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There Was No Debate When We Needed One

By Patrick following x   2018 Oct 8, 8:05pm 352 views   19 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2018/10/06/there-was-no-debate-when-we-needed-one/

The Democrats and their feminist allies failed the country in their approach to the Kavanaugh hearing. Instead of finding out whether Kavanaugh believes in the unitary executive theory that the president has powers unaccountable to Congress and the Judiciary and agrees that a Justice Department underling, a Korean immigrant, can write secret memos that permit the president to violate the US Constitution, US statutory law, and international treaties, the Democrats’ entire focus was on a vague and unsubstantiated accusation that Kavanaugh when 17 years old and under the influence of alcohol tussled fully clothed with a fully clothed 15 year old girl in a bed at an unchaperoned house party.

Feminists turned this vague accusation missing in crucial details into “rape,” with a crazed feminist Georgetown University professor declaring Kavanaugh to be “a serial rapist” who along with the Senate Judiciary Committee’s male members should be given agonizing deaths and then castrated and fed to swine.

A presstitute at USA Today suggested that Kavanaugh was a pedofile and should not be allowed to coach his daughter’s sports team. On the basis of nothing real, a Supreme Court nominee’s reputation was squandered. ...

Instead of using the opportunity to find out if Kavanaugh stood for liberty or unbridled presidential power, feminist harpies indulged in an orgy of man-hate.

And it wasn’t just the RadFem harpies. It was the entire liberal/progresive/left which has discredited itself even more than the crazed feminist Georgetown University professor, who, by the way, unlike what would have been required of a heterosexual male, did not have to apologize and was not fired as a male would have been.

There is now a “funding platform” endorsed by liberal/progressive/left websites that claims to have raised $3 million to unseat Senator Susan Collins for voting, after hearing all the scant evidence, to confirm Kavanaugh. Websites such as Commondreams, CounterPunch, OpEdNews are losing their credibility as they mire themselves in divisive Identity Politics in which everyone is innocent except the white heterosexual male.
1   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 8, 8:16pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Thanks for the article Patrick. Feels like left gone off the deep end lately. They've embraced mentally ill crazy people as the way to run the party. And now as a party Democrats are just an embarrassment. Party ran by basically embraced a platform of homosexuals, feminists, and few who can't figure out their own gender.

I'm still ticked off at the tranny bathrooms in public schools, fucking idiots never have money for schools, but this apparently was their fucking priority number one.
2   marcus   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 8, 9:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anti_forum
3   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 8, 10:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
FortWayneIndiana says
Feels like left gone off the deep end lately


IF all it takes is one whacko to generalize about the left, then I could surely use ony one of several individuals on this forum to generalize how far off the deep end the right wing is.


Actions of the left speak for themselves. This isn't generalizations.

- no money for schools and children in CA, except when they need tranny bathrooms... that they found money for.
- people can't pay rent in CA, water shortages.... but left focuses on "marriage equality" and promoting "gender neutral bathrooms".

Peoples needs are not being met, and yet left are pushing their gay agenda instead. Democrats embraced stupid and now living what they created, lots of stupid. Pussyhatters and their pet soy boy servants.
4   steverbeaver   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 9, 12:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Thanks. I'll look into this group more based on what I just read.
5   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 9, 1:56am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is exactly it. There was a lot to discuss that wasn't that great about Kavanaugh, especially with the Patriot Act and his allegiance to the criminal Bush/Cheney axis and their false flags to mire us in war.

Instead, the Dems were orchestrated by sleazeball management to go for the lowest order of scummy, fake tactics. Honestly, I thought Feinstein was listening into an earpiece and receiving prompts at times when she pretended to be looking at papers. She's an old lady, and she acted like she was reading papers when she had no glasses. There might be cataract lenses that would allow this to some extent, but in low light, I doubt she could read shit from the papers she was shuffling. The way she bowed and moved her head around rather than just looking straight forward was quite odd.
6   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 9, 6:25am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The left has gone insane. What we need is moar GOOe like we’ve gotten since January 2016, GOPe tax cuts, GOPe Supreme Court appointees, GOPe leaving Heritage Foundation Care wholly in tact.

With Republicans in absolute control of the government, We the People can focus on what is really important; berating liberals. There’s no room for Freedoms and Liberty in America. Long Live the GOPe!!
7   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2018 Oct 9, 6:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Roberts consistently reaches through the murk.

Still, I think everyone here can agree that we can look forward to decades of liberty preserving jurisprudence from the progeny of Timothy McVeigh and Alex Jones who now own and operate the supreme court.
8   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Oct 9, 7:14am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Instead of using the opportunity to find out if Kavanaugh stood for liberty or unbridled presidential power

Actually, this was well covered. Kavanaugh had been meeting with 64 Senators since July, has turned over 4,800 pages of papers, and has an easily searchable judicial record. The hearings themselves were started on Sep 4th, and there was a solid 4 days where stuff like Kavanaigh's service under Bush, Roe v Wade, Mueller, Trumps "attacks" on the judiciary, Watergate, and other issues were probed. This stuff is boring, so I guess no one paid attention until it got juicy with the Ford accusations. Remember, that Ford stuff was only brought in at the very last moment for the purpose of delaying the vote.

