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17 years ago the longest burning building fire in history started.

By Onvacation following x   2018 Sep 10, 9:15pm 620 views   58 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


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20   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 13, 9:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says

Do you think it was Al Qaeda that flew the planes into the towers?


So, is that a yes or a no?
21   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 13, 10:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
then next question is does everyone agree it was Al Qaeda?


What or who is Al Qaeda?
22   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Sep 13, 10:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Science should solve this issue, not politics, philosophy, or religion.
Why do Liberals hate science?


You misspelled Republicans

Why do they hate Science?
24   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 14, 6:14am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
does everyone agree it was Al Qaeda?

Isn't that why we invaded Iraq?

Anyone that looks at the evidence, over three months of fire in the rubble of the demolished buildings for instance, is willfully ignorant, covering for the perpetrators, or suffering from cognitive dissonance.
25   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 14, 6:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Isn't that why we invaded Iraq?

Anyone that looks at the evidence, over three months of fire in the rubble of the demolished buildings for instance, is willfully ignorant, covering for the perpetrators, or suffering from cognitive dissonance.


Is that a yes or no?
26   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 14, 7:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Is that a yes or no?

You tell me. Do you believe fires can cause steel framed buildings to collapse ?
27   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 14, 7:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
You tell me. Do you believe fires can cause steel framed buildings to collapse ?


So you're unable to answer?

Let me ask again in case you've forgotten:

Do you believe it was Al Qaeda that flew the planes into the towers?
28   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 14, 7:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It would take months and hundreds of workers to rig these 2 buildings to blow up. Yet no one saw a thing? Not a single cable or thermite explosive rig?

What's the purpose of blowing them up anyway? Flying commercial airliners into the WTC was shocking enough and the immediate impacts and fires were responsible for most of the death. America would have been just as outraged if the buildings didn't implode.......especially if Flight 93 managed to hit its target in DC.
29   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 14, 11:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
Not a single cable or thermite explosive rig?

Unburned thermite and iron microspheres (product of thermite combustion) WERE found in the wtc dust.
Can anyone explain why the 3 wtc towers were the only three steel framed towers to ever collapse from fire? Or why the rubble pile burned for more than three months?
30   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 14, 11:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says

What's the purpose of blowing them up anyway?

Shock and awe. It also socialized the demolition costs.
31   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 14, 11:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Can anyone explain why the 3 wtc towers were the only three steel framed towers to ever collapse from fire? Or why the rubble pile burned for more than three months?


Can you tell me whether you think it was Al Qaeda that flew the planes into the towers?

Why won't you answer that simple question? What is your motive for avoiding such a simple question?
32   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 14, 11:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
What is your motive for avoiding such a simple question?

I don't think you're stupid.
I try to avoid trolls and sockpuppets that don't believe what they're saying.
33   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 14, 11:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says

I don't think you're stupid.
I try to avoid trolls and sockpuppets that don't believe what they're saying.


What don't I believe? I'm asking a question.
34   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 14, 11:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Are you saying the concrete floors turned to dust mid air after falling a couple of floors?


They were crushed by impact: a falling avalanche crushing everything below. At the moment of getting crushed, each floor had the support of the structure below, but the force of the impact exceeded the strength of the structure.

Onvacation says
Please link to a steel tower collapsing from fire.


https://www.quora.com/How-many-steel-buildings-have-collapsed-from-fire-besides-WTC
35   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 14, 12:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
They were crushed by impact: a falling avalanche crushing everything below. At the moment of getting crushed, each floor had the support of the structure below, but the force of the impact exceeded the strength of the structure.

If that were true the buildings, all three, would not have come down at near free fall. The impacts would have turned the upper sections kinetic energy into sound and demolishing energy but the collapse never slowed down until nothing was left but a pile of twisted steel and debris that burned for over 3 months and millions of gallons of water before the fire was put out.
curious2 says

Onvacation says
Please link to a steel tower collapsing from fire.


https://www.quora.com/How-many-steel-buildings-have-collapsed-from-fire-besides-WTC

Thanks. I am glad you found that article. It shows that no tower has ever fell at freefall and then burned for more than three months. They even gave lip service to when the bomber flew into the Empire State Building.
Typically the tower fire burns out of control for many hours and then partially collapses. A plane crash and fires alone don't create the pile of debris that burned for more than three months that we called ground zero. Towers burn and partially collapse. They don't completely collapse and then burn.
36   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 14, 12:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
They were crushed by impact: a falling avalanche

I appreciate your opinion. Have you watched David Chandler's video linked above? Are you aware of wtc building 7?

Sometimes I wish I had never seen the evidence. I used to be a patriotic American who believed in "The News". Ignorance is bliss. But if we ignore the truth dystopia will tighten its grip.
37   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 14, 12:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Towers burn and partially collapse. They don't completely collapse and then burn.


