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The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate U.S. Companies

By Heraclitusstudent following x   2018 Oct 4, 4:14pm 317 views   19 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


China implants spying chips on Amazon, Apple servers.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Humm... bring computer companies back to the US?

1   MegaForce   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 4:15pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This gives Trump the perfect excuse to cut off all trade on national security grounds. :)
2   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 4:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Excuse so perfect in fact that it is almost hard to believe.

Apple didn't like it: "On this we can be very clear: Apple has never found malicious chips, “hardware manipulations” or vulnerabilities purposely planted in any server. Apple never had any contact with the FBI or any other agency about such an incident. We are not aware of any investigation by the FBI, nor are our contacts in law enforcement.".
3   Rin   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 4, 4:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is my only hope that engineering jobs will come back to America.
4   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 4:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I have long wondered about the impossibly cheap add-on cards on ebay. What is in those cards? Apple might not have found a problem, but there might be many problems in the PC / Linux world of people taking apart their machines and adding cheap generic/anonymous cards.
6   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 4:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You would think US manufacturers that design the computers, and have them assembled in China, would verify that everything is exactly as per their specs.
7   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 4:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
You would think US manufacturers that design the computers, and have them assembled in China, would verify that everything is exactly as per their specs.


You would only think that if you had never spent much time working inside a large company. One hand doesn't usually know what the others are doing, and things don't always go the way one might hope.
8   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 4:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

...and then eyes are fixed on the cash coming in.
curious2 says
One hand doesn't usually know what the others are doing, and things don't always go the way one might hope.
9   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2018 Oct 4, 4:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Anyone have the list of Republicans who are buying, bought & own COMMUNIST China imports in the last 40 years.
At least part of the profit stayed with outsourcing Republican businesses & their Republican stockholders.
The profits from Republican Communist co-conspirators that stayed in China did not go into hacking/spying technology.
Of course Democrats never buy any imports!

Fuck Republicans!
Fuck Democrats!
And Fuck the human race for destroying our home & habitat.
These Fuckings need to be committed with a 12 inch barbwire dildo.

If praying would bring on history's greatest Civil War,in America & the World,I'd be on my knees now.

curious2 says
One hand doesn't usually know what the others are doing,


While my left hand is pointing with it's middle finger, my right hand is writing,Fuck everybody & their tender sensibilities,political & religious theologies.

I'm making a movie-"Old Man with a keyboard,Who's not afraid of Free Speech."
10   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 9:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
verify that everything is exactly as per their specs.


They had more than one design. One was embedded (hidden) between the layers of the board. You don't find that unless you are expressly looking for it. I'm all for banning not just placing tariffs on 100% of China derived tech goods. Not just that but they have had all sorts of sweet technology transfer deals with the NSF and others for decades. If it hasn't already all of that shit needs to be ended immediately. We are at war with them whether we know it or like it or not.
11   Blue   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 4, 11:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
Apple didn't like it

Well, if they admit, it will hurt their imports.
12   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 5, 7:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
You would think US manufacturers that design the computers, and have them assembled in China, would verify that everything is exactly as per their specs.


I wouldn't think that because it would be an additional cost. Only people who believe they are protected by corps or govt. agencies would believe that.
13   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 5, 7:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
This is my only hope that engineering jobs will come back to America.


And that those jobs are filled by chindians.
14   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 5, 7:29am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
China implants spying chips on Amazon, Apple servers.


Just thinking outside the box (I think it's called being a conspiracy theorist). If there really were chips implanted, why is it assumed to be for the benefit of the chinese? Is it because only the Chinese and Russians spy on people? And that US companies never spy on the competition. Or that the NSA would never stoop that low?
15   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 5, 7:55am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Blue says
Heraclitusstudent says
Apple didn't like it

Well, if they admit, it will hurt their imports.


No shit! And it should! There’s absolutely no reason they couldn’t manufacture Apple products in the USA. The only reason is that they wanted to make 500% profit per sale instead of only %400 profit by hiring Americans.

Almost all mattresses are still manufactured in the USA, and mostly locally to the area of distribution. This is because they’re expensive to ship. They’re still ridiculously cheap to make even paying Americans decent wages. I talked with a shop foreman in a mattress factory for Certa. He says materials are around $78 per mattress, and labor adds another $50. They retail for close to $1000 so you know there’s plenty of profit built in! The labor costs alone weren’t enough to offset the crippling costs of shipping mattresses from china. So they get made here.
16   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 5, 10:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No shit! And it should! There’s absolutely no reason they couldn’t manufacture Apple products in the USA. The only reason is that they wanted to make 500% profit per sale instead of only %400 profit by hiring Americans.

Not only that, but all suppliers and related support that would set up operations around a iPhone plant.
17   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 5, 10:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is why you should only store data on servers you build.
18   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 5, 10:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Motherboards from Taiwan are ok.
19   epitaph   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 12:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

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