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28   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 7:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
You’re amazed at the ability of a Republican President to appointment a GOPe SCOTUS judge?

Isn’t that his job?

How low are your expectations?


- Tax reform (80% of households keep more money)
- NAFTA reform (potentially over $300 billion coming back to US markets from Canada/mexico)
- Stopping Chinese theft of US IP and Manufacturing jobs
- Good bye ObamaCare
- Good bye PARIS (theft) agreement
- Record stock market gains
-Recognized Jerusalem as capital of Israel
- First US president to negotiate peace with North Korea
- 4.2% GDP (highest quarter in the past decade)
- TWO SCOTUS nominations (let's be honest, #3 is possibly coming)

He's not even two years in. He's making Obama, Bush, and Clinton look like real assholes.
29   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 7:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Seems somebody is too busy watching CNN and fretting about the little girls armed with sticks in distraction, to be able to keep up with what our government is doing.


In April, the DEA “asserted that the United States would not be able to keep obligations under the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs if CBD were decontrolled under the CSA,” the FDA letter reveals.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/fda-says-marijuana-ingredient-cbd-doesnt-meet-criteria-for-federal-control/?ref=patrick.net


This is why you're sad?

Trump is letting weed stay with the states where it should be.

Seriously, you'd prefer that the federal government legalize weed and be in charge of regulating it and have the economy in shambles, and Hillary fucking you in the ass with taxes?
30   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 7:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I am just waiting for the mid terms. It would be like watching a horror flick -him going after the deep state -hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 6, 7:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Aphroman says
Seems somebody is too busy watching CNN and fretting about the little girls armed with sticks in distraction, to be able to keep up with what our government is doing.


In April, the DEA “asserted that the United States would not be able to keep obligations under the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs if CBD were decontrolled under the CSA,” the FDA letter reveals.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/fda-says-marijuana-ingredient-cbd-doesnt-meet-criteria-for-federal-control/?ref=patrick.net


This is why you're sad?

Trump is letting weed stay with the states where it should be.

Seriously, you'd prefer that the federal government legalize weed and be...


It doesn’t bother you that our Veterans are left to suffer in the name of upholding treaties with foreigners?

That Americans are forced to choose between their guns or their medicine?

That children are forced to suffer, and if their parents choose to heal them they do so at the risk of losing everything, and going to prison?

Trump is not leaving weed to the States. Trumps DEA is putting foreign treaties ahead of Americans well being

He intentionally picked a lifelong Prohibitionist as his AG in Sessions, to keep the War on Drugs raging

It’s harming American business and costing us tens of billions in wealth, as well as millions of jobs

I’ve never once supported Hillary, and I don’t think she ever claimed to end Prohibition
32   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 8:00pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It doesn’t bother you that our Veterans are left to suffer in the name of upholding treaties with foreigners? - How so?

That Americans are forced to choose between their guns or their medicine? - Again, I disagree with that question on the 4473 form but would Hillary Clinton have made that any better? I think it would be worse as it is in California with the handgun roster (hand gun ban) and the de-facto assault weapons ban. Also let's be honest, is that question really being enforced on the 4473? I think you know the TRUTH, so do I, I know lots of weed smokers.

That children are forced to suffer, and if their parents choose to heal them they do so at the risk of losing everything, and going to prison? - How so?

Trump is not leaving weed to the States. Trumps DEA is putting foreign treaties ahead of Americans well being - Uh yes he is. Are you not invested into multiple weed firms?

He intentionally picked a lifelong Prohibitionist as his AG in Sessions, to keep the War on Drugs raging - I'm not a big fan of sessions. I hope he gets sacked soon.

It’s harming American business and costing us tens of billions in wealth, as well as millions of jobs - In one industry. I think it will change slowly as it all returns to the states.

I’ve never once supported Hillary, and I don’t think she ever claimed to end Prohibition - Good. Hillary is the prototypical Democrat. Far worse than Trump.

