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Dems Risk Losing Suburban Women with Kavanaugh Attacks

By MegaForce following x   2018 Oct 3, 12:42pm 767 views   23 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Until now, Democrats have been confident that women living in the suburbs would propel the much-vaunted “blue wave” this fall because President Trump remains unpopular with this traditionally Republican constituency. Polling conducted over the summer indicated suburban women had a strong preference for Democratic candidates over their Republican opponents. Several vulnerable Republican-held congressional districts are located in suburban areas.

But Democrats have overplayed their dirty hand, and women might exact their revenge in November. Republican women are outraged at Democrats and their media accomplices for what they’ve done to Brett Kavanaugh and his family. One poll taken right after Kavanaugh’s testimony showed 71 percent of Republican women believed Kavanaugh was telling the truth. In a Morning Consult poll released late Monday, 58 percent of Republican women described Dr. Christine Ford as “opportunistic.” Republican women are the only voters whose support for Kavanaugh’s nomination has increased post-hearing.

1   rdm   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 3, 12:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Two points: First I don't think those numbers are that bad for Dems. One would expect Kavanaugh to have 80-90 % of Republican women. And the second is that many of the suburban women spoken of don't consider themselves Republican anymore, but have become independents so wouldnt even register in that poll. Identification as Republican is declining in that demographic
2   MegaForce   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 3, 1:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Conservative Women Are Angry About Kavanaugh—And They Think Other Voters Are, Too
Local- and state-level leaders across the country say they’re ready to lash out against Democrats in the midterm elections.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/conservative-women-kavanaugh-ford/572023/
3   MegaForce   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 3, 1:13pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
Two points: First I don't think those numbers are that bad for Dems. One would expect Kavanaugh to have 80-90 % of Republican women. And the second is that many of the suburban women spoken of don't consider themselves Republican anymore, but have become independents so wouldnt even register in that poll. Identification as Republican is declining in that demographic


You should stop thinking like this is some sort of national election. In fact, even during election years where the POTUS is up for grabs, it isn't a national election.

Instead it is more accurate to say that we have a simultaneously coordinated series of state and local elections. For the suburbs and Senate, that is bad news for Democrats and here is why:

Out of the 35 Senate seats up for re-election/open election this November, 26 are held by Democrats. And while suburbs can be as blue as their more urban counterparts, many are not...especially in swing states. Just ask Hillary about her 'lock' on suburban voters in Pennsylvania and Ohio in 2016 if you don't believe me. The ten Dem senators in the Red States are screwed. Screwed. So it is quite 'safe' to write off most of those as Dem losses, right there.

Even the folks over in 538 have not spared the KY Jelly when telling their Libtarded audience the 'bad news' regarding that: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/democrats-horrible-2018-senate-map-couldnt-have-come-at-a-better-time/

THEN came along the Kavanaugh hearings.

So yes. It matters a) to talk about GOP women more than Democrat ones in this context and b) suburban women all over can still cause a lot of damage to the Democrats even in Blue States.

ESPECIALLY since the GOP will get a huge chunk of whatever is left of the open-in-the-air males that still vote for Democrats. The Dems Scaring the crap out of them by presenting the very world of Democrat male oppression that the Right has been saying for years is coming will do that, you see. :)
4   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 3, 5:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I think Avenatti turned the tide.
5   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 3, 7:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nothing like a creepy porn lawyer to help people decide which side is the side of the angels.
6   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 3, 9:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Women with sons are all being pushed toward voting Republican since they can easily imagine the same thing happening to their own sons.
7   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 3, 9:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

All three feminazis leading the charge against Kavanagh are childless feminists? Hirono, Gilliband and Kamla.
8   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (35)   2018 Oct 4, 2:04am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AMERICA! is meaningless unless she has a dry drunk whose career goal is to provide a get out of jail card for Putin's stooges and money launderers on the Supreme Court.
9   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 4, 4:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MockingbirdKiller says
One poll taken right after Kavanaugh’s testimony showed 71 percent of Republican women believed Kavanaugh was telling the truth.


Only 71% of Republican women believe Kavanaugh was telling the truth? Looks like someone is losing suburban women but not the D's. The number should be 90% plus.

