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To Fat, Effeminate, GropenFuhrer Cultists: Trump is a serial loser who steals wealth from taxes

By jazz_music following x   2018 Oct 4, 12:52pm 442 views   39 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Here is something frothing rightards all howl doesn't matter because NY Times are commies. NY Times is the nations most left wing magazine that would never say a word against billionaire pricks in NY. Nonetheless, here's

11 Takeaways From The Times’s Investigation Into Trump’s Wealth

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-wealth-fred-trump.html

Donald J. Trump built a business empire and won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help. “I built what I built myself,” the president has repeatedly said.

But an investigation by The New York Times has revealed that Donald Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire. What’s more, much of this money came to Mr. Trump through dubious tax schemes he participated in during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, The Times found.

In all, the president’s parents transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate on gifts and inheritances that was in place at the time. Helped by a variety of tax dodges, the Trumps paid $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax returns show.

The president declined requests over several weeks to comment for this article.

A lawyer for Mr. Trump, Charles J. Harder, provided a written statement. “There was no fraud or tax evasion by anyone. The facts upon which The Times bases its false allegations are extremely inaccurate,” he said. “President Trump had virtually no involvement whatsoever with these matters,” he continued, saying the president had delegated those tasks to relatives and tax professionals. “The affairs were handled by other Trump family members who were not experts themselves and therefore relied entirely upon the aforementioned licensed professionals to ensure full compliance with the law.”

In a statement on behalf of the Trump family, the president’s brother, Robert Trump, said, “All appropriate gift and estate tax returns were filed, and the required taxes were paid.”

Since Donald Trump first refused to release his income tax returns, his campaign and then his presidency have been suffused with questions about the extent and sources of his wealth, questions that have only intensified with the Russia investigation. The Times’s new reporting reveals little about his recent business dealings. But the investigation — based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, and at more than 13,000 words one of the longest investigative articles ever published in The Times — offers the first comprehensive examination of the inherited fortune and tax dodges that guaranteed Mr. Trump a gilded life.

Here are some key takeaways.

The Trumps’ tax maneuvers show a pattern of deception, tax experts say

The line between legal tax avoidance and illegal tax evasion is often murky, and there is no shortage of clever tax-avoidance tricks that have been blessed by either the courts or the Internal Revenue Service itself; the wealthiest Americans rarely pay anything close to full freight. The Trumps’ tax maneuvers met with little resistance from the I.R.S., The Times found.

But tax experts briefed on The Times’s findings said the Trumps appeared to have done more than exploit legal loopholes. They said the conduct described here represented a pattern of deception and obfuscation that repeatedly prevented the I.R.S. from taxing large transfers of wealth to Fred Trump’s children.

Donald Trump began reaping wealth from his father’s real estate empire as a toddler

In Donald Trump’s version of how he got rich, he was the master dealmaker who broke free from his father’s “tiny” Brooklyn and Queens real estate operation and built a $10 billion empire that would slap the Trump name on hotels, high-rises, casinos and golf courses the world over.

But The Times’s investigation makes clear that in every era of Mr. Trump’s life, his finances were deeply entwined with, and dependent on, his father’s wealth. By age 3, he was earning $200,000 a year in today’s dollars from his father’s empire. He was a millionaire by age 8. In his 40s and 50s, he was receiving more than $5 million a year.

There was a clear pattern to this largess: When his son began expensive new projects, Fred Trump increased his help. In the late 1970s, when Donald Trump crossed the river into the glittering precincts of Manhattan — converting the old Commodore Hotel near Grand Central Terminal into a Grand Hyatt — his father opened a spigot of loans. When he made his first forays into Atlantic City casinos a few years later, his father devised a plan to sharply increase the flow of aid.

That ‘small loan’ of $1 million was actually at least $60.7 million — much of it never repaid

In Mr. Trump’s books and TV shows and on the campaign trail, a central trope of his self-mythology has been that, as he began building his own empire, the only financial help he got from his father was a $1 million loan. Not only that: “I had to pay him back with interest.”

In fact, The Times found, Fred Trump lent his son at least $60.7 million, or $140 million in today’s dollars. Much of it was never repaid, records show.

Fred Trump wove a safety net that rescued his son from one bad bet after another

As the 1980s ended, Donald Trump’s big bets began to go bust — Trump Shuttle, the Plaza Hotel, the Atlantic City casinos. But as he careened from one financial disaster to another, family partnerships and companies dramatically increased their payouts.

Between 1989 and 1992, four of the entities that Fred Trump created paid his son today’s equivalent of $8.3 million. And when Donald Trump pleaded with bankers for an emergency line of credit, he used as collateral the stake his father had given him in a group of apartment buildings.

