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Trump’s base may not like him, but they’re not about to ditch him


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2018 Aug 25, 11:55am   4,391 views  26 comments

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/24/donald-trump-voters-impeachment-legal

To understand why, one must first rescue Trump supporters from caricature. Covering the presidential elections from Muncie, Indiana I was struck by how many of those who voted for him didn’t particularly like him. Among other things they described him as “garbage”, a “bully” and an “arrogant SOB”. “Unlike Hillary, at least he hasn’t done something criminal,” said one.

When I went back a year after his inauguration they still didn’t like him that much. “He just keeps opening his mouth and spews out word-vomit and I cringe,” said one. “He’s completely embarrassed the United States more than a handful of times.” “He’s like your drunk uncle at a party,” said another.

But to a person they thought he was doing a good job, pointing to his tax cuts, deregulation, supreme court nominations and stock market highs as evidence. As one woman put it: “He wouldn’t be someone I’d want to socialise with. I don’t appreciate his bad manners and his bullying. But I do appreciate his business and negotiating skills.” It was as though they had elected not a president but a CEO, and felt that you don’t have to like your boss so long as he keeps the company healthy. As Cathy De Grazia told the BBC: “I don’t care if he paid off a porn star or a Playboy bunny, that doesn’t impact his policymaking.”


This is spot-on, imho. Trump is easily the most effective and independent president in our lifetimes, and that's what really counts. He is not beholden to our owners, and so can do the right thing for the country without fear they will turn on him. Our owners were never on his side anyway. He was elected without their approval, which in itself is a remarkable accomplishment.

The continuous mischaracterization of his supports as "racist" simply helps solidify Trump's hold on the working class. They resent the lie. If you really want to get rid of Trump, drop the false accusations of "racism" and pick up Trump's policies, which concretely help the masses of US citizens who are suffering under the globalist agenda.

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1   lostand confused   2018 Aug 25, 2:23pm  

Chuck Todd from NBC openly calling for a coup-impeachment. I fear the left will drive us off a cliff of no return, where the police/military state rule with an iron fist and leaders who are controlled by the deep state are allowed. This is a test and if Trump breaks through the deep state hold-we may be saved-else we are doomed.

We already throw more people than any nation one earth. if the dems succeed-we will be like the soviet gulag. Anyone utter loudly offending thought is banned or in jail. It already looks that way -eg Alex Jones.
2   Tenpoundbass   2018 Aug 25, 2:55pm  

lostand confused says
I fear the left will drive us off a cliff of no return, where the police/military state rule with an iron fist and leaders who are controlled by the deep state are allowed.


I would welcome a Trump dictatorship and support the way our dear leader put down the Evil coup and had the perpetrators lined up and shot.
3   Patrick   2018 Aug 25, 2:57pm  

What? There should be no dictatorship by anyone.

This is still a democracy and should remain that way, no matter what our owners do to subvert the will of the people.
4   lostand confused   2018 Aug 25, 3:08pm  

Patrick says
What? There should be no dictatorship by anyone.

This is still a democracy and should remain that way, no matter what our owners do to subvert the will of the people.


Yup right wing dictatorship is no better than leftwing. Right wing dictatorships are more open-I ams tronger and therefore obey me or I kill you. leftwing on the other hand have a higher purpose and kill you and your family for the "greater good. " It is propaganda non stop-just like the MSM , the left and deep state is doing right now-it is very familiar to me and very, very scary.

We don't this current coup, but if it goes ahead-there will be enough support for a rightwing coup _I hope enough idnepndents see the dangers and vote repub.

I wish the entire criminal justice reform including the war on drugs is reformed due to this-one can only hope.
5   lostand confused   2018 Aug 25, 5:20pm  

Aphroman says
We don't this current coup, but if it goes ahead-there will be enough support for a rightwing coup _I hope enough idnepndents see the dangers and vote repub.


Lol


If a leftwing coup succeeds, you think the right is going to sit around and take it. They will do the same and this country will be a bloody mess-plenty of countries have been through violent civil struggles destroying millions , ripping apart families.

Democracy si the best bet-if you don't like the results-there is always the enxt election. Coup and also using the police state by one side-will lead to disaster and is not a laughing matter.
6   marcus   2018 Aug 25, 5:43pm  

Patrick says
But to a person they thought he was doing a good job, pointing to his tax cuts, deregulation, supreme court nominations and stock market highs as evidence.


Wait, do you mean that humans have an ego, and want to think that their vote was not the biggest mistake of their entire life ? Tell me it isn't so.

If admitting one is wrong when they are wrong was a hallmark of human nature, then these observations here would have some kind of meaning.