I think you'e very biased on the whole thing based on ONE issue (weed), and I understand why. But do you think the people who are worshiping socialism and statism is the way to go here? Really? You MIGHT get less restricted weed at the price of your pocket book, and other personal rights. Plus you'd be on board with the SJW train which is actually ruining America.

Looks to me that you aren't really a Democrat but more of a Libertarian. Should look into that.
33   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 6, 8:04pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Where have I ever defended crazy, weak-minded, emotional and irrational people? That seems to be an accurate description of the people who are constantly triggered by what i say, that aren’t capable of discussion so they resort to personal attacks?


I don't marijuana is the only issue worth getting upset about. If somebody gave me 80% of what I wanted, other than marijuana, what's the problem?
34   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 6, 8:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Aphroman says
Where have I ever defended crazy, weak-minded, emotional and irrational people? That seems to be an accurate description of the people who are constantly triggered by what i say, that aren’t capable of discussion so they resort to personal attacks?


I don't marijuana is the only issue worth getting upset about. If somebody gave me 80% of what I wanted, other than marijuana, what's the problem?


It’s very far reaching

Runaway health care costs and Cannabis Prohibition are closely related

As well as dozens of other issues I’ve been posting about for years

You have to ask yourself the simplest of questions, Why do Republicans feel the need to continue to arrest Americans, imprison them, seize their assets, shoot at their pets, infringe on their rights and freedoms, in the name of Prohibiting Cannabis utilization?
35   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 6, 8:15pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
You have to ask yourself the simplest of questions, Why do Republicans feel the need to continue to arrest Americans, imprison them, seize their assets, shoot at their pets, infringe on their rights and freedoms, in the name of Prohibiting Cannabis utilization?



The Obama administration didn't seize any marijuana 2008-2016?
36   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 6, 8:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
It doesn’t bother you that our Veterans are left to suffer in the name of upholding treaties with foreigners? - How so?

That Americans are forced to choose between their guns or their medicine? - Again, I disagree with that question on the 4473 form but would Hillary Clinton have made that any better? I think it would be worse as it is in California with the handgun roster (hand gun ban) and the de-facto assault weapons ban. Also let's be honest, is that question really being enforced on the 4473? I think you know the TRUTH, so do I, I know lots of weed smokers.

That children are forced to suffer, and if their parents choose to heal them they do so at the risk of losing everything, and going to prison? - How so?

Trump is not leaving weed to the States. Trumps DEA is putting foreign treaties ahead of Americans well being - Uh yes he is. Are you not invested into multiple weed firms?

He intentionally picked a lifelong Prohibitionist as his AG in Sessions, to ...


Federal Law prohibits Veterans access to Medical Cannabis. How can you not know this? It’s a God send for those suffering from PTSD and desiring an alternative to Opioids

For gun owners, there’s no need for hypotheticals about Muh Hillary. Fuck her i would never vote for her so quit referencing her. Republicans are in power so that’s who Americans must take to task on their horrible laws. The last president of the NRA agrees with me that Republicans are fucking over every American wrt the right to bear arms and have access to medical cannabis

Children are forced to suffer because Republicans continue their War on Drugs. Cannabis is the best proven remedy for treating seizures. If you want to cure your child the Republicans label you a criminal and you risk losing your kid and going to prison.

Trump is not leaving marijuana to the States. He had his DOJ appointments upheld for 100+ days because he wouldn’t allow protections for State cannabis business to continue as they were. How do you not know this?

Why are you ok with Republicans harming the medical plantflower industry?

Why should it be one or the other? I can reject both wrongs

I’m not a Democrat, what ever gave you that impression? I’m far more Libertarian than most who claim to be Libertarian
37   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 6, 8:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Aphroman says
You have to ask yourself the simplest of questions, Why do Republicans feel the need to continue to arrest Americans, imprison them, seize their assets, shoot at their pets, infringe on their rights and freedoms, in the name of Prohibiting Cannabis utilization?



The Obama administration didn't seize any marijuana 2008-2016?


