going to keep getting worse as more people repeat such things without understanding how harmful they are to human happiness.
4   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 1, 4:47pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

steverbeaver says
I have recognized my generation as being sacrificed to the feminazi gods.
We did not achieve equality. All we achieved was ineffective men and hobbled boys who would otherwise be great men. The observations that have led me to this conclusion are readily had; one simply has to look around and use a little introspect to see it.


Yes, that is what happened. "Equality" is a code word for the decimation of marriage and traditional families. We get weak men that women do not want for even a night, much less to raise a child with. No one respects the men being created by feminists, not women, and not men.

Yes, it just takes a little introspection to see it.
6   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 1, 9:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/belgium-sexism-law-public-place-man-first-convicted-brussels-fined-police-gender-a8242706.html

A court in Brussels fined him €3,000 for insulting a police officer because of her gender, Le Soir reported.

It comes as France prepares to create an offence of street harassment, described as “sexist and sexual outrage”.

The Belgian case involved a driver who was stopped for breaking the highway code. The young man – who has not been identified – insulted the police officer because of her gender, the court heard.

He was reported to have said she would be better off doing a job “adapted to women”, in a scene witnessed by several other people.

The driver was found guilty of three charges: contempt of a police officer, making threats and sexist remarks in public, and a serious violation of another person’s dignity because of her gender.

He was warned that if he failed to pay the fine, a prison term of a month would be imposed.
7   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 1, 11:21pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180628131058.htm

Competitive team games in which men test their mettle against others are universal across the world, and may have deep roots in our evolutionary past. Among hunter-gatherers, these games enable men to hone their physical skills and stamina, assess the commitment of their team members, and see how each performs under pressure. ...

"Periodic participation in such games during childhood, adolescence, and early to middle adulthood provides individuals with opportunities to viscerally assess the aggressive formidability and commitment of their own and -- when played with neighboring groups -- other coalitions as their composition and skills change through time," explains Scalise Sugiyama. "The widespread evidence for such games among hunter-gather societies suggests that the motivation to engage in them is a universal feature of human psychology, generating behavior that develops, rehearses, and refines the coalitional combat skills used in lethal raiding."


Seems to show that male sports have been male sports for a very long time.
8   ibibib4   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 2, 8:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I feel like this argument needs more work. I don't understand how a fringe and rare phenomenon (even in the Bay Area) of girls trying to play in boys' sports leagues could be responsible for so many social ills.
9   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 2, 8:46am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Women win by being attractive to men and by establishing connections with other women that help them in their quest to have children and secure resources for their use and the use of their children.

Men win by gaining the respect of other men (with either dominance or competence) and by cooperating with other men to achieve goals. This leads to men winning by securing resources they can the supply to a potential female mate, which leads to genetic reproduction. This, in the most fundamental biological sense, is the only way a man may win since he had not the power of creating offspring but must win that power as granted from an eligible woman.

These are two separate games with very different rules. Women do not win by playing men’s games. They only make themselves suspect among both genders. Women see them as uncooperative and combative, while men see them as challenging for dominance in a parody of the game that men play. What happens when a woman is dominant over men? She will not increase her reproductive abilities this way, only confuse prospective mates and worse, block other men from successfully competing for mates.

Men also do not win by playing women’s games. They lose all respect of other men and women alike by competing in this way. No man playing the man’s game will suddenly find such a man to be a good mate. Such a thing is unnatural, and production of genetic offspring is impossible.
10   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 2, 8:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

feminists are ruining society no less than all other liberal fringe groups.

It’s a shame for our nation and Liberals, who turned Democrat party into an feminist and LGBTQP megaphone.
11   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 2, 9:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
They are attracted to boys who win status contests with other boys. If you're male, however, you just can't hammer a female as hard as you would a male. Boys can't (won't) play truly competitive games with girls. It isn't clear how they can win. As the game turns into a girl's game, therefore, the boys leave. Are the universities -- particularly the humanities -- about to become a girl's game?
Looks like all these things will ultimately have terrible consequences for such male dominated areas as the armed forces, fire and police protection no matter how often we're told females are as competent as males. The fact they get pregnant is already a huge drain on both financial and human resources in the military. There have been cases on Investigation Discovery of murder due to love triangles between competing males for a female soldier's affections. While I'm sure they are chosen for their provocative nature, I expect they are pretty well representative of real life in the services.
12   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 2, 9:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ibibib4 says
I feel like this argument needs more work. I don't understand how a fringe and rare phenomenon (even in the Bay Area) of girls trying to play in boys' sports leagues could be responsible for so many social ills.


@ibibib4 girls playing in boys' sports leagues is a metaphor for women competing with men at men's games throughout life now. It's not just sports per se, though that too has been harmed.
13   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 2, 11:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
How Girls Ruin Boy's Games


Wait.. boys and girls are different!?
14   doik   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 2, 11:30am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
If you're male, however, you just can't hammer a female as hard as you would a male.


Hundreds of Catholic priests would agree.
15   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Jul 2, 11:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

doik says
Patrick says
If you're male, however, you just can't hammer a female as hard as you would a male.


Hundreds of Catholic priests would agree.


Dont even try that here. We love Daddy Trump
16   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 2, 12:17pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

So would lgbt community left loves so much

doik says
Patrick says
If you're male, however, you just can't hammer a female as hard as you would a male.


Hundreds of Catholic priests would agree.
17   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Jul 2, 12:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
So would lgbt community left loves so much

doik says
Patrick says
If you're male, however, you just can't hammer a female as hard as you would a male.


Hundreds of Catholic priests would agree.


Huh?
18   HEYYOU   ignore (20)   2018 Jul 2, 12:51pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Women have half the money & all the pussy.
They can kick men's asses if they decide to boycott.
Have to exclude Republican women,they do as they are told.

How infantile for men to follow some game that has nothing to do with anything important & then when their team wins they think they won,cheering,screaming, hollowing,sitting on their asses.
How delusional can the male gender get?
I can't believe all the soccer fans in the world. How much money do men throw away following games?

Stupid is a pandemic!
19   doik   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 3, 8:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Wow, this site is so political, you can't even make a joke without it becoming about identity politics.
20   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 3, 8:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

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