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I learned to ignore the center in every supermarket. Meat and veggies are always on the outside in farthest corner possible.

FortWayne says

I learned to ignore the center in every supermarket.

Perhaps the problem I'm describing hasn't hit your neck of the woods yet.
If I took a snapshot you would wonder if this were a meat case in a tiny 7-11 or the meat case at a 24,000 sq ft Grocery Store.

Tenpoundbass says

While our lying fake news media tells us Meats and other fresh cooked food items will give you cancer, and all of the Idiots that buy into that hype.

Obviously the media (both left and right) gets plenty wrong, but I'm curious where you're getting this from. I don't think I've ever seen an article written by any self respecting journalist that claims 'fresh cooked food items' will give you cancer...

FortWayne says

I learned to ignore the center in every supermarket. Meat and veggies are always on the outside in farthest corner possible.

And the shelves full of candy, chips, and sodas near the checkout counter.

Evan F. says

. I don't think I've ever seen an article written by any self respecting journalist that claims 'fresh cooked food items' will give you cancer...

https://www.google.com/search?q=Red+meat+gives+you+cancer

Thank God you're here I thought all of the Coy Liberals were gone for good.

Wait, what... there's no Pop Tarts in your basket??

What are you, communist?

Tenpoundbass says

Thank God you're here I thought all of the Coy Liberals were gone for good.

I'm glad you took the time to read your own quote. I took issue with you adding 'fresh cooked food items' to your tirade against the 'fake news media.' Notice how I said nothing about red meat? No, you didn't notice.

That said, you linked to an article about the WHO claiming that red meat is carcinogenic. News flash: it is. But so are many other things, and obviously you're going to be much better off eating a nice porterhouse instead of some shitty Oscar meyers' scrap dogs, but you're probably even better off if you don't do it every goddamned day. I love getting a huge rack of ribs from whole foods- grass fed, organic, it's worth every penny. But I don't eat meat at every meal...

OK Princes thanks for missing the point. Yeah I'm talking about the 23.9K sqft of floor space dedicated to selling the processed shit. And a meat case that is only 8 feet long, that's with the Chicken, Pork, and Beef. The Hotdog and Bacon case was three times that.
Typical Liberal make every post about them. You're not the first Pork Chop I've been doing this for years.

Sorry, but it seemed like part of your point was to blame our nation's crappy diet on the 'fake news media.' Or did I misread your little screed? It seems to me that the news media is somehow to blame for all our nation's ills these days... It's become an old saw that's just lazy. Maybe look at the companies that are trying to sell you the garbage they want you to buy, instead. Oh wait, 4 of the 5 top donors from major food processors gave most of their money to Republican interests? That's inconvenient.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=A09++

Most grocery stores contain all the ingredients you need to cook healthy meals, but most shoppers just want ease and convenience so they buy the processed shit to save time.
Cooking your own meals using fresh ingredients will definitely improve your health.

Tenpoundbass says

The display for Bacon and Hot Dogs was at least three times longer with a wider veriety.

Tenpoundbass says

I left there went to a Walmart Neighborhood Market thingy, and their meat display was even more pathetic. I

I usually go to Walmart because I want to get in and out quickly.

I agree about their meat selection. They have like 4 types of beef, and that's it. If you want hot dogs, there's at least 16 different varieties.

Quigley says

Cooking your own meals using fresh ingredients will definitely improve your health.

Good luck trying to find them.

The point is I shop at corporate Grocery Store chains like Publix, Walmart, Winn Dixie less than 2% of my yearly food purchases. That I don't notice.
I do shop at Foodtown they have a horse shoe Fish Case that has pretty much ever seafood species available in Ameirca and Asia. It about 20 by 20 services three sides. So about 60 feet of fish counter. Then they have a meat case that is at least 35 feet. They have a Halal case that is about the size of Pulbix meat case less than 8 feet or so.
Then they have a butcher Glass encased counter where you pick out roasts and chunks of meat. I get 3 whole Skirt Steaks for under $30 it's usually $3.99 lb or less.
And can order whole loins and tenderloins. They'll cut it up anyway you ask them to.

