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To all the people who let this election break up families and friends let this sink in.. (word)


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2018 Jul 20, 10:45am   11,004 views  46 comments

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To all the people who let this election break up families and friends let this sink in I think the last civil conversations we had occurred just days before November 8, 2016. You were supremely confident Hillary Clinton would win the presidential election; you voted for her with glee. As a lifelong Republican, I bit down hard and cast my vote for Donald Trump. Then the unimaginable happened. He won. And you lost your freaking minds.

I knew you would take the loss hard—and personally—since all of you were super jacked-up to elect the first woman president. But I did not imagine you would become totally deranged, attacking anyone who voted for Trump or supported his presidency as a racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic Nazi-sympathizer.

The weirdness started on social media late on Election Night, as it became clear Hillary was going to lose. A few of you actually admitted that you were cradling your sleeping children, weeping, wondering what to tell your kindergartner the next morning about Trump’s victory. It continued over the next several days. Some of you seriously expressed fear about modern-day concentration camps. Despite living a privileged lifestyle, you were suddenly a casualty of the white patriarchy. Your daughters were future victims; your sons were predators-in-waiting. You threatened to leave Facebook because you could no longer enjoy the family photos or vacation posts from people who, once friends, became Literal Hitlers to you on November 8 because they voted for Donald Trump.

I admit I was a little hurt at first. The attacks against us Trump voters were so personal and so vicious that I did not think it could be sustained. I thought maybe you would regain your sanity after some turkey and egg nog.

But you did not. You got worse. And I went from sad to angry to where I am today: Amused. As the whole charade you have been suckered into over the last 18 months starts to fall apart—that Trump would not survive his presidency; he would be betrayed by his own staff, family, and/or political party; he would destroy the Republican Party; he would be declared mentally ill and removed from office; he would be handcuffed and dragged out of the White House by Robert Mueller for “colluding” with Russia—let me remind you what complete fools you have made of yourselves. Not to mention how you’ve been fooled by the media, the Democratic Party, and your new heroes on the NeverTrump Right.

On November 9, you awoke from a self-induced, eight-year-long political coma to find that White House press secretaries shade the truth and top presidential advisors run political cover for their boss. You were shocked to discover that presidents exaggerate, even lie, on occasion. You became interested for the first time about the travel accommodations, office expenses, and lobbyist pals of administration officials. You started counting how many rounds of golf the president played. You suddenly thought it was fine to mock the first lady now that she wasn’t Michelle Obama. Once you removed your pussy hat after attending the Women’s March, you made fun of Kellyanne Conway’s hair, Sarah Sanders’ weight, Melania Trump’s shoes, Hope Hicks’ death stare; you helped fuel a rumor started by a bottom-feeding author that U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley slept with Donald Trump. You thought it was A-OK that Betsy DeVos was nearly physically assaulted and routinely heckled. You glorified a woman who has sex on camera for a paycheck.

You have learned all kinds of new things that those of us who didn’t willfully ignore politics for the past eight years already knew. For example, we already knew that illegal immigrants were being deported and families were being separated.

Some of your behavior has been kinda cute. It was endearing to watch you become experts on the Logan Act, the Hatch Act, the Second Amendment, the 25th Amendment, and the Emoluments Clause. You developed a new crush on Mitt Romney after calling him a “sexist” for having “binders full of women.” You longed for a redux of the presidency of George W. Bush, a man you once wanted imprisoned for war crimes. Ditto for John McCain. You embraced people like Bill Kristol and David Frum without knowing anything about their histories of shotgunning the Iraq War.

Classified emails shared by Hillary Clinton? Who cares! Devin Nunes wanting to declassify crucial information of the public interest? Traitor! But your newfound admiration and fealty to law enforcement really has been a fascinating transformation. Wasn’t it just last fall that I saw you loudly supporting professional athletes who were protesting police brutality by kneeling during the national anthem? Remember how you fanboyed a mediocre quarterback for wearing socks that depicted cops as pigs?