What does that have to do with Trump appointing Sessions and repealing the Cole Memo? Stop living in the past and start coping with the Now.

I thought Trump was different/better than Obama?
38   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 8:23pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Look man. I agree with you. I don't understand the whole weed thing with ultra conservatives. I think all adults should be responsible for their own choices (weed, beer, etc).

But I think the GOP is leaning more towards liberty than the Democrats. I'm not sure how you can argue that any other way.

I voted for Ron Paul twice who was very open about weed. I also voted for Johnson.

2020 I'll probably vote for Trump. He may not be perfect, but he's better than anything we've gotten in the past 20+ years.
39   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 6, 8:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Look man. I agree with you. I don't understand the whole weed thing with ultra conservatives. I think all adults should be responsible for their own choices (weed, beer, etc).

But I think the GOP is leaning more towards liberty than the Democrats. I'm not sure how you can argue that any other way.

I voted for Ron Paul twice who was very open about weed. I also voted for Johnson.

2020 I'll probably vote for Trump. He may not be perfect, but he's better than anything we've gotten in the past 20+ years.


Agreed.
40   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 8:28pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is how I explain my political viewpoints to friends.

"I wish my married gay friends could defend their home and weed stash with an AR15 just as the founders intended."
41   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 6, 8:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Look man. I agree with you. I don't understand the whole weed thing with ultra conservatives. I think all adults should be responsible for their own choices (weed, beer, etc).

But I think the GOP is leaning more towards liberty than the Democrats. I'm not sure how you can argue that any other way.

I voted for Ron Paul twice who was very open about weed. I also voted for Johnson.

2020 I'll probably vote for Trump. He may not be perfect, but he's better than anything we've gotten in the past 20+ years.


I’m not sure how anyone can argue that Republicans are protecting our liberties any better than Democrats. I don’t really care which shitty party is in power, as i find politics very disinteresting.

I care about my Country, our people, and the government.

Pete Sessions has blocked 39 bills from reaching the House floor that would benefit Americans by fixing horrible laws. Why aren’t Republicans taking him to task? That’s about as Anti American as it gets. Almost all of those bills were introduced by Democrats, who while worthless and shitty, are the only ally Americans have on this issue.

I believe it is much more important to hold whichever party is in power, feet to the fire on actual acts of governance. I’ll leave CNN and the freaks and weirdos to those who enjoy simpleton politics as a hobby. I have better things to do with my time
42   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 8:36pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Trump. He may not be perfect, but he's better than anything we've gotten in the past 20+ years.


Also agreed.

Trump, for all his flaws, is still the best president America has had in our lifetimes.
43   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 6, 8:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
Goran_K says
Look man. I agree with you. I don't understand the whole weed thing with ultra conservatives. I think all adults should be responsible for their own choices (weed, beer, etc).

But I think the GOP is leaning more towards liberty than the Democrats. I'm not sure how you can argue that any other way.

I voted for Ron Paul twice who was very open about weed. I also voted for Johnson.

2020 I'll probably vote for Trump. He may not be perfect, but he's better than anything we've gotten in the past 20+ years.


Agreed.


Yet you will chide liberals 100x and Republicans never, while they hold power and enforce Failed Prohibition. You always used to claim to stand for all the things that Republicans violate, so why are you so quick to get into bed with them, and then defend them for drunkingly abusing you?

I don’t understand the relentless desire to live a life of SJWing. America is a great big country. I do business in multiple states, with hundreds of people, and I’m able to completely avoid ever crossing paths with any of the crap you seem to fixate on 24/7. I’m not in some flyover country either, rather a couple hours drive from more than half the nations population. Y’all should take some personal responsibility about your choice of where you live. It’s like moving to Jamaica and complaining about the heat
44   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 6, 8:50pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
mell says
Goran_K says
Look man. I agree with you. I don't understand the whole weed thing with ultra conservatives. I think all adults should be responsible for their own choices (weed, beer, etc).

