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Will the 30 year hit 4%?

By MisterLefty following x   2018 Nov 1, 3:06am 807 views   12 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


Symbol Name Last Price Change % Change 52 Week Range Day Chart
^IRX 13 WEEK TREASURY BILL 2.278 -0.005 -0.22%
^FVX Treasury Yield 5 Years 2.987 +0.048 +1.63%
^TNX 10-Yr Bond 3.16 +0.05 +1.58%
^TYX Treasury Yield 30 Years 3.402 +0.046 +1.37%

https://finance.yahoo.com/bonds

1   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 1, 8:06am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Eventually, yes.
2   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 1, 12:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There will be a recession before it hits 4%, and in that recession it will fall to 2%.
Way too much debt around for rates to rise.
3   MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 1, 6:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
There will be a recession before it hits 4%, and in that recession it will fall to 2%.
Powell said he is raising rates to keep the economy from overheating. By raising rates, he'll be able to lower them in an economic downturn. But by raising rates, he may cause the downturn.
4   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 2, 6:17am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, the 30 year bond will hit 4%. No one knows exactly when.
The economy is much too hot. We don't need to create any more jobs right now. There are not enough job applicants to fill available jobs.
Trump needs to take the opportunity and start cutting the deficits. If we cannot or will not cut the deficits now in the middle of a spectacular economic boom, how are we ever gonna cut the deficits? We need to save for a rainy day.
5   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 2, 10:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

MisterLefty says
But by raising rates, he may cause the downturn.

The whole point is to cause a downturn. There is no such thing as a permanently high employment plateau.
6   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 2, 10:42am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
The whole point is to cause a downturn. There is no such thing as a permanently high employment plateau.


The planned downturn was cancelled on November 9th, 2016.
7   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 2, 10:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
The planned downturn was cancelled on November 9th, 2016.

Rainbows and unicorns!
8   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 2, 1:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
MisterLefty says
But by raising rates, he may cause the downturn.

The whole point is to cause a downturn.


Slowdown, my friend, a slowdown.
9   MisterLefty   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 2, 4:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rates be going up.

Jobs smash estimates with gain of 250,000, wage gains pass 3% for first time since recession
10   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 2, 4:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Heraclitusstudent says
MisterLefty says
But by raising rates, he may cause the downturn.

The whole point is to cause a downturn.


Slowdown, my friend, a slowdown.


You can't just slowdown. This thing only goes forward at a certain speed - or backward.
The labor pool is exhausted, employment can't grow, time to weed out the weak.
11   everything   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 5, 3:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

They call it a "soft landing"
12   TrumpingTits   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 5, 7:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLefty says
Powell said he is raising rates to keep the economy from overheating.


Taylor Rule Keynesiantard bullshit. Rates should raise by themselves according to what the market wants. Period.

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