But now you sound like paid spokesmen for the Fraternal Order of Police. You insist that any legitimate criticism of the misconduct and possibile criminality that occured at the Justice Department and FBI is an “attack on law enforcement.” While you once opposed the Patriot Act because it might have allowed the federal government to spy on terrorists who were using the local library to learn how to make suitcase bombs, you now fully support the unchecked power of a secret court to look into the phone calls, text messages and emails of an American citizen because he volunteered for the Trump campaign for a few months. Spying on terrorists, circa 2002: Bad. Spying on Carter Page, circa 2017: The highest form of patriotism.

And that white, male patriarchy that you were convinced would strip away basic rights and silence any opposition after Trump won? That fear has apparently been washed away as you hang on every word uttered by James Comey, John Brennan, and James Clapper. This triumvirate is exhibit “A” of the old-boy network, and represents how the insularity, arrogance, and cover-your-tracks mentality of the white-male power structure still prevails. Yet, instead of rising up against it, you are buying their books, retweeting their Twitter rants and blasting anyone who dares to question their testicular authority. Your pussy hat must be very sad.

But your daily meltdowns about Trump-Russia election collusion have been the most entertaining to observe. After Robert Mueller was appointed as Special Counsel, you were absolutely convinced it would result in Trump’s arrest and/or impeachment. Some of you insisted that Trump wouldn’t last beyond 2017. You quickly swallowed any chum tossed at you by the Trump-hating media on MSNBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post about who was going down next, or who would flip on the president.

For the past year, I have watched you obsess over a rotating cast of characters: Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., Jared Kushner, Carter Page, Reince Priebus, Jeff Sessions, Michael Flynn, Steve Bannon, Sam Nunberg, and Hope Hicks are just a few of the people you thought would turn on Trump or hasten his political demise. But when those fantasies didn’t come true, you turned to Michael Avenatti and Stormy Daniels for hope and inspiration. It will always be your low point. Well, I think it will be. Each time I believe you’ve hit bottom, you come up with a new baseline. Perhaps defending the unprecedented use of federal power to spy on political foes then lie about it will the next nail in your credibility coffin.

The next several weeks will be tough for you. I think Americans will learn some very hard truths about what happened in the previous administration and how we purposely have been misled by powerful leaders and the news media. I wish I could see you as a victim here, but you are not. I know you are smart; you chose to support this insurgency with your eyes wide open.

Julie Kelly American Greatness

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1   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 11:00am  

Yeah it's all about how leftists think about it.
It has really nothing to do with Trump's constant and obvious lying, his constant narcissism and need for validation, his complete immorality on matter of sexual conduct, respect for veterans, business partners, and people in general, his total disdain for allies and adulation of despots, and enemies of the countries, his inability to focus and control his impulses leading to constant chaos in his team, frequent backtracking and inability to execute any real strategy.
It can't have anything to do with that, right?
2   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 11:01am  

The dangerous thing in this country is that Mittens had a binder full of women.

Unless he paid for them.

If Romney doesn't need Viagra, he's already a stiff
3   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 11:08am  

Heraclitusstudent says
Yeah it's all about how leftists think about it.


It's about the total abandonment of Principles when it comes to Trump.

Obama's reset with Putin was heralded, Leftists cheered Obama when he told Romney about the 80s wanting their policy back. When Trump meets him, it's Treason.
They also cheered when he met Castro to normalize relations, a dictatorship that has imprisoned, tortured, and even executed gays and political opponents.
They also cheered when he signed the Iran Deal with a Theocracy, and covered up the extent of the concessions for months.
They pooh pooh'd the huge breakthrough of getting North Korea to denuclearize AND stop testing ballistic missiles. A huge development.

And the ACLU is ground zero for hypocrisy. For the first time, the ACLU actively went to bat for prosecutors seizing the papers of the President's Attorney. And are currently trying to repeal one of the first ten amendments. I cancelled my membership.
4   Goran_K   2018 Jul 20, 11:13am  

Heraclitusstudent says
It has really nothing to do with Trump's constant and obvious lying, his constant narcissism and need for validation, his complete immorality on matter of sexual conduct, respect for veterans, business partners, and people in general, his total disdain for allies and adulation of despots, and enemies of the countries, his inability to focus and control his impulses leading to constant chaos in his team, frequent backtracking and inability to execute any real strategy.
It can't have anything to do with that, right?


