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Paul Manafort Guilty of Eight Counts of Fraud And Judge Declares Mistrial on the Other 10 Counts

By APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch following x   2018 Aug 21, 1:53pm 4,268 views   74 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


https://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-manafort-jury-trial-verdict-day4-1534861860


It doesn't get better.

Leverage to get the flip right now - and more leverage waiting to use from retrial.

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35   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 21, 6:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Republicans shouldn't complain. They invented witch hunts... Monica Levinsky... Bengazi... You had it coming.
36   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 21, 6:24pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Remember when some people in Rome's senate wanted to arrest Julius Cesar over some technical violations?
What happened next?
37   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 21, 6:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I don't think they are particularly worried about justice.
38   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 21, 6:27pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yep, they made him choose between certain execution or overthrowing the state.

Then they turned to Pompey whom they also suspected of being a tyrant.

Of course, nobody ever mentions the precedent set by Sulla, probably because the Optimates, the Elites, who hated Caesar loved Sulla for protecting their privileges, removing the powers of the Plebe's Tribunes, and generally being one of their own. Even though unlike Caesar, who was magnanimous in victory, Sulla was merciless.
39   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Aug 21, 6:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
Headline: "Cohen testifies Trump told him to commit a crime."


That's it, execute Trump RIGHT NOW, based on hearsay from a guy going to jail for years.
40   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 21, 6:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
The problem I have is the whole false narrative of anything having to do with Russia when its really about going after and removing Trump by any means necessary.



Absolutely. Cohen pleaded to Charge #8 also, guess it was a package deal. It was already noted by the FEC that he didn't violate campaign rules.

Note also that Obama's Campaign took more money than they were supposed to and had to pay fines for violating those rules, and I think Rosie O'Donnell gave more than she was allowed.

Neither Palmiera, Podesta, or any Hillary or Obama Campaign Executive was targeted by the SDNY, Nor Rosie O'Donnell.

Selective prosecution
41   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 21, 6:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Yep, they made him choose between certain execution or overthrowing the state.


"overthrowing the state"? Nah... Cesar just committed a few more technical violations...
42   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 21, 6:41pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Don't think this will have any impact beyond Manafort and Cohen. What a waste of taxpayer money.
43   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 21, 7:03pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
This is the big problem IMO: nobody is even-handedly investigating that, and the exclusive focus on Trump associates ends up looking like a witch hunt. There is a concerted effort to ignore KSA influence, including registered foreign agent Tony Podesta co-hosting a Clinton fundraiser with his brother John, who was her campaign manager. The focus on Russia is a bipartisan distraction by the entrenched bipartisan coalition that rules the swamp.


That sounds correct to me.

I'm consistently amazed at how the Saudi influence in DC is never in the press.
44   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 21, 7:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Of course, nobody ever mentions the precedent set by Sulla, probably because the Optimates, the Elites, who hated Caesar loved Sulla for protecting their privileges, removing the powers of the Plebe's Tribunes, and generally being one of their own.


It does sound analogous.

The elites are afraid that their privileges, carried on the backs of the Plebes, are under threat by Trump.
45   clambo   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 21, 7:16pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Guilty of bank fraud. That is about every person I know who has applied for a mortgage or a car loan.

Tax fraud? I think also anyone who ever actually paid taxes has wished to engage in this.

Manafort is not so likable but it's no big deal. He is surely going to have a reduced sentence or be pardoned eventually.

Meanwhile, an illegal alien is murdering someone somewhere tonight...
46   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 21, 7:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
That’s odd, it seems like the elites are doing better than ever under Trump.


Much better than ever. The tax cut was manna from heaven. MAGA (for the .1%)
47   rdm   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 21, 8:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

clambo says
Guilty of bank fraud. That is about every person I know who has applied for a mortgage or a car loan.

Right 20 million in bank fraud, pretty much everybody does that. The Manafort trail is probably a way to get him cooperate, he is a criminal so perfectly legit. Will he? Does he know anything?

He made the mistake of hitching his corrupt wagon to the Trump train which exposed him to this, he is pretty fucking stupid and was desperate to keep buying 10K suits and jackets. Not a particularly sympathetic guy.

Cohen is a much bigger threat to Trump, it wouldn't surprise me that Manafort has nothing to offer the Feds about Trump but Trump may not know that and pardon him anyway. Manafort has good lawyers. That, would be a beautiful bluff. The stable genius ends up pardoning the wrong guy.
48   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 21, 9:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nobody gives a fuck that Cohen paid porn stars to sign an NDA on behalf of Trump.

Banging porn stars improves one's reputation with all Men and most Women, too.
49   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 21, 9:13pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Democrats did cover up Benghazi. They let Americans die.

And Monica did blow Bill on a job, although I don’t care about that one.

Heraclitusstudent says
Republicans shouldn't complain. They invented witch hunts... Monica Levinsky... Bengazi... You had it coming.
50   rdm   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 21, 9:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce
Banging porn stars improves one's reputation with all Men


No, not by a long stretch, so to speak. But raw doggin a porn star, that does show you are a complete idiot.
51   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 21, 10:43pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
If anyone i know had a quickie with a ragged old porn star


You are admitting this is irrelevant? I am failing to see why anyone cares. Many campaigns of recent memory had FAR larger campaign finance issues. Maybe Trump campaign will be fined, like Obama's was.

Please explain why this matters, if you think it matters. I do not.
52   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 21, 10:49pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
What a waste of taxpayer money.

Bingo!
53   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 22, 4:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

clambo says
Tax fraud? I think also anyone who ever actually paid taxes has wished to engage in this.