But I think the GOP is leaning more towards liberty than the Democrats. I'm not sure how you can argue that any other way.

I voted for Ron Paul twice who was very open about weed. I also voted for Johnson.

2020 I'll probably vote for Trump. He may not be perfect, but he's better than anything we've gotten in the past 20+ years.


Agreed.


Yet you will chide liberals 100x and Republicans never, while they hold power and enforce Failed Prohibition. You always used to claim to stand for all the things that Republicans violate, so why are you so quick to get into bed with them, and then defend t...


I differed wrt neocon warmongering, drug and prostitution laws and the patriot act mass phone collection and subsidies. All of those differences except for the drug/prostitution laws and some subsidies are gone with Trump's reformed Republican party. That's a pretty close match. On the Dem side I may agree with 2 or 3 issues instead and fiercely disagree on the remaining majority. 80/20 rule clearly in favor of the Repubs. Plus some issues carry more weight than others. So I'm looking forward to 4 more years unless miraculously a better candidate comes forward. Trump or Rand 2020.
45   BayArea   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 9:05pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I didn’t vote for Trump but I won’t make that mistake twice.
46   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 9:06pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Supporting Freedom, Liberty, and our Sovereignty is extremism now? What kind of American would I be if I abandoned everything that America stands for? Everything our Veterans have fought for?
In what particular way does the appointment of Kavannaugh to the Supreme Court endanger any of these things? Seems like if anything it would enhance them.
47   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 6, 9:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I just find it bizarre how one can rationalize sacrificing their own personal constitution, but I understand that others value feeling like they’re on the cool kid team over standing for something and putting their party ahead of their country.

Democrats are powerless, so why waste time whinging about their whinging 24/7? What benefit does that confer?

Because it’s obvious the great costs that it yields. Your country is suffering for your silent complicity. Why don’t Trumpublicans have the courage to take their party to task on the things that you know are wrong. It doesn’t make sense
48   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 6, 9:16pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

P N Dr Lo R says
Aphroman says
Supporting Freedom, Liberty, and our Sovereignty is extremism now? What kind of American would I be if I abandoned everything that America stands for? Everything our Veterans have fought for?
In what particular way does the appointment of Kavannaugh to the Supreme Court endanger any of these things? Seems like if anything it would enhance them.


It keeps the Dems from legislating through the court, something they’ve done ever since FDR’s threats to the SCOTUS in the 1930’s.
49   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 6, 9:34pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Democrats are powerless


I disagree. They have the power of the main stream media which is fading as an institution, but should NOT be under estimated. As you said yourself, it's a tool for sheep. Well, there are a lot of sheep.
50   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 9:36pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
They have the power of the main stream media
And they have academe in the bag. The movies as well, which are really just a big propaganda machine.
51   Dannyman   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 6, 10:24pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump is different than Bush, and way different than Obama.
52   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 7, 7:29am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dannyman says
Trump is different than Bush, and way different than Obama.


Globalism vs Patriotism
53   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Oct 7, 7:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dannyman says
Trump is different than Bush, and way different than Obama.


Bush introduced the Junior Senator on the floor as the next Presidential contender. I can't find the news clip anywhere but I remember seeing it on the Cable news at the time.
54   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 7, 9:34am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Democrats are powerless


Te that to Kavanaughs wife or the hoards of braindead zombies who protested him as a rapist.
55   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 8, 8:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Te that to Kavanaughs wife or the hoards of braindead zombies who protested him as a rapist.



Exactly. Just because they lost the SCOTUS battle doesn't mean they don't have claws. I feel sorry for what Kavanaugh had to go through, but he also had to expect it. I know I would. The left is completely depraved.
56   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 8, 8:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Aphroman says
Democrats are powerless


Te that to Kavanaughs wife or the hoards of braindead zombies who protested him as a rapist.


What power do they hold in our government?
57   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 8, 8:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
What power do they hold in our government?


Aphroman, have you read the Federalist papers (all 85 essays)?

