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1   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 1, 8:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Exactly that is my point as well. The few incidences were a WS or other deranged person thought to be belonging to the "right" commit acts of violence literally drown in the sea of leftoid group violence. And again, that is not specific to the US. It's the currently same pattern in every western country. Hence the swing to nationalistic and more law and order governments.
2   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 1, 8:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The FBI has identified right wing groups as the number one threat in America for about 22 years now.

During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat to the country.


https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

We do live in a post-truth country now.
4   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 1, 8:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

All these domestic extremist groups are a concern to the FBI and they are all right wing affiliated.

Domestic Extremist Ideologies
Violent extremists based in the United States have different beliefs that lead them to commit crimes and acts of violence. Some of the most common domestic ideologies are listed here. It is important to note that it is legal to have hateful or extremist beliefs as long as you don’t commit crimes or violence based on those beliefs. The right to assemble (or gather) in groups is also protected by the U.S. Constitution.

Sovereign Citizen Extremists

What They Believe: Sovereign citizens believe they are separate or “sovereign” from the United States even though they live here. They think they don’t have to answer to any government authority. Sovereign citizens use their beliefs to justify fraud and other non-violent crimes. But some sovereign citizen extremists turn to violence and commit murder, threaten public officials, and destroy property as part of their anti-government, anti-tax beliefs.

Who or What They Target: Sovereign citizen violent extremists usually target members of the government—including judges, police officers, and tax officials. In 2010, for example, a sovereign citizen extremist killed two Arkansas police officers during a routine traffic stop.

Anarchist Extremists

What They Believe: Anarchist extremists believe that society should have no government, laws, or police, and they are loosely organized, with no central leadership. Violent anarchist extremists believe that such a society can only be created through force.

Who or What They Target: Violent anarchist extremists usually target symbols of capitalism they believe to be the cause of all problems in society—such as large corporations, government organizations, and police agencies. They damage property, cause riots, and set off firebombs. In some cases, they have injured police officers.

Abortion Extremists

What They Believe: Some abortion extremists believe that violence and bloodshed are justified to support their different beliefs on abortion. These violent extremists have turned to murder, bombings, assault, vandalism, kidnapping, and arson. They have also made death threats and sent hate mail and suspicious packages.

Who or What They Target: Violent anti-abortion extremists have targeted women’s reproductive clinics and the health care professionals and staff who work in these facilities, including doctors, nurses, receptionists, and even security guards. In one case in 2009, for example, a Kansas doctor who performed abortion services was shot and killed in his local church by an anti-abortion extremist. Those who use violence to defend abortion rights have murdered, threatened, and attacked those who oppose abortion.

Militia Extremists

What They Believe: A militia is a group of citizens who come together to protect the country, usually during an emergency. Some militia extremists, however, seek to violently attack or overthrow the U.S. government. Often calling themselves “patriots,” they believe the government has become corrupt, has overstepped its constitutional limits, or has not been able to protect the country against global dangers.

Who or What They Target: Violent militia extremists mainly target those they believe could violate their constitutional rights, such as police officers and judges. In one 2010 case, a Michigan militia group planned to kill a police officer and later attack the parade of cars in the funeral, hoping to start a large battle. The FBI and its partners stopped them from carrying out their plan.

White Supremacy Extremists

What They Believe: White supremacy extremists are motivated by a hatred of other races and religions. Some try to achieve their political and social goals through violence. These violent extremists often wrongly believe that the U.S. government is hurting the country or secretly planning to destroy it.

Who or What They Target: White supremacy violent extremists target the federal government and racial, ethnic, and religious minorities. Their methods have included murder, threats, and bombings. As just one example, white supremacists attacked a pair of Middle Eastern men on New Year’s Eve in 2011, punching one victim in the face and head.
5   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 1, 8:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

2A and Stand your Ground.
6   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 1, 8:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

In order to get obedience, left uses force and coercion. It’s how communism ever took hold.
7   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 1, 8:58pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Am I the only one who thinks left is gender confused and violent?
Lamaty says
Am I the only one who think Trump supporters seem like big pussies?
8   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 1, 9:08pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Lamaty says
Am I the only one who think Trump supporters seem like big pussies?


Hi very embarrassed former poster shitposting from TDS!