MockingbirdKiller says
Republican women are the only voters whose support for Kavanaugh’s nomination has increased post-hearing.


Interesting they skipped saying much the support has increased. I'm betting it is negligible.
10   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Oct 4, 4:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
AMERICA! is meaningless unless she has a dry drunk whose career goal is to provide a get out of jail card for Putin's stooges and money launderers on the Supreme Court.


Why do you hate FREEDOM!?

Hillary Clinton blargh blouach uumpff!
11   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 5:28am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Women with sons are all being pushed toward voting Republican since they can easily imagine the same thing happening to their own sons.


I don't know. Uneducated women know the game and have been to parties and maybe even slept with dudes. Educated women obviously went to college and got the "college" experience. Are women that dense that this changed something? Obviously there are feminist, but come on, I'm not certain this moves the needle one way or another.

Fact is we're all still animals. Women want to have sex with men sometimes just as much as the reverse. It's natural. I'll probably get my head chewed off by some here for this comment but who care. What is the point of a party in most cases? At that age? When BOTH sexes are MASSIVELY horny? If she didn't want unwanted advances, at her made up party, she shouldn't have gone to a party. Plain and simple.

Decisions have consequences. If I had a daughter, I'd let her know that going to a party, you understand the boys are going to want to have sex with you or at least try to get to third base. Hopefully not forcefully, BUT understand there are d-bags out there and it MIGHT happen. So know what you're getting into. And drink beer!
12   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Oct 4, 5:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Patrick says
Women with sons are all being pushed toward voting Republican since they can easily imagine the same thing happening to their own sons.


I don't know. Uneducated women know the game and have been to parties and maybe even slept with dudes. Educated women obviously went to college and got the "college" experience. Are women that dense that this changed something? Obviously there are feminist, but come on, I'm not certain this moves the needle one way or another.

Fact is we're all still animals. Women want to have sex with men sometimes just as much as the reverse. It's natural. I'll probably get my head chewed off by some here for this comment but who care. What is the point of a party in most cases? At that age? When BOTH sexes are MASSIVELY horny? If she didn't want unwanted advances, at her made up party, she shouldn't have gone to a party. Plain and simple.
...


You have a sister in law who used the same tactics to falsely accuse some poor guy of rape though
13   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 7:13am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
You have a sister in law who used the same tactics to falsely accuse some poor guy of rape though


Don't want to get into details, but it was bad. No false accusations on this one. I know someone (not anymore because of this) that I trusted at the time, but was in the room. It happened 100%.

Classic story of a party at a popular kids house and parents ended up finding out and helped their kids friend get away with it (literally burning mattress, sheets, etc). No one would step forward, no physical evidence (she passed out, didn't remember, and didn't find out until a week later from the school rumor mill, so no rape kit) and SIL family didn't have the cash to take it to court on a he said, she's passed out story with no cooperating witness.

Different animal my friend then Ford/Kavanaugh in my case. I'd have to wait another 15 years for my SIL to come out about it for it to be somewhat similar. They went to an attorney a week or two after the event. Ford did no such thing, so even if it happened there's some consent implied by not going to some authority figure if it was "assault." You'd tell your parents, friends, etc. She told no one. It wasn't assault, it wasn't rape and almost certainly she's lying or remember a different "party"

As I've said before, all the judges are biased and political. You can't even set betting odds, they're that predictable. Almost every decision they make over the next generation, will have little to no effect on your or I. I like Kavanaugh because I like beer. He does too. If he doesn't get the job, fuck, I could give two shits. I just like beer. And pot ;)
14   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Oct 4, 7:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Almost every decision they make over the next generation, will have little to no effect on your or I.

WTF are you talking about? You don’t think Citizens United has had any effect on us? Do you even know what the Supreme Court is, or does?
15   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 8:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Almost every decision they make over the next generation, will have little to no effect on your or I.

WTF are you talking about? You don’t think Citizens United has had any effect on us? Do you even know what the Supreme Court is, or does?


What has it (CU) done to you, personally?