Tax records also reveal that at the peak of Mr. Trump’s financial distress, in 1990, his father extracted an extraordinary sum — nearly $50 million — from his empire. While The Times could find no evidence that Fred Trump made any significant debt payments, charitable donations or personal expenditures, there are indications that he wanted plenty of cash on hand to bail out his son if need be.

That was what happened at Trump’s Castle casino, where an $18.4 million bond payment was due in December 1990. Fred Trump dispatched a trusted bookkeeper to Atlantic City with checks to buy $3.5 million in casino chips without placing a bet. With this ruse — an illegal loan under New Jersey gaming laws, resulting in a $65,000 civil penalty — Donald Trump narrowly avoided defaulting on his bonds.

The Trumps turned an $11 million loan debt into a legally questionable tax write-off

By 1987, Donald Trump’s loan debt to his father had grown to at least $11 million. Had Fred Trump simply forgiven the debt, his son would have owed millions in income taxes. They found another solution — one that appears to constitute both an unreported multimillion-dollar gift and an illegal tax write-off.

That December, records show, Fred Trump spent $15.5 million to buy a 7.5 percent stake in Trump Palace, his son’s condo tower rising on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. Four years later, tax returns and financial statements show, Fred Trump sold that stake for just $10,000. The buyer, other documents indicate, was his son.

According to tax experts, with Trump Palace condos selling briskly, selling shares worth $15.5 million to your son for a mere sliver of that would constitute a multimillion-dollar gift under I.R.S. rules. But Fred Trump’s tax returns show no such gift to Donald Trump. What they do reveal is that he used the transaction to declare an enormous tax write-off. That appears to violate federal tax law that prohibits deducting any loss from the sale or exchange of property between family members.

In all, Fred Trump dodged roughly $8 million in gift taxes and $5 million in income taxes on the transaction.

Father and son set out to create the myth of a self-made billionaire

All told, The Times documented 295 distinct streams of revenue Fred Trump created over five decades to channel wealth to his son.

But the partnership between Donald Trump and his father was about more than the pursuit, and the preservation, of riches. They were also confederates in a more ambitious project: creating the myth of Donald J. Trump, Self-Made Billionaire. If Fred Trump was the silent partner, helping finance the accouterments of wealth, it was Donald Trump who spun them into a seductive narrative.

Emblematic of this dynamic is Trump Tower, the talisman of privilege that established Donald Trump as a player in New York. Fred Trump’s money helped build it. His son recognized and exploited its iconic power as the primary stage for both “The Apprentice” and his presidential campaign.

Donald Trump tried to change his ailing father’s will, setting off a family reckoning

In December 1990, Donald Trump sent his father a document that left him both angered and alarmed. It was a codicil seeking to make a variety of changes to Fred Trump’s will. Among them: strengthening provisions that made Donald Trump sole executor of his estate. But amid Mr. Trump’s financial shambles — it was the month of the $3.5 million Trump’s Castle rescue — Fred Trump feared that the document potentially put his life’s work at risk, that his son might use the empire as collateral to save his own failing businesses, according to depositions given years later during a family dispute.

Fred Trump rebuffed the maneuver, refusing to sign the codicil. But the episode prompted a family reckoning: Fred Trump was aging and ailing. Without speedy intervention, he could die leaving a vast estate — not just his real estate empire, but also tens of millions of dollars in cash — vulnerable to the 55 percent inheritance tax.

So with Donald Trump playing a central role, the family formulated a plan that included unorthodox tax strategies that experts told The Times were legally dubious and, in some cases, appeared to be fraudulent.

The Trumps created a company that siphoned cash from the empire

The first major component was creating a company called All County Building Supply & Maintenance. On paper, All County was Fred Trump’s purchasing agent, buying everything from boilers to cleaning supplies. But All County was, in fact, a company only on paper, records and interviews show — a vehicle to siphon cash from Fred Trump’s empire by simply marking up purchases already made by his employees. Those millions in markups, effectively untaxed gifts, then flowed to All County’s owners — Donald Trump, his siblings and a cousin.

Lee-Ford Tritt, a leading expert in gift and estate tax law at the University of Florida, said the Trumps’ use of All County was “highly suspicious” and could constitute criminal tax fraud. “It certainly looks like a disguised gift,” he said.

In President Trump’s version of how he got rich, he was the master dealmaker who parlayed a $1 million loan from his father into a $10 billion empire.Marilynn K. Yee/The New York Times
All County also had an insidious downside for Fred Trump’s tenants. He used the padded invoices to justify higher rent increases in rent-regulated buildings, records show.