How's the economy doing?
Did the World end yet?
When will the Alt-Right Gestapo kick down my door and take me to the Kosher Prison?
Have Blacks been lynched yet?

Boy, Putin's bitch is really increasing US Military spending and strengthening the economy. Who knew Putin was such a pro-American Patriot!
9   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 4:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

This thread title is so easily disproven it is a monument to the power of propaganda.

https://americasvoice.org/trumphatemap/
https://www.businessinsider.com/why-trump-supporters-are-getting-so-violent-2016-10
https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/2018-summer-hate-america-caught-tape-170729949.html

Trump even encourages violence at his rallies:

“There may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience,” Trump warned people at a rally in Iowa last month. “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.”
10   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 2, 6:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/14/neo-nazi-driver-charged-first-degree-murder-charlottesville-car-attack/954321001/

Meanwhile the Right is taking a page out of the Conservative Islamic playbook and plowing into crowds committing murder
11   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 2, 6:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Meanwhile the Right is taking a page out of the Conservative Islamic playbook and plowing into crowds committing murder


The guy was fleeing from Leftist violent Liberal Commies. Three people hit the car with aluminum ball bats after the crash.

Liberals are Thugs, and he was fearing for his life.

Cop to Liberal thugs:"Why did you run? You caused a 5 car collision that killed three people."
Thug:"I was scared!"
Liberal Press: "Those insufferable Cops terrorizing Black people!"
12   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 2, 6:48am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
Aphroman says
Meanwhile the Right is taking a page out of the Conservative Islamic playbook and plowing into crowds committing murder


The guy was fleeing from Leftist violent Liberal Commies. Three people hit the car with aluminum ball bats after the crash.

Liberals are Thugs, and he was fearing for his life.

Cop to Liberal thugs:"Why did you run? You caused a 5 car collision that killed three people."
Thug:"I was scared!"
Liberal Press: "Those insufferable Cops terrorizing Black people!"


The guy races his car into a crowd of people, murdering a young lady, and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat after the murder

Pathetic
13   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 6:57am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat


The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.
14   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 7:05am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Walk around with a Hillary hat and sticker on car nothing happens, do the same with Trump stuff attacked/harassed and car keyed/destroyed.
Right wing gatherings get disrupted by left, left wing gathering nobody on the right cares.
Both sides have there crazy fringe but on the left it completely dwarfs the right and has became normalized.
15   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 2, 7:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Aphroman says
and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat


The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.


Are you familiar with the events surrounding the incident where the Right winger went Conservative Islamic and raced his car into a crowd of Americans, murdering one of them?


I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.
16   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 8:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
CBOEtrader says
Aphroman says
and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat


The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.


Are you familiar with the events surrounding the incident where the Right winger went Conservative Islamic ...


Sure you can focus on one thing for every 100 the left does.

Republicans just playing baseball not even doing anything at a rally or protest just playing baseball, would have been totally slaughtered if not for a body guard.

Republicans just trying to have a meal nothing else, harassed denied service.

This shit is happening constantly and is just pushing what sane people are in the democratic party away. Eventually people on the right are going to loose their shit to then things are going to escalate really fast between both sides.
17   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 8:15am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is a damning indictment...

CBOEtrader says
Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.
18   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 2, 8:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Aphroman says
CBOEtrader says
Aphroman says
and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat


The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can't, because that only happens on the left.


Are you familiar with ...


That one “thing” is an American losing her life at the hands of a Right Winger. How many Right Wingers have the violent leftists murdered
19   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 2, 8:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Eventually people on the right are going to loose their shit to then things are going to escalate really fast between both sides.


Exactly correct.

and these are the crazy lunatics who own all the guns.

It won't be pretty.
20   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 8:31am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Trump even encourages violence at his rallies:


That old conspiracy theory? What’s next? Trump kidnapped the Lindbergh baby?
It is to laugh.
21   theoakman   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 8:33am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Even Iwog almost got assaulted at a left wing rally at Berkeley because he was white and had a camera.
22   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 8:37am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        



Something to laugh about for a while
23   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 8:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
RC2006 says
Aphroman says
CBOEtrader says
Aphroman says
and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat


The people w bats and bricks showed up to a planned rally with expressed intent of violently oppressing 1st amendment rights.