Most of those criticisms you could levy on Obama, except Obama didn't put trillions of dollars of wealth into our pockets, not to mention the glut of jobs.
5   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 11:18am  

Goran_K says
Most of those criticisms you could levy on Obama, except Obama didn't put trillions of dollars of wealth into our pockets, not to mention the glut of jobs.


You must be living on a different planet. Obama didn't brag about grabbing pussies, paid prostitutes to shut-up, insulted dead US soldiers and sided with Putin against his own CIA. The level of lying, chaos and incompetence we get from Trump is simply off the chart.
6   mell   2018 Jul 20, 11:23am  

Heraclitusstudent says
his complete immorality on matter of sexual conduct


He brought 5 children into the world in marriages that were/are far stabler than the average marriage today, provided for them financially and gave them - as well as his spouses - a good life. They (except for the youngest) are all successful an have their own careers now, haven't been in conflict with the law and have their own families. Far from being a saint, yet there's a million times more morality displayed than by the abortion-praising, men and nuclear family-hating, and murderous-criminals glorifying soy-laden pussyhatters.

Heraclitusstudent says
his total disdain for allies and adulation of despots, and enemies of the countries


This was never a problem when leftists visited countries where women, gays et al. are routinely stoned. It's called diplomacy and Trump at least achieves real change for the better in those countries.
7   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 11:23am  

Goran_K says
Obama didn't put trillions of dollars of wealth into our pockets, not to mention the glut of jobs.

Obama inherited an economy in free fall and put it back on track.
And job growth is not that great under Trump, especially considering the cost to the national debt.
8   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 11:24am  

mell says
Far from being a saint, yet there's a million times more morality displayed than by the abortion-praising, men and nuclear family-hating, and murderous-criminals glorifying soy-laden pussyhatters.

Oh please.
If any other politician had done what Trump did, their carrier would have immediately ended.
9   mell   2018 Jul 20, 11:28am  

Heraclitusstudent says
Obama didn't brag about grabbing pussies


Every man does at some point in his life. Those who claim otherwise are most likely lying, going by Occam's razor. Most women brag at some point about wild romps with their lovers (or exes), penis size and girth and how they took charge (or were taken wildly when submissive).
10   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 11:34am  

mell says
Every man does at some point in his life.

Nope, they don't.
People may make bad jokes about sex that's not the same, is it?
11   justme   2018 Jul 20, 11:38am  

Ah, I see. Another propaganda article: 'It was Democrats fault when/if families were "broken up" by politics'. What nonsense.

Seriously, is there nothing better to do than to post and celebrate these feel-good Republican/Trumpist propaganda articles?
12   Tenpoundbass   2018 Jul 20, 11:38am  

Heraclitusstudent says
Nope, they don't.
People may make bad jokes about sex that's not the same, is it?



I had a coworker tell me that after the episode first came out. He was all sanctimonious and assured me that he never makes sexist comments like that.
I just let it go and put it on the shelf.
Then about 6 months later some hot chick came to our office as a vistor. When she walked by the office door, he raised up off his chair to get a closer look as she walked past, and said...
"Woah... Ooooph... Wow I think I just Came" then laughed. I didn't even call him out on it, just knowing he's full of shit was verification enough.
13   mell   2018 Jul 20, 11:45am  

justme says
Ah, I see. Another propaganda article: 'It was Democrats fault when/if families were "broken up" by politics'. What nonsense.

Seriously, is there nothing better to do than to post and celebrate these feel-good Republican/Trumpist propaganda articles?


I know about many family splits where the left side quit relations with the right, I don't know about a single case on the opposite. We had Republican and Democratic presidents forever and families did not split up over this. Clearly the hyperbole that you cannot live in peace with a family member, friend, colleague etc. of the opposite political tribe is currently coming from the left.
14   FortWayne   2018 Jul 20, 11:49am  

Liberal media has made some left convinced of their stupid ideas.

