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Three weeks to the day since Khashoggi vanished after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Erdoğan has pledged to table the “naked truth” about what happened to the columnist and critic, whose fate continues to grip both countries and polarise the Middle East.
If he stays true to his pledge, much of the evidence that Turkey has gathered, incriminating Saudi Arabia in a plot to kill Khashoggi, will be revealed: in pictures, video and even bloodcurdling audio said to document his torture and death. ...
Turkey seems awfully upset about this particular assassination. I wonder why.
Saudis are lying.
Turkey is lying.
Trump is lying.
Everyone else knows nothing.
he he he he he he he
Strategist saysTurkey seems awfully upset about this particular assassination. I wonder why.
As Saudi Arabia under MbS does away with the "Export and Fund Wahabi Extremists" Policy, there's a void.
Erdogan wants to fill that void, and he supports ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
But I also suspect Saudi Arabia of being ISIS.
However, we finally have a Prince running things who is under 40, has removed the power of the Committee for Vice/Virtue to make arrests on multiple issues, got women driving, and attending events without male chaperones.
It just strikes me as saying, well, La Cosa Nostra, yes, they've done some bad things, but they are reforming!
They need some marketing! How about this:
"Saudi Arabia, the good Nazis"
However, we finally have a Prince running things who is under 40, has removed the power of the Committee for Vice/Virtue to make arrests on multiple issues, got women driving, and attending events without male chaperones.
Nothing would be better than Saudi and Turkey shooting at each other, with a little ISIS and Syria sprinkled on top. It's about time they spent their money killing each other than killing Americans.
The good news is that the militant Muslim Princes that financed 9/11 are also MbS' enemies, so he will torture them anyway, and use bonesaws on those responsible while they are still alive.I say let MbS flay their skin with 100 lashes until they pass out, wait for them to regain consciousness and do it again and again for weeks on end until they die. That's much more effective and just than..
With 80% of saudi's under 25, that have a degree in islmaic studies, lacking any quantifications/skills to make a living at all that are totally dependent on oil money welfare
All MBS is doing with his "liberalizations" is trying to delay the fall of the house of saud.
and who are these militant princes that financed 9/11 and are mbs's enemies? another non existent list we will never see.
I notice stopping funding for terrorism isn't on the list. Nor will it ever be; All MBS is doing with his "liberalizations" is trying to delay the fall of the house of saud. With 80% of saudi's under 25, that have a degree in islmaic studies, lacking any quantifications/skills to make a living at all that are totally dependent on oil money welfare to live the oil money drying up day of reckoning is in sight for the royal family. . Like putin brutal internal political repression and playing up external enemies boogeymen is the only option to survive.
Did you tell us what Sanctions Obama imposed on Saudi Arabia for executing all those gays and witches yet? And why he rewarded Iran for torturing and executing ditto with the Iran Deal?
You're great at demanding answers, bad at providing any.
When a country sends 15 goons to another country to kill someone it's called murder. In case you haven't looked at the news in a long time murder is always news worthy no matter where it happens.
Only this murder is newsworthy. Thousands of murders the world over every single day, and only this one gets the front page news day after day.
Please please stop embarrassing yourself with this. When a government arrests someone, has a trial, then executes them it's called a legal system. It may be a bad legal system. It may be a legal system many people disagree with. But it's accepted internationally as a normal function of government. When a country sends 15 goons to another country to kill someone it's called murder. In case you haven't looked at the news in a long time murder is always news worthy no matter where it happens.
bob2356 saysPlease please stop embarrassing yourself with this. When a government arrests someone, has a trial, then executes them it's called a legal system. It may be a bad legal system. It may be a legal system many people disagree with. But it's accepted internationally as a normal function of government. When a country sends 15 goons to another country to kill someone it's called murder. In case you haven't looked at the news in a long time murder is always news worthy no matter where it happens.
So it's okay to torture and execute Gays and Witches, so long as there is a Trial in an Authoritarian Country like SA and Iran. It doesn't merit any pressure or sanctions.
Only this murder is newsworthy. Thousands of murders the world over every single day, and only this one gets the front page news day after day.
So it's okay to torture and execute Gays and Witches, so long as there is a Trial in an Authoritarian Country like SA and Iran. It doesn't merit any pressure or sanctions.
So it's okay to torture and execute Gays and Witches, so long as there is a Trial in an Authoritarian Country like SA and Iran
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Only this murder is newsworthy. Thousands of murders the world over every single day, and only this one gets the front page news day after day.
Plenty of murders make front page news day after day. The russian poisoning of Litvinenko was front page in the news around the world for weeks without 3 countries and leaders making the story bigger and bigger every day. Do you suppose the press reported russia poisoning Litvinenko on the front page because they were upset with MBS making KSA liberal ? ROFLOL.
So yea it was ok to torture and execute gays in the good old USA for a long time.
bob2356 saysand who are these militant princes that financed 9/11 and are mbs's enemies? another non existent list we will never see.
Did you tell us what Sanctions Obama imposed on Saudi Arabia for executing all those gays and witches yet? And why he rewarded Iran for torturing and executing ditto with the Iran Deal?
You're great at demanding answers, bad at providing any.
bob2356 saysSo yea it was ok to torture and execute gays in the good old USA for a long time.
Yes, it WAS OK in the good old days, until secular beliefs civilized the religious beliefs. Guess that makes it OK for Islamic countries to continue with their barbaric practices in todays world.
Good thinking, Bob. I hereby nominate you for the Patnet Peace Prize.
Excerpt: "Prince Sultan also said that the aim of the film was to insult Islam. Much of Saudi criticism of the film was directed towards what was called its portrayal of Islam as a harsh, insensitive religion
Yes, it WAS OK in the good old days, until secular beliefs civilized the religious beliefs. Guess that makes it OK for Islamic countries to continue with their barbaric practices in todays world.
Good thinking, Bob. I hereby nominate you for the Patnet Peace Prize.
This Kashoggi guy was not murdered in a foreign country by his government as in the case of Russia. He was murdered on Saudi soil.
An embassy is considered foreign soil.
1835 is the same as 2018. Thanks bob
Nice job with that strawman. Keep on making shit up and claiming I said it.. The lengths you go to to create strawmen and misdirection are impressive.
It's okay to execute Gays and Witches - and apparently unmarried Princesses for adultery - if you have a Trial based on Shari'a Law and Islamism.
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Turkey was the great loser in WWI. If it had been able to hold on to Saudi Arabia and Iraq it would have controlled most of that oil and been a major power today. Now it may be trying to get back some measure of that influence by telling the truth about Khashoggi's death, slowly, in pieces that keep it in the news over and over.