And yes I do.
16   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 8:11am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
What has it (CU) done to you, personally?


Honestly, knowing your love of pot stocks (thanks for the tip again), CU probably will be beneficial for you. Once those companies start lobbying and paying to get their choice politicians in office, well, you're one step closer to federal legalization.

It's all a game man. That's why I don't mind Trump so much. He's played the game and knows he can buy a D or an R like it's a vowel in Wheel of Fortune.

Yes there are MAJOR issues the supreme court decides on, but many/most really won't impact 80% of people. This isn't 1843 where a Supreme Court decision could literally change the landscape of America.
17   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 8:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Decisions have consequences. If I had a daughter, I'd let her know that going to a party, you understand the boys are going to want to have sex with you or at least try to get to third base
Our society used to understand things like that. That's why we had such obsolete things as chaperones, single sex dorms, college curfews to curtail the inevitable as much as possible. In my mother's memory book she kept during the two years she attended TWU in Ft. Worth from 1920-1922, one of her friend's made this coy little note: "Now Cora dear, don't disperse, it will only make things worse". And she didn't. It was the first wave of the Baby Boomers which threw all this accumulated wisdom away in the late 60's and early 1970's during the cultural/sexual revolutions. The principle of in loco parentis had been standard procedure to generations on college campuses. The college became the stand-in for your parents once you arrived on campus and enforced all kinds of rules of behavior to keep you on the straight and narrow. And, believe it or not, the college had the right to reveal your grades to your parents. It's no surprise that in ensuing legal battles the years 1967 and 1968 begin showing up as those were some of the most violent years on college campuses ever. Needless to say the end result was:

"By the early 1970s, in loco parentis at universities was a relic of
the past (Kaplin & Lee, 2007, p. 91). In addition to court cases, the 26th
Amendment to the U.S. Constitution accelerated the demise of in loco
parentis at colleges (U.S. Const. amend. XXVI). The 26th Amendment,
ratified in 1971, lowered the minimum voting age from 21 (in most states)
to 18. Since most college students would reach this lower age of majority
while still enrolled, colleges were hard pressed to justify its temporary
parent status over these young adults. The constitutional rights of students
at public universities, therefore, seemed well settled by this time. In the
subsequent decades, courts struggled with the new relationship between
university and students as it defined the contours of legal liability of
universities when students were injured. These cases moved away from
constitutional law; instead, they were based in tort law."

So welcome to the modern world!
18   MegaForce   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 11:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Interesting they skipped saying much the support has increased. I'm betting it is negligible.


How can they 'skip' news that happens in the future after this poll was conducted and this article was written?

Oh yes, Troll Bot. You didn't think about that, did you? Because you're a bot.
19   exfatguy   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 11:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No mother would want her son unjustly accused of something like this.

And, sorry to say, all potential motivations of an accuser must be taken into consideration in the absence of any physical evidence.
20   MegaForce   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 11:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

exfatguy says
in the absence of any physical evidence.


...or a video.

I once was almost seated on a jury for a criminal trial. They told us in the beginning that there was video footage of the guy raping the victim right up against the ATM where the video cam was mounted on. Accused was screwed & tattooed. Never finished the enpanalment as the public defender cut a plea right then and there.
21   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 4, 11:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Obligatory that every unpleasant reality has its denial.

This thread is proof the women's vote is going GOP

riiiiiight

LOL
22   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 12:58pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
You don’t think Citizens United has had any effect on us


Taking massive advantage of it, and outspending her opponent 2:1 didn’t help Hillary beat Trump. Turns out that voters can’t be bought quite that blatantly after all.
23   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 1:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Aphroman says
You don’t think Citizens United has had any effect on us


Taking massive advantage of it, and outspending her opponent 2:1 didn’t help Hillary beat Trump. Turns out that voters can’t be bought quite that blatantly after all.


This is a very valid point. I actually thought H-dog spent more than 2:1, but I could be wrong.

On lower level races, it does have an impact on an election. I'm not sure it has much overall impact on the overall mix/votes on things though. As with all politicians, the goal is to get reelected. Making a bad/wrong vote on something can wipe out that chance regardless of how much money you can get.




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