It’s sad what media is doing to America. Left wing media is damaging our nation worse than all our enemies combined.
15   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 11:58am  

mell says
Heraclitusstudent says
his complete immorality on matter of sexual conduct


This one flabbergasts me. Clinton was a serial sex pest - wouldn't say rapist since the evidence isn't verifiable. But he groped and prepositioned women at every turn. We were lectured the President's Personal life was nobody's business but his and Hillary's and we should stop being moral busybodies when he solicited a hummer from a worshipful intern half his age and stuck a cigar up her vagina in the Oval Office.

The VERY SAME people who defended Clinton - to the point of saying his accusers were the result of "Dragging dollar bills through a trailer park" and suchlike - are the same people excoriating Trump for some remarks. We're not talking about comparing the 1950s to today, but the late 1990s to today, with mostly the exact same pundits involved.

Remarks, by the way, that are not essentially different from Sex in The City, Sarah Silverman, Chelsea Handler, and Amy Schumer's plots and routines. "Oh, look at all this hot gay guys with great asses - too bad they're all gay, hahaha" "I just got drunk and fucked that big stupid bouncer, tee hee hee."
16   Goran_K   2018 Jul 20, 11:59am  

Heraclitusstudent says
Obama inherited an economy in free fall and put it back on track.
And job growth is not that great under Trump, especially considering the cost to the national debt.


Funny you bring up the "national debt" and Obama, but fail to connect the two.

Obama is the greatest debt creator in the countries history. That's how "he got the economy back on track".


No president in history has added more debt than Obama did. Not Reagan, not Bush, no one.
18   NuttBoxer   2018 Jul 20, 12:04pm  

The knee-jerk reactions to this post are proof Julie is right. If you're smart enough, or open minded enough this should key you in to the bigger truth of the article. It's not about Conservatives/Republicans winning. It's not about Trump being a good President. It's about status quo. Nothing has changed from 8 years ago, from 16 years ago, or from 100 years ago. At least not the way the political leadership runs this country. They're all the same, and so are all of you. The only difference is you've bought into the hate at unprecedented levels, and upped the crazy like nobodies business.

Wake the fuck up! Stop attacking each other, and focus living your lives, and making the world a better place in the small sphere of influence that you have. Yourself, your family, your friends, your neighborhood. America is still a great country filled with great people.
www.youtube.com/embed/lSBrn6wTZSA
19   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 12:04pm  

Goran_K says
No president in history has added more debt than Obama did. Not Reagan, not Bush, no one.


And the results were tepid as all hell, considering the debt involved.
20   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 12:10pm  

Goran_K says
No president in history has added more debt than Obama did. Not Reagan, not Bush, no one.

This is utter BS.
First the rate of debt increase under Obama is not different than it was under Bush is below Reagan for that matter. Yes, I know it's hard for you but the economy is growing exponentially and rates of growth do matter far more than nominal increases.

Second Obama has used debt to put the economy back on a growth trajectory. Whereas Trump is using debt, at a time when the economy doesn't need it, to give more money to rich people. Doing so, he guaranties that the US will be in a much deeper hole when the next downturn inevitably comes.
21   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 12:15pm  

And don't forget the aggressive philandering of JFK & LBJ - although that was a different era. Clinton was a Boomer just like Trump. Their birthdays are two months apart.
22   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 12:16pm  

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Clinton was a serial sex pest -


Yeah we really need to compare a consensual extra-marital affair with extra-marital affairs with prostitutes that are then paid to shut-up and then sue you. Again it's unlikely that any other politician carrier would have survived this.

But of course, all the holier-than-thou blessed-asses evangelicals are perfectly happy to look the other way.

Call it however you want, but don't, for a minute, tell us it's all TDS.
23   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Jul 20, 12:24pm  

Half the "lies" are actually made up by the media.