Mr. Harder, the president’s lawyer, disputed The Times’s reporting: “Should The Times state or imply that President Trump participated in fraud, tax evasion or any other crime, it will be exposing itself to substantial liability and damages for defamation.”

The Trump parents dodged hundreds of millions in gift taxes by grossly undervaluing the assets they would pass on

With the cash flowing out of Fred Trump’s empire, the Trumps began transferring ownership of the lion’s share of the empire itself to Donald Trump and his siblings. The vehicle they created to do that was a special kind of trust called a grantor-retained annuity trust, or GRAT.

The purpose of a GRAT is to pass wealth across generations without paying the 55 percent estate tax. The Trump parents did have to pay gift taxes based on one crucial number: the market value of Fred Trump’s empire. But The Times found evidence that they dodged hundreds of millions of dollars in gift taxes by submitting tax returns that grossly undervalued the assets placed in two GRATs, one for each parent.

Fred Trump’s 1995 gift tax return claimed that the 25 apartment complexes and other properties in the trusts were worth just $41.4 million. The implausibility of this claim would be made plain in 2004, when banks valued that same real estate at nearly $900 million.

Listen to ‘The Daily’: How Trump Really Got Rich

We don’t have President Trump’s tax returns. But we have his father’s.
“They play around with valuations in extreme ways,” said Mr. Tritt, the tax law expert, who was briefed on The Times’s findings. “There are dramatic fluctuations depending on their purpose.”

Mr. Harder, the president’s lawyer, said: “All estate matters were handled by licensed attorneys, licensed C.P.A.’s and licensed real estate appraisers who followed all laws and rules strictly.”

After Fred Trump’s death, his empire’s most valuable asset was an I.O.U. from Donald Trump

When Fred Trump died in June 1999 at the age of 93, the vast bulk of his empire was nowhere to be found in his estate — testament to the success of the tax strategies devised by the Trumps in the early 1990s. The single largest item included in his estate tax return was a $10.3 million I.O.U. from Donald Trump, money his son appears to have borrowed the year before he died. As for the remnants of empire left in Fred Trump’s estate, the tax return cited appraisals that once again grossly understated their market values.

As their father’s executors, Donald, Maryanne and Robert Trump were legally responsible for the accuracy of his estate tax return. They were obligated not only to give the I.R.S. a complete accounting of the value of his estate’s assets, but also to disclose all the taxable gifts he had made during his lifetime. If they knew anything was wrong and failed to reveal it, tax experts said, they could be in violation of tax law.

Mr. Harder, the president’s lawyer, defended the tax returns filed by the Trumps. “The returns and tax positions that The Times now attacks were examined in real time by the relevant taxing authorities,” he said. “These matters have now been closed for more than a decade.”

Donald Trump got a windfall when the empire was sold. But he may have left money on the table.

In 2003, once again in financial trouble, Donald Trump began engineering the sale of the empire Fred Trump had hoped would never leave the family. The sale, completed in 2004, brought him his biggest payday ever from his father: His cut was $177.3 million, or $236.2 million in today’s dollars. But as it turned out, banks at the time valued the empire at hundreds of millions more than the sale price. Donald Trump, master dealmaker, had sold low.


1   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2018 Oct 4, 1:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The jiggering of valuations on year booked was obvious, much less and long before the valuation resolved to market level at the later sale.

They might well have been flagged.

If not, there should be an IG's office interrogation of processing conventions of high-stakes returns.
2   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 4, 1:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Why do you hate success?
3   Evan F.   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 1:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
Why do you hate success?

Lol this is what success looks like?
4   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2018 Oct 4, 1:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Anyone with his talents would be whispering offers from bushes in truck stops.

Trump managed to parlay his assets to a career of blowing oligarchs.

No wonder he's president.
5   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 5:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dodging taxes is a badge of honor for republicans.

The guy is soon going to renegotiate the US national debt as he would for a failed gold course.
6   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 5, 9:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is the biggest tax evasion scandal the US presidency has ever seen and 18 hours later no one is talking about it.

WTF ... media is giving Trump a major pass on this, and so is FBI

Major privilege at work here!

Huckabee Sanders didn't even have to come out and lie about it.
7   MbS   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 5, 10:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
This is the biggest tax evasion scandal the US presidency has ever seen and 18 hours later no one is talking about it.

WTF ... media is giving Trump a major pass on this


Quick, call NPR!
8   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 5, 10:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Its almost as if assertions that the left creates a continual stream of hysterics are dead on correct.
9   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 6, 6:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's almost as if Trump creates a stream of continuous hysterics, and these facts that should be a reputation killer for Trump are practically ignored by everyone, becasue both the media and the people are shock resistant and learned long ago, that somehow nothing affects this guy. He was right when he said he could get away with murdering someone on fifth avenue.