Nixon voters might have been ever so slightly more able to admit they were wrong about Nixon at some point. But at that point in history we weren't talking about the all time most narcissistic self involved generation of Americans ever.
7   marcus   2018 Aug 25, 5:47pm  

lostand confused says
leftwing coup


Is that what the whacko right wing is calling it now ? That is, if it turns out there enough factual evidence of Trump breaking laws to remove him office, making Mike Pence, an extreme conservative, President in his place ?

You guys never cease to amaze.
8   Evan F.   2018 Aug 25, 5:55pm  

Patrick says
But to a person they thought he was doing a good job, pointing to his tax cuts, deregulation, supreme court nominations and stock market highs as evidence.

This is one of the things that amazes me. To most of middle class America, Trump's policies in 3 out of 4 of these things are actually working against them or have no effect on them. His tax cuts disproportionately benefit the more wealthy, deregulation is leading to less corporate oversight and protection of regular workers, and most people have very little to invest in the market.

But hey, maybe Roe V. Wade will get reversed! (Even though Kavanaugh has openly stated it's settled law)
9   lostand confused   2018 Aug 25, 6:03pm  

Tim Aurora says
He openly called Russia to interfere in the election and that is why he won.


he made a joke, but Hilalry actually paid the Russians and colluded witht eh Russians and the FBI used that fake dossier to spy on Trump-your side colluded and this is just a cover up.
Tim Aurora says
So an impeachment of a morally , legally corrupt President is now being considered coup by Alt Right.


What a possible campaign violation after a 30 million dollar witch hunt? justifies a coup?

Tim Aurora says
The Alt right and KKK can go and fuck themselves as they are the one screwing the country.


the KKK were democrats as are the current autocrats. Yeah yourside may think this is ok, but if you succeed-the other side will take up arms and this may lead to generations fo bloodshed-who knows even a splitting of the country.

of course typical-emotional filled liberals are too stupid to see that.


Now if you actually found Russian collusion, I have said it before, I support impeachment-but Hilalry colluded with Russia and more importantly FBI used that collusion to launch secret surveillance on Trump. Wea re in dangerous territory folks with the stupid hateful leftists pushed by the deep state to take over this country or at least cover up their crimes.

This is a coup and w ehave one final stop-the mid terms before the elftists turn us into the former soviet union or Cambodia or Germany.
10   marcus   2018 Aug 25, 6:16pm  

lostand confused says
b-b-b-b-b-but Hilalry actually paid the Russians and colluded witht eh Russians and the FBI used that fake dossier to spy on Trump-your side colluded and this is just a cover up.



You need some b-b-b-b-b stuttering in front of that sentence. OR at least that's the way I'm hearing it. Here, i fixed it.

Funny, truly funny, that made up silliness from the right wing echo chamber about Hillary are still going to be their sorry excuse for Trumps behavior ?
11   marcus   2018 Aug 25, 6:25pm  

lostand confused says
What a possible campaign violation after a 30 million dollar witch hunt?


Which campaign violation are we talking about ? Keep in mind that he didn't even win the popular vote. It was a close election. So campaign violations matter.

Was it the collusion with Russia ?

OR was it using his own money to pay off Hoes from talking about his affairs while his wife was pregnant in one case (one more indication of his character that Brietbart might not have been able to convince the idiocracy to laugh off).

Or is it other general dealings we haven't even learned about yet ?
12   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 25, 6:58pm  

Tim Aurora says
* Calling another country to interfere in the election is not a "JOKE". Next time you can joke with a assassin and ask him to kill your wife. Let us see what the police thinks if your wife is murdered


So you oppose the power of illegal alien foreigners to vote in any US elections, yes?
13   lostand confused   2018 Aug 25, 7:02pm  

Tim Aurora says
Calling another country to interfere in the election is not a "JOKE". Next time you can joke with a assassin and ask him to kill your wife. Let us see what the police thinks if your wife is murdered

yet you totally ignore Hilalry was the one who actually colluded with the Russians to swing the elctions and worse the fBI used her research to spy on trump. Actaully hiring an assassin to murder your wife is the real crime. Obviously if you are Hilalry, police will try and blame that on trump too.

What do you think of Hilalry actually colluding with the Russians to throw our election and the FBI using that to get secret warrants in secret courts? Since you are so mad at trump's joke, I am sure you must be mad at the treasonous Hilalry?
14   MrMagic   2018 Aug 25, 7:08pm  

Evan F. says
His tax cuts disproportionately benefit the more wealthy,


That's because the wealthy pay a disproportional amount of the taxes now. Would you rather have the people who pay ZERO federal tax now, get a larger tax break?