For instance, this instance which had previously been debunked here at Pat.net (Notably most TDS suffer'ers did not acknowledge that the media and the left are making this up)

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/aug/08/tim-kaine/tim-kaine-falsely-says-trump-said-all-mexicans-are/

And Breitbart actually publishes the transcript here:

https://www.breitbart.com/live/vice-presidential-debate-fact-check-livewire/fact-check-donald-trump-not-call-mexicans-rapists-criminals/

Yet you still have buffoons in the media and entertainment industry like Whoopi Goldberg, who have bought the propaganda line fully and chomped down hard, repeating the lies in public forum as though they are true:

http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/19/judge-jeanine-pirro-the-view-whoopi-mistreatment/

There are MANY other lies that the media and entertainment complex now has imbedded in society and culture and are totally false:

Freddie Gray
Trayvon Martin*
Immigration.

All of the above as protrayed in popular culture are absolutely false. All of the above have been completely proven false narratives by posters here on Pat.net.

Additionally there have been MANY MANY items that President Obama was given a pass on, whereas Trump would be crucified. Or do you think there would be silence from the MSM and the entertainment left if President Trump handed the Iranians a ton of cash in exchange for a non enforcable arms agreement?

Yes President Trump embellishes and lies. There is no doubt and I don't think theres anyone other than Kellyanne Conway saying that he doesn't. If you notice, guys he hammered like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz....Senators who have no problem bucking their party leadership when they see fit....come out in support of President Trumps decisions on a frequent basis.

Point being that the media and entertainment establishment are making things so much worse. Heraclitusstudent you are now experiencing what many of us do...that is there is so much noise around the criticism of the Presidents(both Trump and Obama), that its very difficult to defend whats right and criticize whats wrong. As a Trump supporter I find that its next to impossible to criticize the things he does wrong because the media and the left are busy criticizing made up stuff that must be answered first.

* I welcome anyone to debate me on Trayvon Martin and whether or not it was an incident born out of racism and if Trayvon was justifiable killed. Only parameter is you cannot accuse me of racism and if you make an unverifiable or emotional claim and its pointed out, you are required to acknowledge your error.
24   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 12:34pm  

NuttBoxer says
It's not about Trump being a good President. It's about status quo.


For everyone that doesn't like globalism, corporatism, and identity politics: Trump has discredited the opposition to these ideas, and a large part of the population will see a swing back toward them as a return to sanity.

On a question like China, he doesn't have what it takes to change the current trajectory. Any reasonable American leader would have coordinated with allies. American led multilateralism has long been the true strength of America, starting with the Marshall plan. Trump is paranoiac enough to see everyone else as a threat.
25   mell   2018 Jul 20, 12:35pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
But of course, all the holier-than-thou blessed-asses evangelicals are perfectly happy to look the other way.


There are many religious conservatives who have criticized or even denounced Trump over this. I don't think many that take religious sexual morals very seriously are looking the other way. It's just that Trump has a lot of support from other groups as well, he isn't the perfect candidate for the religious right for sure. But he's got something for everyone.
26   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 12:39pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Yeah we really need to compare a consensual extra-marital affair with extra-marital affairs with prostitutes that are then paid to shut-up and then sue you. Again it's unlikely that any other politician carrier would have survived this.

But of course, all the holier-than-thou blessed-asses evangelicals are perfectly happy to look the other way.

Call it however you want, but don't, for a minute, tell us it's all TDS.


Wait. Clinton paid a settlement to the woman who accused him of USING THE POLICE to bring her to his office. She thought she was getting a promotion, and he started groping her. This, and many other accusations of groping and abuse, came out during his Presidency.

Democrats in America pooh poohed the whole thing at the time, and wrote articles about how we should be like France, and ignore these kinds of "piccadilloes"

Now the Same People claim that having consenual sex with a hooker or making locker room talk in a private conversation are somehow unforgivable acts of Anti-Women Violence.

It's total bullshit.
27   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 12:45pm  

CovfefeButDeadly says
there is so much noise around the criticism of the Presidents(both Trump and Obama), that its very difficult to defend whats right and criticize whats wrong. As a Trump supporter I find that its next to impossible to criticize the things he does wrong because the media and the left are busy criticizing made up stuff that must be answered first.


