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Cancer cells susceptible to starvation

By Patrick following x   2018 Aug 6, 9:45am 195 views   10 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


I saw an article recently about how some form of lung cancer was especially susceptible to disruption in its nutrient supplies, much more than normal cells are. So simple fasting may help slow down cancer. I couldn't find the original article, but there are some others, like this one about breast cancer:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161121162442.htm

I expect the drug industry won't like this at all! How can they possibly make money when the treatment is to simply not eat?
1   TrumpCuck   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 6, 10:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
I saw an article recently about how some form of lung cancer was especially susceptible to disruption in its nutrient supplies, much more than normal cells are. So simple fasting may help slow down cancer.


Nothing in the article indicates or implies that fasting will slow down cancer. It says that if cystine uptake is blocked, one certain type of tumor cell may die.

Patrick says
I expect the drug industry won't like this at all! How can they possibly make money when the treatment is to simply not eat?


The object of these types of studies are to discover new biological targets for novel drugs. The point is that a drug could be made that selectively blocks cystine uptake in tumor cells.

The pharmaceutical industry didn't give anyone breast cancer. However, they have invented and brought to the clinic many lifesaving cures for cancer. Why try to villainize them?
2   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (32)   2018 Aug 6, 10:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TrumpCuck says
The point is that a drug could be made that selectively blocks cystine uptake in tumor cells.


Right and isolating compounds that can target and deliver incentives for said suppression is where these goombahs earn their supper.
3   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 6, 10:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

So simple fasting may help slow down cancer.

How do you figure? ‘Simple fasting’ doesn’t lead to immediate cell starvation. It just flips the switch to feeding the cells with ketones.

High sugar/HFCS/carb diets afford ideal conditions for cancer to thrive, as well as excess fat storage. Low to no sugar/HFCS/carb is the remedy, which creates an environment similar to fasting by feeding cells with ketones.

This is why ketogenic diets are so successful at solving most problems caused by SAD (standard Americans diet)
4   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 6, 10:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

If cancer cells are addicted to cystine, why not just send them to rehab?
5   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 6, 11:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TrumpCuck says
The pharmaceutical industry didn't give anyone breast cancer. However, they have invented and brought to the clinic many lifesaving cures for cancer. Why try to villainize them?


That is a good point.
6   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 6, 11:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Because they manipulate our laws to prevent the free market from working so that they can extort the maximum amount of money from ill people.

Examples: prohibition on import of drugs from Canada, prohibition on Medicare's negotiating drug prices

Don't believe their bullshit about needing vast profits to support their research. They spend more on advertising than research, and use publicly-funded research more than their own.
7   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 6, 11:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
Because they manipulate our laws to prevent the free market from working so that they extort the maximum amount of money from ill people.

Examples: prohibition on import of drugs from Canada, prohibition on Medicare's negotiating drug prices

Don't believe their bullshit about needing vast profits to support their research. They spend more on advertising than research, and use publicly-funded research more than their own.


You’re omitting the most obvious of all (presumably intentionally because it makes Republicans look worse than ISIS), with the Republicans War on Drugs, especially Hemp/Cannabis Prohibition. Failed Anti American Losers
8   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 6, 11:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

A cancer patient in a keto doc said she cured herself by eliminating sugar. Apparently it's a central energy source for cancer. Not fucking easy to eliminate though, it's in everything.
9   curious2   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 6, 12:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TrumpCuck says
The pharmaceutical industry didn't give anyone breast cancer. However, they have invented and brought to the clinic many lifesaving cures for cancer. Why try to villainize them?


Drug companies have delivered some real progress, and I hope the new right to try law may accelerate the process of trying in people. The current standard of clinical trials adds a decade of delay between (a) the development of an evidence-based potential cure, and (b) its deployment to people who might benefit from it.

Drug companies have also lobbied to distort public policy towards infinite subsidies for whatever drugs are approved, even if they are only injurious (e.g. chemotherapy in many instances), and to prohibit competition (e.g. cannabis). The Rockefeller family invested in drug companies and "donated" to medical schools to distort curricula away from diet&exercise&osteopathy and towards allopathy, and the notorious Rockefeller Drug Laws ruined many lives. The Sackler family profited enormously from the Oxycontin fraud, which is a tragedy.

Drug companies have also distorted public research funding in the direction of their own revenue models, i.e. daily pills protected by patent.n Obamacare banned importation and increased border enforcement funding, as part of the initially secret deal between PhRMA and the White House. (The White House denied it, so Billy Tauzin went public with the terms and a demand that the White House acknowledge them, which the White House admitted then.) The "sequester" blocked research funding, preventing disruptive innovation and protecting PhRMA's infinite subsidies under Medicare D and Obamacare.

Meanwhile, "there is accumulating evidence that sugar consumption is associated with increased cancer risk, recurrence, and mortality. Specifically, high blood sugar levels lead to conditions such as high insulin levels and obesity, which both increase the risk for cancer."

Real public health research would prioritize inexpensive cures and would let people try them without delay. Lemon socialism subsidizes corporate revenues and prohibits competition and disruptive innovation.
10   HEYYOU   ignore (16)   2018 Aug 6, 12:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I'm a patnetter,so I believe crazy shit.
Drug companies have cures for many different cancers,but there is no money in cures.
How many other diseases do they have cures for? We are desperate for a cure for
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