When you say "They," you are referring to towers that have not been hit by a Boeing 767 with at least 10 floors above the impact point. When 10 floors of WTC come down like a hammer, they crush with overwhelming force.

Onvacation says
Have you watched David Chandler's video linked above? Are you aware of wtc building 7?


Yes, yes, and I am through wasting time with your questions and your indirect defense of Islamic terrorists by trying to shift the blame for what happened. The evidence is very clear: Muslims decided to strike terror into the enemies of Allah, as per Islam, including Koran 8:12 and 9:5. They hijacked airliners, flew them into buildings, and caused the buildings to collapse.
38   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 15, 7:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Looks like one more ignorant person has left the argument. Ignore really does work.

The facts are that no steel framed tower has EVER collapsed due to fire and the WTC center continued burning for more than three months after it exploded. Like i said before
Onvacation says
Anyone that looks at the evidence, over three months of fire in the rubble of the demolished buildings for instance, is willfully ignorant, covering for the perpetrators, or suffering from cognitive dissonance.
39   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 15, 8:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So, can you then answer the question?

Do you believe Al Qaeda flew the planes into the towers?
40   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 15, 8:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says

Do you believe Al Qaeda


Collapse? Or explosion?
41   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 15, 8:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Al Qaeda or no?
43   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 15, 8:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's pretty funny that you won't answer such a simple question and really illustrates that you are not interested in a real discussion of the facts, but are instead just another conspiracy nut that is not interested in facts or truth because it kills your fun.
44   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 15, 8:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
you won't answer such a simple question

Do you believe fire caused three steel framed buildings to fall after two jets hijacked by al qeada struck them? Do you?
45   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 15, 8:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Do you believe fire caused three steel framed buildings to fall after two jets hijacked by al qeada struck them? Do you?


I'll answer if and when you do. I'm not playing your game unless you reciprocate.
46   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 15, 2:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says

I'll answer if and when you do. I'm not playing your game unless you reciprocate.

Not playing games. Just trying to educate.



Some people are not aware that the building above, WTC7, fell on 9/11.
47   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 15, 3:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Not playing games. Just trying to educate.


If not games, why not answer a simple question? Educate us on whether it was Al Qaeda that flew the planes into the towers.
48   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 8:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Al Qaeda that flew the planes into the towers.
Onvacation says

Do you believe fire caused three steel framed buildings to fall after two jets hijacked by al qeada struck them?
49   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 8:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Posting these facts caused two more patnetters to stick their heads in the sand and ignore me.Onvacation says
Anyone that looks at the evidence, over three months of fire in the rubble of the demolished buildings for instance, is willfully ignorant, covering for the perpetrators, or suffering from cognitive dissonance.
50   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 8:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

And no, I don't know who the perpetrators are. I just know that the official story of 2 airplanes causing 3 towers to fall violates the laws of physics and engineering. Smart people know the truth. Honest, informed, people won't support the bogus official story.
51   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 16, 8:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The funny thing is that you try to imply that there has never been a building that has fallen under the same circumstances.

#1--- There has never been another case of a commercial jet full of fuel purposely crashing into a similarly constructed building. So, there are literally 0 things to compare it to, and it's, by definition, the only time it has happened.

#2-- As other posters have proven, there HAVE been other similarly constructed buildings that have collapsed due to fires.

The other posters gave up on you because you appear to be trolling and not really interested in learning. I will do the same pretty quick.

So, another question for you then--if it wasn't Al Qaeda, then how do you explain the 4 known Al Qaeda members on each hijacked flight, the intercepted communication from 93 indicating the hijackers were clearly Muslim, all the subsequent evidence tying it to Al Qaeda, etc.?
52   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 9:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
there HAVE been other similarly constructed buildings that have collapsed due to fires.

Link please.
53   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 9:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
-if it wasn't Al Qaeda,

Never said it wasn't.
Now, can you, will you, answer the question:
Onvacation says
Do you believe fire caused three steel framed buildings to fall after two jets hijacked by al qeada struck them?


It is the official story.
54   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 16, 9:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says

Link please.


Already provided above by another poster.
55   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 9:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Onvacation says

Link please.


Already provided above by another poster.

Don't see it. Can YOU link to a steel framed building that utterly collapsed after burning for a couple of hours? You can't.
Do you have any idea how a pile of rubble can burn for more than three months? You don't.

The official story was just a reason to keep the military industrial complex in power. What do we have to show for almost two decades of the "war on terrorism "?
57   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 16, 11:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says

17 years ago a fleet of trucks started hauling debris away from ground zero. The fires burned for months.

Only three steel framed towers have ever collapsed from fire. All on 9/11/2001.

Anybody got pictures of any other steel frame buildings that collapsed and then burned?
58   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 16, 2:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Can you post all the other steel framed towers that were impacted by jet planes containing 60 tons of jet fuel traveling at several hundred miles/hour?

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