And one other comment - nobody really believes Ford - at all. They know that an totally uncorroborated accusation (even denied, by her supposed witnesses) from a strong partisan operative providing sketchy details about a supposed event from 35 years ago is nonsense. Especially when Ford explicitly lied during the testimony about being afraid to fly and her experience with polygraphs. The Senators who claimed something like "she was assaulted, but not by Kavanaugh" are just too chickenshit to say that Ford is lying, lest the left parlay the disbelief of Ford as being the same as disbelieving all rape victims in general.
9   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 9, 7:20am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Democrats blew a major chance to look like grown-ups. They could have stuck to questioning Kavanagh on his opinions and qualifications.

Instead, they turned the shrill accusation machine up to 11.

Most Americans are getting sick of it.

It should have been a job interview, but instead they turned it into a trial, and nothing like a fair trial either.
11   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 9, 10:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
And one other comment - nobody really believes Ford - at all. They know that an totally uncorroborated accusation (even denied, by her supposed witnesses) from a strong partisan operative providing sketchy details about a supposed event from 35 years ago is nonsense. Especially when Ford explicitly lied during the testimony about being afraid to fly and her experience with polygraphs. The Senators who claimed something like "she was assaulted, but not by Kavanaugh" are just too chickenshit to say that Ford is lying, lest the left parlay the disbelief of Ford as being the same as disbelieving all rape victims in general.


This.

Nor does it have seemed to have stopped her cheating on her boyfriend while putting $600 on his credit card without permission, only owning up to it and paying it back after he threatened to call the fraud department to investigate the charge.
12   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2018 Oct 9, 10:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
I think everyone here can agree


We'll be having none of that!
........
Wonder what evidence Mueller has on Prof. Ford? That was his mission statement.
Rep/Cons have nothing,so they misdirect,trying to avoid what they don't know about what Mueller knows.
It's a Russia investigation not a Trump investigation. He's got nothing to worry about if he is clean.
13   HEYYOU   ignore (18)   2018 Oct 9, 11:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

A debate & investigation would have been nice instead of believing the Republican lie,Iraq has WMD.
14   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 9, 11:42am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
The Democrats blew a major chance to look like grown-ups. They could have stuck to questioning Kavanagh on his opinions and qualifications.

Instead, they turned the shrill accusation machine up to 11.

Most Americans are getting sick of it.

It should have been a job interview, but instead they turned it into a trial, and nothing like a fair trial either.


The Dems can’t. The entirety of their fundraising is from demented boomers who learned protest via social upheaval. So you get what you have now. It’s only going to get worse as there’s already strong calls to get rid of the current Democrat leadership and replace with even more radical individuals.

Look, there’s never been a peaceful “socialist” takeover and don’t give me any nonsense about Scandinavia which are all still free market capitalist economies. The goal here is socialism and eventually one world government. The Democrats need to be stopped at all costs.
15   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Oct 9, 1:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Aphroman says
And one other comment - nobody really believes Ford - at all. They know that an totally uncorroborated accusation (even denied, by her supposed witnesses) from a strong partisan operative providing sketchy details about a supposed event from 35 years ago is nonsense. Especially when Ford explicitly lied during the testimony about being afraid to fly and her experience with polygraphs. The Senators who claimed something like "she was assaulted, but not by Kavanaugh" are just too chickenshit to say that Ford is lying, lest the left parlay the disbelief of Ford as being the same as disbelieving all rape victims in general.


This.

Nor does it have seemed to have stopped her cheating on her boyfriend while putting $600 on his credit card without permission, only owning up to it and paying it back after he threatened to call the fraud department to investigate the charge.


You incorrectly quoted Aphro w this very logical quote. Had to scroll up to find out to confirm it wasn't him. Lol
16   Aphroman   ignore (6)   2018 Oct 9, 2:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Aphroman says
And one other comment - nobody really believes Ford - at all. They know that an totally uncorroborated accusation (even denied, by her supposed witnesses) from a strong partisan operative providing sketchy details about a supposed event from 35 years ago is nonsense. Especially when Ford explicitly lied during the testimony about being afraid to fly and her experience with polygraphs. The Senators who claimed something like "she was assaulted, but not by Kavanaugh" are just too chickenshit to say that Ford is lying, lest the left parlay the disbelief of Ford as being the same as disbelieving all rape victims in general.


This.

Nor does it have seemed to have stopped her cheating on her boyfriend while putting $600 on his credit card without permission, only owning up to it an...


I dare you to point out any instance of Aphroman being anything other than logical
17   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Oct 9, 2:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
You incorrectly quoted Aphro w this very logical quote. Had to scroll up to find out to confirm it wasn't him. Lol


D'oh. Apologies.
18   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 9, 9:25pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This was never about Kavanaugh at all. Not. At. All.

It was entirely about the election and, for Harris and Booker, the 2020 nomination.
19   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (0)   2018 Oct 9, 11:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Democrats managed to piss everyone off with that shit show, and took away our ability to debate this. They turned this into "every man accused of rape is guilty by default" crap.




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