Then I go to Doris meat market, they have a smaller meat case, but can pull anything out of the meat cooler and drying room you ask for. Doris was recently bought out, they go by Torino's now. Their Whole Loins went from $4.99lb to 8.99 to 12.99 I think they are trying to phase meat out as well. They still have a great Italian bakery, and great Deli Meats, and occasional meat on sale. They still have the $4.99 lb butcher bacon, but they don't stay on top of keeping it out. And claim they can't slice it on demand because the slab is frozen in the freezer.

I go to Pen Dutch they used to be cheap for meats but they've gotten more expensive than Foodtown and Doris used to be. Still a decent place.
They have about 30K sqft of floor space dedicated to meats, and probably 60K sqft of storage and processing space in the back.

I'll buy drygoods from all of these places rather than go to Pulbix, even though I'll spend more on those items, but I'm already there. But that's great, as it limits the dry good poison I buy and consume. As talk about limited selection, they don't have shit like Hamburger helper taking up shelf space, so you only getting quality dry goods the essentials to make a good meal.
It motivates me to buy the fresh produce that all three of those locations have better than Publix.

Those shops all close at 6PM. that's why I ended up Publix which I rarely ever go.

Sure, that might've been your point, but it wasn't your only one. You devoted a good amount of copy in your OP decrying the fake news media for telling us what to eat, and that the large food chains are selling us poison. I'd totally agree with you that large food processors sell mostly garbage, and it's wise to avoid it in favor of fresh/home cooked meals. MY point- in direct response to your point- was that it's mildly absurd to blame this on the fake news media (which, by implication, I'm sure you'll agree it's left leaning), when there are far more nefarious (and obvious) players in the food industry to blame... and perhaps unsurprisingly, they're decidedly right-leaning.

THAT was my point.

FortWayne says

Meat and veggies

Yeppers. Veggies are your friend. Just wash them well.

Evan F. says

You devoted a good amount of copy in your OP decrying the fake news media for telling us what to eat,

You do realize this trend isn't new? This trend started and I have rants on that as well. At the same time Michelle Obama was hocking her My Plate Icon and swore off the healthful Food Pyramid. I found it ironic then that the 35 foot long meat case back then had meat priced to Rot. They weren't moving meat. They were price motivating everyone to buy a cart load that looks just like the picture above. Our Grocery food chains, the Growers, and Food Processors have been colluding with the Government through Subsidies, and incentives grow, sale or chuck what ever the Commodities market demanded most. We're churning out so much corn that backed by so much tax dollars it's ridiculous and the Obama's knew the food con job they are running.

Corn and Corn by products is the most common food ingredient in those Grocery stores. Even those chocolate bars have HFCS. The fat in most all of those items is corn oil.

What?

Trying to parse what you wrote and give a meaningful response. I know very little about Michelle Obama's My Plate initiative, but looking at the website for it, it seems perfectly reasonable to me, mostly just a repackaged food pyramid. Nowhere do I see either photographs or recommendations for Velveeta, hot dogs, Oreos or Maxwell House. And what does this have to do with the fake news media? You didn't address that at all in your response.

And also, blaming the dominance of the corn industry on the Obama administration is comical. Agribusiness was transformed in the early 70s by USDA secretary Earl Butz, under the Nixon administration. That's when HFCS took over, that's when corn and soy production went into overdrive.. Butz completely restructured the way farms were subsidized. You should check out a doc called 'King Corn', came out like 10 years ago, pretty interesting.

Still, I'm not understanding the fake news media's share of the blame in all this.

The funny thing is that I wouldn't have engaged in this discussion at all, and would've been in total agreement with you, until you brought up the whole 'fake news media' thing.

Boom! It's like I have a window to the media's soul.

https://www.naturalnews.com/055031_FDA_food_labels_industry_influence.html

FDA claims Frosted Flakes are healthier than avocados, highlighting agency incompetence and corruption

Tenpoundbass says

Boom! It's like I have a window to the media's soul.

https://www.naturalnews.com/055031_FDA_food_labels_industry_influence.html

I don't understand, is Natural News part of the fake news media? Should I believe the opposite?

Or is the FDA part of the fake news media, and thus I shouldn't believe them? I was under the impression that the FDA was a federal agency run by Trump appointee Scott Gottlieb. I am unsure if the FDA employs any journalists.

ETA: reading that full article is pretty funny, dude. They place all of the blame on the FDA and, wouldn't you know it, major processed food manufacturers (Big Food, they're calling it). Also, no mention of how the 'fake news media' is secretly shoving Low-fat Pop Tarts down your throat.