There is so much noise because Trump has been adept at deliberately provoking outrage. His actions happen behind constant shrieks of protest from the media about things he says. All signs are that he wants it this way. This is not particularly a good sign from someone that explicitly wants to make the media "the opposition party".
28   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Jul 20, 12:46pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
criticizing made up stuff that must be answered first.


There is so much noise because Trump has been adept at deliberately provoking outrage. His actions happen behind constant shrieks of protest from the media about things he says. All signs are that he wants it this way. This is not particularly a good sign from someone that explicitly wants to make the media "the opposition party".


I think its mandatory considering the number of false things that the MSM has pushed, not to mention the full 24/7 propaganda of CNN and MSNB Hee Haw.
29   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 12:49pm  

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Democrats in America pooh poohed the whole thing at the time, and wrote articles about how we should be like France, and ignore these kinds of "piccadilloes"


In France, DSK had his carrier ended (at a time when he was in line to be president) after being accused of rape and after rumors of sex parties with hookers.

Now discussing more payments, to Playboy model. I wonder why this didn't happen to Clinton.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-mcdougal/lawyer-cohen-taped-trump-discussing-payment-to-playboy-model-nyt-idUSKBN1KA29P
30   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 1:09pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Now discussing more payments, to Playboy model. I wonder why this didn't happen to Clinton.


Did Trump use the State Police to bring State Employees to his office, then grope them?

Heraclitusstudent says
In France, DSK had his carrier ended (at a time when he was in line to be president) after being accused of rape and after rumors of sex parties with hookers.

DSK wasn't President, just in line to be, and the party removed him to avoid controversy. Not a similar thing.

His accuser also, if I remember, went to the Hotel Staff who collaborated part of her story. Wasn't he gunning for the World Bank or IMF or something?
31   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 20, 1:15pm  

A Classic "It's just picadilloes, let's be sophisticated French, Hon Hon Hon." Piece from 1998


We'll know the rules have changed if the Monica Lewinsky tale is confirmed, or at least never convincingly disproved, and Clinton survives. Is it possible that an episode as intense as this one can just fade away without fundamentally changing anything?

....

It's possible, even probable at the moment, that Clinton will neither be forced out of office nor even be seriously crippled by this sordid and comic drama. And if that happens -- whatever you may think about it -- at least we won't have to take any more world-weary guff from the French.


http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/02/time/kinsley.html

Michael Kinsley.

Man, the flashbacks.

Ken Starrrrrrr, Larry. that no-good Ken Starrrrrr! It's a Witch Hunt! Sexual McCarthyism! - James Carville.
32   NuttBoxer   2018 Jul 20, 1:40pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
the true strength of America, starting with the Marshall plan


How 'bout the Domino Theory?

"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible."

- George Washington
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp
33   Shaman   2018 Jul 20, 2:41pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

There is so much noise because Trump has been adept at deliberately provoking outrage. His actions happen behind constant shrieks of protest from the media about things he says. All signs are that he wants it this way. This is not particularly a good sign from someone that explicitly wants to make the media "the opposition party".


When the media is a dishonest propaganda machine for the enemies of the Republic, it’s fair game to play them as unfairly as possible. Everyone with two functioning brain cells understands that the mainstream media is utterly owned and controlled by six billionaires who are pro-globalism, pro-New World Order, pro-mass immigration, anti-worker, pro-debt, and pro-military industrial complex. They use social issues du jour and racial issues as a way of muddying the waters and dividing people into camps. Before Trump, those camps were divided down red and blue lines, but the party leadership of BOTH sides was following the script and the agenda set down by these billionaires. Therefore it truly did not matter who was elected. The game was rigged!