Evan F. says
deregulation is leading to less corporate oversight and protection of regular workers,


Why do workers need the government to oversee them, aren't they adults?

Evan F. says
and most people have very little to invest in the market.


Who's fault is that? Isn't it a personal decision to either save or spend your paychecks? They need "Big Brother" to tell them how to budget?

Evan F. says
To most of middle class America, Trump's policies in 3 out of 4 of these things are actually working against them or have no effect on them.


Here's a hint, stop watching Rachel Maddow, she'll do nothing but pollute your mind.
15   MrMagic   2018 Aug 25, 7:10pm  

Tim Aurora says
* Calling another country to interfere in the election is not a "JOKE".


16   MrMagic   2018 Aug 25, 7:19pm  

Tim Aurora says
is to distract from a Trump issue.


Which issue would that be?

Every week the Liberal MSM comes up with a new scandal, only to be proved fake by the end of the week.

How many more fake scandals do you guys have waiting in the wings?
17   Shaman   2018 Aug 25, 9:38pm  

Tim Aurora says

Just another fear mongering by Alt Right


Huh, I had no idea Chuck Todd was alt right! The more you know, eh?
18   Shaman   2018 Aug 25, 9:40pm  

Tim Aurora says
And the tactics to call "Hillary" every time Trump is accused is to distract from a Trump issue. If you want to accuse Hillary start another thread


He’s just pointing out how Trump critics tend to swallow a camel when it comes to their own people, and gag on a gnat when it comes to Trump.

Sure, making the joke about “can Russia find Hillary’s emails” was irresponsible, and possibly even somewhat negligent. However it wasn’t TREASON or EVIL! It was the Diet Coke of EVIL. Just one calorie.
Not evil enough.
19   Tenpoundbass   2018 Aug 26, 5:07am  

Patrick says
What? There should be no dictatorship by anyone.


Overthrowing Trump because he won is a Dictatorship. Trump would need to put down the rebellion and restore our Democracy, he would OWE it to America.
20   Tenpoundbass   2018 Aug 26, 5:16am  

marcus says
That is, if it turns out there enough factual evidence of Trump breaking laws to remove him office


Well it turns out Mueller wasn't entitled to anything but less than 10% of Trump's emails handpicked by Rudy to give to Mueller.
And Mueller broke protocol, he was supposed to subpoena Trump's associates and a Lawyer was supposed to come represent them all. And if any got on the stand, they were all supposed to answer "I don't remember" "I don't recall" and "I don't have those figures in front of me right now."

If the current swamp was investigated as meticulously has Trump's organization has been. The swamp would be drained by now, and we would have had to build 10 new prisons to house them. Don't think we're not watching, and don't make the mistake to think we're stupid or gentle enough to allow this COUP!

Gird your Loins if you continue this course.
21   bob2356   2018 Aug 26, 6:13am  

lostand confused says
Hilalry actually paid the Russians and colluded witht eh Russians and the FBI used that fake dossier to spy on Trump-your side colluded and this is just a cover up.


Are we still talking about the 12 million dollar Cruz dossier here? Lock him up! Lock him up! Just look at all the republicans in charge of the entire government covering up for hillary. DEEP STATE! DEEP STATE! ROFLOL.
23   Tenpoundbass   2018 Aug 26, 9:04am  

bob2356 says
Are we still talking about the 12 million dollar Cruz dossier here?


Seriously folks, modern politics has become to sophisticated for cut-rate pundit hacks to dabble in.

http://ussanews.com/News1/2018/08/25/the-origin-of-the-fake-trump-dossier/


How the Liberals fantasize it went down

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/steele-timeline/?utm_term=.c6325131fcca

Gee Grand Pa, that aint what happened at all!

Former disgraced FBI Director James Comey told Fox News host Brett Baier back in late-April on Special Report that he did not have any direct knowledge other than reading in news reports that the dossier was funded by Hillary or the DNC and even tried to say the dossier was funded by the Republicans in what can only be considered a deep state PSYOP.


Who am I going to believe Judicial Watch or CNN?
24   Tenpoundbass   2018 Aug 26, 9:09am  

This is the only thing that the FBI had at the time they started Fucking with my duly elected President.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia#.efaO9VZVb

A Buzzfeed Fakenews story. This is why there wont be any Trump perp walks.
26   RC2006   2018 Aug 28, 2:25pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
When will Michelle Obama stop raping the white women?

Maybe when she turns off her IV drip of Viagra that she has running 24/7

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