This Fields kid overreacted and killed that girl. He will be punished accordingly.

Someone overreacting to being cornered by a violent mob has nothing to do with political ideology, and everything to do with this kid's inability to deal w a stressful situation. Patrick's post is about political ideologies warping soft minds into violence.

Show us a scene where trump supporters outnumber and violently bully someone. You can'...


Black lives matter shooter killed 4 (?) cops out of cold blood.
24   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 9:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says


Something to laugh about for a while


When a mob is threatening you, rolling over them w your car may be a rational decision.
25   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 9:42am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
That old conspiracy theory? What’s next? Trump kidnapped the Lindbergh baby?
It is to laugh.


Conspiracy theory? I provided a direct quote for God's sake. What more evidence do you need??
26   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 10:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
ONLY the left is violent


That's because they're sooo tolerant!
27   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 2, 10:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
The guy races his car into a crowd of people, murdering a young lady, and you see the danger as the people who hit his car with a bat after the murder

and they don't see even one of his 4230 lies either. They're looking to crucify anyone who mentions even one of them.

I'm not sure pathetic is the right word for it.
28   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 2, 11:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Eventually people on the right are going to loose their shit to then things are going to escalate really fast between both sides.

Yes that s going to happen.

People outside the Trump bubble see a cult promoting corporate fascism. They want to make a stand against the propaganda.

This is going to get confusing because those who are powerful AND well connected are going to make a bizarre circus to the extent that nobody can trust any source. Sinclair TV has synchronized must-air messages directly from the Trump administration to a nationwide group of local TV news in all the swing states. They heard that people tend to believe local news more than the MSM.

This is going to be a wild ride. And you people in the cult of Trump are going to keep encountering public denouncements.
29   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 11:08am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@jazz_music
@Aphroman
@LeonDurham

While I certainly don't have a bone in this fight(haven't voted for years, don't believe in any president making my life better), I have to side with Patrick given that he's listed so many specific incidents showing Trump supporters being assaulted, and the three of you, despite all your comments, seem to have at the most one link that shows Trump supporters assaulting others.
30   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 2, 11:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
the three of you, despite all your comments, seem to have at the most one link that shows Trump supporters assaulting others.


This whole thread is in response to my thread yesterday of 10 violent incidents by Trump supporters.

Patrick deleted that thread, but the links are still on the internet.

You can use the internet too.

On the other hand you can side with whoever you want.

You can side with Patrick because I haven't provided the links to off set his.

Especially after my post got deleted last night.
31   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 2, 11:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How is this even a debate? Leftist/Democrats created their own "brown shirt" wing called "ANTIFA". Their emblem even looks the same.

33   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 2, 11:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
The FBI has identified right wing groups as the number one threat in America for about 22 years now.

During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat to the country.


https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states

We do live in a post-truth country now.

That was from before Trump was elected. Back when he was celebrated by the same people that suffer from TDS now.

Got one incident of "right wing violence" lately?
34   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 2, 11:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
As just one example, white supremacists attacked a pair of Middle Eastern men on New Year’s Eve in 2011, punching one victim in the face and head.

I stand corrected. Those white supremists are violent.
35   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 11:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Well iwog did play a part in that by calling the kiddie libbie a little shit...
theoakman says
Even Iwog almost got assaulted at a left wing rally at Berkeley because he was white and had a camera
36   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 2, 11:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Leftist/Democrats created their own "brown shirt" wing called "ANTIFA

You are mistaken. You are attributing a phenomenon to discredit organizations.

ANTIFA is not connected to any party or organization.

ANTIFA itself is void of organization and structure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
37   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 2, 11:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Why don't you repost it without your commentary that got it ejected?
That would be evidence in your favor.
jazz_music says

Patrick deleted that thread, but the links are still on the interne
38   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 2, 11:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Are you familiar with the events surrounding the incident where the Right winger went Conservative Islamic and raced his car into a crowd of Americans, murdering one of them?

I don't associate with and refuse to be lumped together with nazis.
40   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 2, 12:21pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
ANTIFA is not connected to any party or organization.

ANTIFA itself is void of organization and structure.


Can you provide any examples of Antifa protesting or beating the shit out of any Left Wing groups like they do Conservative groups all over the country?

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