It's hard to pinpoint exactly when the transition occurred, but the media doesn't play the role it once did. We already are "idiocracy," not a democracy. And totally played by the plutocracy.
10   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 6, 9:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
To Fat, Effeminate, GropenFuhrer Cultists: Trump is a serial loser who steals wealth from taxes

Wish I had his talents.

jazz_music says
a central trope of his self-mythology has been that, as he began building his own empire, the only financial help he got from his father was a $1 million loan. Not only that: “I had to pay him back with interest.”

No one cares.

jazz_music says
The Times documented 295 distinct streams of revenue Fred Trump created over five decades to channel wealth to his son.

So?

jazz_music says
He used the padded invoices to justify higher rent increases in rent-regulated buildings

Big deal. So would everyone else.

Listen to ‘The Daily’: How Trump Really Got Rich
If I listen, can I be rich too?
11   bob2356   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 6, 1:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Listen to ‘The Daily’: How Trump Really Got Rich
If I listen, can I be rich too?


Sure it's really easy. Be born rich. Believe you made it yourself.
12   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 6, 1:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

bob2356 says
Strategist says
Listen to ‘The Daily’: How Trump Really Got Rich
If I listen, can I be rich too?


Sure it's really easy. Be born rich. Believe you made it yourself.


You just ruined my weekend. You could have waited until Monday morning.
13   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 1:37pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Thanks for the SCOTUS Democrats.
14   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 6, 6:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Thanks for the SCOTUS Democrats.

There are threads where this comment would not be off topic.
15   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 6, 8:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Whereas as Blasey-Ford was born poor and went to an all-girls prep school, also in Maryland.
16   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 8:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
There are threads where this comment would not be off topic.


Thought I'd just thank the people who helped move this along!

you can go back to your Trump bashing.
17   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 6, 8:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Thought I'd just thank the people who helped move this along!

LOL as if you somehow won something

Goran_K says
go back to your Trump bashing

Trump is self-bashing, I mainly pick on his cult following
18   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 9:31pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
LOL as if you somehow won something


Anyone who believes in liberty won a lot. I know that excludes most Democrats but for actual Americans, it was a huge victory.

jazz_music says
Trump is self-bashing, I mainly pick on his cult following


and I hope you do. It's helped immensely. Thank you!
19   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 9:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Goran_K says
Thought I'd just thank the people who helped move this along!

LOL as if you somehow won something


We did! another opportunity to watch the bitterness eat at the insides of bob2356 says
Strategist says
Listen to ‘The Daily’: How Trump Really Got Rich
If I listen, can I be rich too?


Sure it's really easy. Be born rich. Believe you made it yourself.


Or become a politician and turn that 100k salary into about 10 mil in 4 years. All "legal and above board".
20   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 10:11pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
Or become a politician and turn that 100k salary into about 10 mil in 4 years. All "legal and above board".


This is thr crux of it. Sure Trump inherited a shitload from his dad, and probably took advantage of every tax law and loophole possible. But you won't see any politicians going after this especially CA democrats that have became filthy rich not from inheritance but from fucking over taxpayers and using thier political power to generate wealth. They are far more scared about people finding out how they became so wealthy than Trump growing his inheritance.
21   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 7, 12:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Anyone who can become the President of the USA without Daddy's help has already proven himself.
Trump bashers, you can knock his financial success all you want, but becoming the most powerful man on the planet supersedes all other achievements.
23   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 7, 6:45am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Plenty of trust fund babies crash, become druggies etc etc. heck

Dems as usual are deranged. Trump got some money from daddy, built a massive empire, had the ebst women in the world, enjoyed life and now wants to do something for the country as he enters his golden years-because he got tired of just making billions-dems say that si evil.

Hilalry rides the coat tails of Bill, trashes his rape accusers , puts up with everything and then wants to be a president because Bill was a President-next best thing to sliced bread.

Liberals and logic-LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
24   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 7, 7:28am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The entire Democrat platform is “I’m jealous and hate you cause I don’t have what you have.”

Seriously who cares if someone who is rich gives money to their kids? You mad because it wasn’t you?
25   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 7, 7:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
Plenty of trust fund babies crash, become druggies etc etc. heck

Dems as usual are deranged. Trump got some money from daddy, built a massive empire, had the ebst women in the world, enjoyed life and now wants to do something for the country as he enters his golden years-because he got tired of just making billions-dems say that si evil.


