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In the name of Free Speech

By Aphroman following x   2018 Aug 7, 10:10pm 671 views   35 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Let’s make Patnet Great Again and bring back Free Speech

The site was far better than

The mods serve no purpose and they haven’t improved the site at all, so we can go back to the old days of everyone being equals and remove the ability of some to censor things they don’t personally like

Free Speech ftw!

Biased Censoring moderators is for Failed Losers!
1   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 7:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
The mods serve no purpose and they haven’t improved the site at all, so we can go back to the old days of everyone being equals and remove the ability of some to censor things they don’t personally like


FPBT says
Patrick says
What we should do is defy all attempts at censorship politely but with unwavering determination.


I have tried but I still get censored at this site. If you are against censorship then why is it practiced here? Look at my email address, you will recognize it, scratch your head and wonder, how did he sign up again with that email address. Are you going to Censor this account too?
2   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 8, 8:57am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Those against free speech are really against free thought.
3   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 8, 8:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TrumpCuck says
Aphroman says
bring back Free Speech


Why don't you set up and maintain Aphroman.net and run it as a "free speech" site instead of complaining here? That would be a true exercise of free speech.


I'm not complaining, i'm offering advice to @Patrick, i do that all the time here to help him improve his site. Why would anyone not want Free Speech to return to Patrick.net?
4   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 8, 9:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
Those against free speech are really against free thought.


Yes and very unAmerican. Failed Losers!

There's a reason Free Speech was in the first Amendment. They wanted to get the most important stuff out front and center right off the bat

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Now if only we could get Christianity to butt the hell out of our government, then we'd really be making progress. Christianity has become very unAmerican the way they try and influence our government with their Failed Loser Religion of perverts and pedos. It's 2018, Make America Great and grow a brain!
5   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 11:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick isn't against free speech, he's against incessant flaming. Most site are. That's where the moderators come in. If you believe mods are going farther than that, definitely worth bringing up.
6   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2018 Aug 8, 11:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

DIE! Democrats & Republicans.
7   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 8, 11:49am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

IF we're not free to call users ASSHOLES! And TRUMPCUCKS! Freedom has no meaning.

Why debate issues, processes, facts, when we can sling ad homs?

If you want to vent at Trump supporters, go to Twitter.
8   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 7:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
That's where the moderators come in. If you believe mods are going farther than that, definitely worth bringing up.


It's been brought to his attention to no avail.
9   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2018 Aug 8, 8:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NO! NO! NO!

We must have Alex Jones on every page of every newspaper and website in the universe or libby tyranny will murder the constitution.

Editing Alex Jones is worse than shooting Jesus in the face during the sermon on the mount, which thank God libbys weren't able to do because IHLlary wasn't around back then to tell them what to do.
10   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 8:33pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is free speech. Just don’t insult people. It’s not that hard.

If you can’t get your point across without insulting posters Aphroman, it’s your shortcoming.
11   FPBT   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 8:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
This is free speech. Just don’t insult people. It’s not that hard.

If you can’t get your point across without insulting posters Aphroman, it’s your shortcoming.


Actually there have been insults made by those who shouldn't be making them then it's covered up and the offender lies about covering up his insults. It is frustrating that it's allowed to happen. The insults don't bother me it's the lies that really tick me off. Why can't people just be honest? Is it really that difficult?
12   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 8:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

That ability is what separated P.net from the lot of em...
with it gone it's just another reddit...

FortWayne says
Just don’t insult people.
13   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 8, 9:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FPBT says
It's been brought to his attention to no avail.


I've personally never had an issue, and I've disagreed with just about everyone on here at one point for another. Of course, I'm not a whiner.
14   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 8, 9:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NuttBoxer says
Of course, I'm not a whiner.


and that's where the rubber hits the road. Anyone want to take a guess which "Team" the whiners belong to?
15   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 15, 7:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
IF we're not free to call users ASSHOLES! And TRUMPCUCKS! Freedom has no meaning.

Why debate issues, processes, facts, when we can sling ad homs?

If you want to vent at Trump supporters, go to Twitter.


Lololol
That’s rich

I’m always here to discuss and debate issues
It’s the trump cucks who get all emotional and refuse to discuss anything

Looks whos slinging ad homs now

Congrats! Full on right wing retard mode is when you refuse to answer questions and instead revert to ad homs, censorship, and deflection

You never go full right wing retard!
16   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 15, 7:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FPBT says
FortWayne says
This is free speech. Just don’t insult people. It’s not that hard.

If you can’t get your point across without insulting posters Aphroman, it’s your shortcoming.


Actually there have been insults made by those who shouldn't be making them then it's covered up and the offender lies about covering up his insults. It is frustrating that it's allowed to happen. The insults don't bother me it's the lies that really tick me off. Why can't people just be honest? Is it really that difficult?


Nailed it
17   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 15, 7:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman you’ve got issues.

You constantly bash the site and other posters who disagree.

There is minimal moderation which keeps it to discussions instead of insults. Otherwise every thread turns into few people calling everyone a fag.

This moderation came as result of what liberal posters begged for when Sniper would insult them all day long. Just a little FYI. No anarchy here, works well. I think they got moderation right. Patrick experimented different ideas, this one so far works out best.
18   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 15, 7:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
Aphroman you’ve got issues.

You constantly bash the site and other posters who disagree.