I promise your answer to this question has a point.
58   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 8, 8:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Aphroman says
What power do they hold in our government?


Aphroman, have you read the Federalist papers (all 85 essays)?

I promise your answer to this question has a point.


Yes
59   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 8, 9:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So Hamilton kinda answered your question, right?
60   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 8, 12:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
So Hamilton kinda answered your question, right?


No

Either did anyone here at Patnet

If you claim that Democrats hold power in our government, why not give an example?

I’m seeing a Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches all having Republicans in complete control
61   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 8, 12:35pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
If you claim that Democrats hold power


The left holds MASSIVE propaganda power with control of education, MSM media, hollywood, social media, and major tech. They have used this power to divide us, brainwash our youths, and generally push us towards their tyrannical anti-american/pro-globalism agenda as per their american and international billionaire owners.

Luckily, Trump and the R's are in control of our government. The rest of our power-institutions, which the left controls, will take longer to dismantle. Good thing we elected our Trump bull in a PC china shop. No-one is better at exposing and dismantling these entrenched powers than Trump.
62   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 8, 12:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Luckily, Trump and the R's are in control of our government. The rest of our power-institutions, which the left controls, will take longer to dismantle. Good thing we elected our Trump bull in a PC china shop. No-one is better at exposing and dismantling these entrenched powers than Trump.



We MUST fix textbooks and mandate a minimum curriculum and intellectual diversity in HS and State Universities.

Must consider taking tenure boards away from Liberal Arts Departments and having a democratically elected - or appointed by Elected Officials - people pick Professors.

Wouldn't it be great if Governor Scott of Florida picked the tenure board that decided which Sociology/History/etc. Professors got Tenure at the University of Central Florida, etc.?
63   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 8, 1:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

We MUST fix textbooks and mandate a minimum curriculum and intellectual diversity in HS and State Universities.

Must consider taking tenure boards away from Liberal Arts Departments and having a democratically elected - or appointed by Elected Officials - people pick Professors.

Wouldn't it be great if Governor Scott of Florida picked the tenure board that decided which Sociology/History/etc. Professors got Tenure at the University of Central Florida, etc.?


I'd prefer just to have federal money removed from the process, then allow the local authorities to do whatever they see fit for their children. If you dont like it, move to the next county over. Federally mandated standards mean there is no competition between localities, and no ability for a citizen to vote with their tax dollars for their preferred educational system.

Heres an example, go look at the state income tax rates in early 1900's. No state had much higher than a few % points, because the citizens would simply move to a state that is more favorable.

Within a few years of federal income tax, we had a top federal rate in the 60% range.

Get the federal govt out of education! Return power to the states and local leadership!

^^do that and the problem solves itself.

OR we can mandate "dear colleague" letter type progressive tyranny from federal regulators, absolutely decaying the value of our university system and turning it into a political propaganda machine.

Q music "we dont need no...EDUCATION... we dont need no...THOUGHT CONTROL" . (From an era when artists actually expressed real ideas and societal critiques.)
64   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 8, 1:41pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

One only needs to look at the LAUSD budget, then test scores, to see that the government needs to get out of education.
65   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 8, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Heres an example, go look at the state income tax rates in early 1900's. No state had much higher than a few % points, because the citizens would simply move to a state that is more favorable.


Florida doesn't have an income tax. But I think we do need some state wide standards for education, at least for State Universities. We certainly need to fix Professor tenure, because it's totally broken.

Florida does have amazing Charter Schools, including some new Classical Education Schools.

True, the Good, and the Beautiful.
http://www.pineapplecoveclassicalacademywm.com/classical-education/
66   Strategist   ignore (3)   2018 Oct 8, 3:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
One only needs to look at the LAUSD budget, then test scores, to see that the government needs to get out of education.


Let the Asians take over our education system. They know better.
67   Goran_K   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 9, 11:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
No


Okay it's obvious now that you haven't read all 85 essays from the Federalist papers.

Hamilton answered your question in a very detailed manner. I'll give you a hint: "Mob".

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