Then Trump came to play, shook up the game, and somehow won the primary over the strenuous objections of the GOP party itself! Fortunately, unlike the Democrats, the Republicans didn’t outright cheat to thwart the outsider candidate from assuming their top spot. They did everything else tho, including putting up a resistance to Trumpian ideas that has lasted through today.
As the GOP has been gradually subsumed by the party of MAGA, which is diametrically opposed to the billionaire globalists in most ways, the media mouthpieces of these owners have become increasingly shrill! Their game isn’t working anymore, and the opposition party (Democrats) are losing support daily through their continued support of the globalist agenda! When the Republicans were also on board with this agenda, the people had no choice and were forced to make do with subtleties about meaningless social issues. But now that the GOP has been (partially) reformed into a party that more accurately represents the will of the majority, it’s looking very attractive to voters at large. As the primaries weeded out GOPe incumbents and ushered in new MAGA Republican candidates, the choice is even more stark.

Will you side with your billionaire owners or will you side with the American people? It’s really just that simple.
35   Goran_K   2018 Jul 20, 3:16pm  

@Heraclitusstudent, knock it off with the personal insults. Not a smart move to send salvos towards mods (and I know you're a smart guy). I've nuked the offending comment. Play nice!
36   NDrLoR   2018 Jul 20, 3:18pm  

I read or heard someone compare what the left is going through as the five stages of grief--one of them is anger, evolving through bargaining and finally acceptance, but they're stuck at anger and can't get off it.
37   Goran_K   2018 Jul 20, 3:28pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Obama didn't brag about grabbing pussies, paid prostitutes to shut-up, insulted dead US soldiers and sided with Putin against his own CIA.

No, Obama just paid hundreds of millions of dollars to give Iran nuclear weapons, sent thousands of guns to the cartels (while trying to take them away from legal US citizens), left actual US soldiers to die when he could have had them saved and then tried to blame their deaths on a "youtube video", and told the Russians he would have "more flexibility to deal" once he was reelected in 2012.

Am I missing anything?
38   lostand confused   2018 Jul 20, 3:43pm  

Wow great post in the OP-such poetry in a tiem fo utter madness-like an oasis in the desert.

As someone who used to be mostly left, what the hell happened to the democrats?? Mass madness.
39   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Jul 20, 4:08pm  

Quigley says
Everyone with two functioning brain cells understands that the mainstream media is utterly owned and controlled by six billionaires who are pro-globalism, pro-New World Order, pro-mass immigration, anti-worker, pro-debt, and pro-military industrial complex. They use social issues du jour and racial issues as a way of muddying the waters and dividing people into camps. Before Trump, those camps were divided down red and blue lines, but the party leadership of BOTH sides was following the script and the agenda set down by these billionaires.


Exactly, except instead of discussing globalism, immigration, anti labor policies, debt and crony capitalism, people are now screaming about pussy grabbers, Stormy Daniels, shitty nations, kids separated from their mothers, immigrants are rapists, etc, etc... Everything fell down to Trump's level.

There is no nuanced debate of complex ideas. There is in fact no debate and no ideas. There is not even a common notion of truth.
There are just 2 sides that ramming into each others, and the original post is an excellent example of that: everything blamed on Trump is just in the head of leftists. The other side is just crazy people. No sorry, it's not.
40   mell   2018 Jul 20, 4:36pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Quigley says
Everyone with two functioning brain cells understands that the mainstream media is utterly owned and controlled by six billionaires who are pro-globalism, pro-New World Order, pro-mass immigration, anti-worker, pro-debt, and pro-military industrial complex. They use social issues du jour and racial issues as a way of muddying the waters and dividing people into camps. Before Trump, those camps were divided down red and blue lines, but the party leadership of BOTH sides was following the script and the agenda set down by these billionaires.


Exactly, except instead of discussing globalism, immigration, anti labor policies, debt and crony capitalism, people are now screaming about pussy grabbers, Stormy Daniels, shitty nations, kids separated from their mothers, immigrants are rapists, etc, etc... Everything fell down to Trump's level.

There is no nuanced debate of complex id...


Sure, DT's politics are controversial and there seem to be points of gripe for many, but the unhinged, undemocratic, and fascist behavior is coming from the left. That is what the original article claims and the author is spot on here. I don't think the OP claimed that DT is always right or never lies or embellishes etc.

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