There is minimal moderation which keeps it to discussions instead of insults. Otherwise every thread turns into few people calling everyone a fag.

This moderation came as result of what liberal posters begged for when Sniper would insult them all day long. Just a little FYI. No anarchy here, works well. I think they got moderation right. Patrick experimented different ideas, this one so far works out best.


Why do you need moderation to keep you from calling everyone a fag?

Why do you constantly think about gays?

Here’s the thing, i believe in an eye for an eye. I come here for discussion and debate of ideas. Once others start levying personal attacks at me, i simply return in kind.

I bet you $100 that you cannot show any instance where i fired the first shot

I’ve tried to be civil with everyone, when others start attacking, do you expect me to do nothing?

As to the moderators, Patrick just responded yesterday that he was working on a new fix for that problem. So, you’re wrong, again. I’m right, again

Seems to be a theme here
19   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2018 Aug 15, 8:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
Those against free speech are really against free thought.


Plenty of free thought here. It just doesn't make any sense. lol
20   SilversSurfer   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 15, 8:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I find marking personal is a waste of time. Better to just point out the personal attacks by quoting. That way people can't lie about not making personal attacks, not that I'm talking about anyone here.
21   SilversSurfer   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 15, 8:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MrMagic says
Aphroman says
I’ve tried to be civil with everyone,


Really?

Then why are you constantly in "Post Moderation" and why did you lead the pack in Comment Jail?


Aphroman wasn't here for comment jail so how could he have led the pack?
22   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Aug 15, 8:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SilversSurfer says
Aphroman wasn't here for comment jail so how could he have led the pack?


Just another fact free post on patnet.
23   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 15, 8:54am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You don’t insult people? Oh please, like a teenager you do Aphroman. You passively aggressively insult, and then claim idiot and pretend you did nothing wrong.

I don’t mind, it’s a forum on internet with anonymity. Just pointing out that you really shouldn’t pretend to be innocent. Or pretend to be a victim of moderation, when you started shit in the first place.
24   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 15, 9:19am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patnet is about free speech.

But Patrick is free to decide when people crossed the line. He has probably deleted more posts of mine than anyone else.
I just shrug it off, his site his right. Patrick has never deleted a Political thought or a post that wasn't attacking another user.
He's deleted several of mine where he misinterpreted that I was riling in general against a group of thought and not a person in general.
Like Hey You saying FU to all republicans. I don't take that personal. I don't think Republican is well defined anymore.
25   SilversSurfer   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 15, 9:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
But Patrick is free to decide when people crossed the line.


Patrick has always seemed like a fair moderator to me.
26   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 15, 9:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Lololol
That’s rich

I’m always here to discuss and debate issues
It’s the trump cucks who get all emotional and refuse to discuss anything

Looks whos slinging ad homs now


You degenerated into name calling when you got fwustwated on another thread and were in full "Don't Insult My Holt Saint Mary Jane, Center of the Universe" mode.

FortWayne says
You don’t insult people? Oh please, like a teenager you do Aphroman. You passively aggressively insult, and then claim idiot and pretend you did nothing wrong.


Pretty Much.
27   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 15, 9:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
I’ve tried to be civil with everyone, when others start attacking, do you expect me to do nothing?


LOL. Next time I'll screenshot when you start shit and then claim to be the victim.
28   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 15, 9:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
You don’t insult people? Oh please, like a teenager you do Aphroman. You passively aggressively insult, and then claim idiot and pretend you did nothing wrong.

I don’t mind, it’s a forum on internet with anonymity. Just pointing out that you really shouldn’t pretend to be innocent. Or pretend to be a victim of moderation, when you started shit in the first place.


That’s the thing though, i don’t ever start shit.

People fling poop at me, and then cry foul when i respond. I know in sports the instigator often escapes penalty and the retaliation is what draws the penalty, but this isn’t sports. This is a place to discuss ideas and share information. The problem is that some people aren’t on the level and can’t participate in the discussion, and have nothing to offer the debate, so they resort to personal attacks and try to stir shit.
29   SilversSurfer   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 15, 9:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says

You degenerated into name calling when you got fwustwated


Can we stop with the personal attacks?
30   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 15, 9:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SilversSurfer says
Aphroman wasn't here for comment jail so how could he have led the pack?


In a former profile that he asked to be deleted. Try to keep up.

Aphroman says
That’s the thing though, i don’t ever start shit.


Denial ain't a river in California.

SilversSurfer says
Can we stop with the personal attacks?


Why don't you like the Facts and the truth?
31   SilversSurfer   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 15, 10:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MrMagic says
SilversSurfer says
Aphroman wasn't here for comment jail so how could he have led the pack?


In a former profile that he asked to be deleted. Try to keep up.


I'm pretty sure Aphroman didn't go by the name of Cic. Cic is the person who I remember having the most post go to comment jail, and I'm pretty sure he got kicked off.
32   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Aug 15, 10:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

SilversSurfer says
I'm pretty sure he got kicked off.


CIC is here with a bunch of alts that constantly shift. The writing is hard to miss even with the insults cleaned up. Same phrases, same replies, same comments.
33   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 15, 11:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
That’s the thing though, i don’t ever start shit.


LOL, you did it last night.
34   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Aug 16, 2:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Aphroman says
That’s the thing though, i don’t ever start shit.


LOL, you did it last night.


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