Perfectly true. Thanks for reminding the dems.
26   rdm   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 7, 11:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
now wants to do something for the country as he enters his golden years-because he got tired of just making billions


Seriously you actually believe this? I doubt even Trump could say that with a straight face. Though I understand that evangelicals believe he was sent from God, not so different.
Men like Trump never tire of making or in his case faking money.
27   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 7, 1:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
You mad because it wasn’t you?

No, mad at it because he never gets over lying about being a self made man.

There's this thing about lying where it insults the listener.

The funny damn thing is that certain people are not mad at all about it.
28   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 7, 1:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
Though I understand that evangelicals believe he was sent from God


Evangelicals believe everything was sent by God. Trump isnt special in this worldview. It is however, special how the left loves to paint all trump supporters as evangelicals, deplorables, white-males, breitbart readers, etc... Anytime you are thinking "all Trump supporters" it is you who is wrong. Guaranteed.
29   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 7, 1:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Goran_K says
You mad because it wasn’t you?

No, mad at it because he never gets over lying about being a self made man.

There's this thing about lying where it insults the listener.

The funny damn thing is that certain people are not mad at all about it.


He’s never said he was “self made”, he even talks about his dads successful career as a developer and the lessons he learned from him.

So you’re basically mad at something you made up in your head, in effect, making yourself mad.
30   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 7, 1:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
So you’re basically mad at something you made up in your head, in effect, making yourself mad.


You just summarized the Dem platform.
31   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 7, 2:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says

Evangelicals believe everything was sent by God.


Including hurricanes to punish us for our tolerance to gays. Fucking morons.
32   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 8, 10:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
you’re basically mad at something you made up in your head, in effect, making yourself mad.

Disingenuous and ignorant of so many facts, many of which are referenced in the OP, for example:

Trump’s books and TV shows and on the campaign trail, a central trope of his self-mythology has been that, as he began building his own empire, the only financial help he got from his father was a $1 million loan. Not only that: “I had to pay him back with interest.”

In fact, The Times found, Fred Trump lent his son at least $60.7 million, or $140 million in today’s dollars. Much of it was never repaid, records show.

Fred Trump wove a safety net that rescued his son from one bad bet after another


All is required is to participate in the thread instead of trolling it.
33   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 8, 10:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Including hurricanes to punish us for not buying into the Climate Change religion. Fucking morons.


FFY.
34   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 8, 12:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
CBOEtrader says

Evangelicals believe everything was sent by God.


Including hurricanes to punish us for our tolerance to gays. Fucking morons.


Christians are just like Muslin extremists, only dumber and more dangerous to the USA
35   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2018 Oct 8, 12:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The great part about killing ragheads with lamp cord is that you can save the same lamp cord and use it to take out the papists.
36   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 8, 12:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Strategist says
CBOEtrader says

Evangelicals believe everything was sent by God.


Including hurricanes to punish us for our tolerance to gays. Fucking morons.


Christians are just like Muslin extremists, only dumber and more dangerous to the USA


I don't think Christian extremists are as dangerous as Muslim extremists. Christian extremists live in secular democracies where they are restricted by law, while Muslim extremists live in Islamic countries where the law is Islam.
Nevertheless, anyone who thinks hurricanes are a punishment from God, because of our tolerance for gays can only be classified as extremely stupid. Muslims who believe in similar nonsense tend to be both stupid and dangerous.
37   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2018 Oct 8, 4:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Wait until president Pence is hanging papists, baptists and fat lesbians from street lamps, exactly as the Founding Fathers demanded.
38   LastMan   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 8, 5:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
a central trope of his self-mythology has been that, as he began building his own empire, the only financial help he got from his father was a $1 million loan. Not only that: “I had to pay him back with interest.”

No one cares.


DJT cares.

lostand confused says
Plenty of trust fund babies crash, become druggies etc etc. heck


It seems like you just admitted that Trump is a trust fund baby. If so, be prepared to be excommunicated.
39   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 8, 5:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
Plenty of trust fund babies crash, become druggies etc etc. heck


It's so true. Just look at celebrities and lottery winners. Unless you are motivated enough to achieve something, too much money will ruin your life and that of your descendants.
That is why I don't want to win mega jackpot lotteries.
"The love of money, is the root of all evil" Some things the Bible says is so true.




The Housing Trap
You're being set up to spend your life paying off a debt you don't need to take on, for a house that costs far more than it should. The conspirators are all around you, smiling to lure you in, carefully choosing their words and watching your reactions as they push your buttons, anxiously waiting for the moment when you sign the papers that will trap you and guarantee their payoff. Don't be just another victim of the housing market. Use this book to defend your freedom and defeat their schemes. You can win the game, but first you have to learn how to play it.
115 pages, $12.50

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