Feel free to give it a try. Let us know if it works out any better for you than manafort. Are you saying manafort shouldn't have been charged after they found it? Why is that?
54   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 22, 4:39am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
mell says
What a waste of taxpayer money.

Bingo!


Yup, just talking toa few friends of mine-theya re furious at this and at criminal justice. These were traditional law and order type. That you can potentially go to jail for 300 years for tax laws from 10 years ago is shocking. Cohen the rat-just initial -but it is energizing people . This may just work to increase the repubs support.

Now I ahte this country's criminal justice system-we are the gulag of the earth.This just confirms it. 300 years for taxes-great-

My hope is republicans will finally come tot heir senses and we may reform criminal justice.

BUt it will be sweet revenge when Trump fires Jessions and puts in a pitbull. Like that fool Tillerson and he put in Pompeo-Pompeo is awesome.

A bunch of pension thugs who are worse than the amfia living off of the suffering and torture of Americans by making everything under the sun as a crime. The war on drugs can go first.
55   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 22, 4:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
You’re not buying into the whole rust belt jobless folk who were wildly helped by the income tax cuts and bump in the stock market bit?

MAGA?


They always leave off the for who part of MAGA. It's like promising to bring back coal. The goal isn't to bring back coal to the 1990's, it's to bring back coal to the 1890's without all those pesky mine safety and cleaning up after yourself regulations cutting into profits.
56   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 22, 4:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
Yup, just talking toa few friends of mine-theya re furious at this and at criminal justice. These were traditional law and order type. That you can potentially go to jail for 300 years for tax laws from 10 years ago is shocking


It's shocking you can go to jail for committing a felony? Where was all this concern about the justice system and tax payer money when clinton was investigated for 5 years for getting a blow job?
57   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2018 Aug 22, 7:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I can't wait to see what Friday brings.
58   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 22, 7:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Are you saying manafort shouldn't have been charged after they found it? Why is that?


I am not aware of case details, but the dude seems guilty of being an all around scumbag. Hopefully they prosecute Podesta next for being a similar swamp creature.

Still nothing to do with Trump or his campaign though.
59   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 22, 7:40am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
But if all these Trump people are found guilty of felonies


You mean like child solicitation of sex or FISA abuses?

Your R vs D mindset is blinding you from the truth.
60   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 22, 8:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
it is just a Democrat Witch hunt that is headed by Republicans


The attempt to remove Trump from power is an establishment witch hunt wherein they can not allow a uncontrollable, non-secret society member to wield power for the american people. Notice the Bush family, Cheney, McCain, and all the other major R power players are anti-trump. HRC, McCain, and Comey are all playing on the same team.

Aphroman says
But if all these Trump people are found guilty of felonies


Who are "all these trump people"? Far more cretins on team HRC, including every imaginable crime. HRC remains relevant today BECAUSE her teams efforts to manipulate the election are the source of the current treasonous FISA warrant abuse and Trump witch hunt.
61   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 22, 8:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Only Sessions in that list has anything to do w Trump. Recusing himself was a mistake, agreed. Calling him a criminal is either a lie or a fantasy or just extreme TDS. Which?
62   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 22, 8:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Media is a joke. Total Trump tds. 0 anything people care about.

Liberal garbage.
63   rdm   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 22, 8:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says

Don’t be quoting me and falsely putting those words out my mouth, I’m not a Trumpcuck and i didn’t say that dumb shi


Sorry about that, not sure how that happened, it was unintentional.
64   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 22, 8:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
Yup, just talking toa few friends of mine-theya re furious at this and at criminal justice. These were traditional law and order type. That you can potentially go to jail for 300 years for tax laws from 10 years ago is shocking


Are they some kind of high-flying hedge-fund manager kind of types? Because I can't imagine sympathy to tax cheats from your regular working stiff. It's not like fucking Manafort has somehow missed a digit while transferring numbers from w-2 into 1040ez once in a blue moon...
65   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 22, 9:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Chris Collins and Duncan Hunter were the first two politicians to endorse Trump, and now they don't have anything to do with Trump?


This desire to smear someone based on endorsements is deeply flawed logic.
66   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 22, 9:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
it's not a lie or a fantasy, rather a simple statement of facts.


Ok show us how sessions is a criminal, lol. Or admit you just made this up
67   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2018 Aug 22, 9:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

2016: "Russia!"
2017: "Russia!"
2018: “told you we’d nail them on campaign finance and tax charges”
68   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 23, 9:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Manafort just got high octane Appeal/Mistrial fuel.

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69   bob2356   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 23, 10:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
bob2356 says
Are you saying manafort shouldn't have been charged after they found it? Why is that?


I am not aware of case details, but the dude seems guilty of being an all around scumbag.


The jury found him guilty of moving money in shell companies all around the world for tax evasion, not being a scumbag. If you have solid information podesta was doing the same then you should be bringing it to the justice department.
70   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 23, 10:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Manafort just got high octane Appeal/Mistrial fuel.


I hope so. Let's retry him and keep this in the news until November!
71   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2018 Aug 23, 5:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's clear that Manafort will die of a prolapsed colon in prison serving time for hundreds of crimes.

The only question is whether he'll be serving his time in the US or Russia?
72   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2018 Aug 23, 6:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

They'll have a hard time convicting or impeaching with this legacy hanging over their heads.
Trump has a better shot of reforming the whole lot of them and incarcerating them all before he leaves office. Than the Perps Asymmetric Campaign will bring down Trump.

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