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Bannon Crushes Frum In Debate On "The Rise Of Populism"


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2018 Nov 3, 2:42pm   808 views  4 comments

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-02/watch-explosive-munk-debate-bannon-vs-frum-rise-populism

www.youtube.com/embed/poq5ZrAc7pk

I skipped around because there is a lot of filler, especially at first, but it was definitely interesting to hear from Bannon directly. Frum, not so interesting.

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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 3, 3:58pm  

Frum the NeverTrump Neoconservative Bum.
2   Ceffer   2018 Nov 3, 6:14pm  

Bannon did a surprisingly good job of articulating his positions. Frum was a Gatling Gun of ungrounded logical fallacies (strawmen, appeals to emotion, ad hominem, assertion fallacies, flogging strident press propaganda as truth, even tossing in global warming and catering to the known prejudices of the crowd and venue) to the extent it was hard to keep up with them.

Can't say I am a Bannon fanboy, but at least he stuck to the topics at hand and didn't delve into manipulative cons.
3   Shaman   2018 Nov 3, 6:22pm  

I watched the whole thing. Or at least listened while doing other stuff. Frum got pretty owned, lashing out with quite a bit of anger, but Bannon was more than generous about the way he made his argument. I suspect that it was Bannon’s gentility that won over the very civilized Canadian crowd in the end, as well as his superior argument. Populism is rule by the people, based on the concerns and needs of the people. We either have a form of democracy or we have a class of nobility which rules us. The Democrats prefer the elite to rule and the Deplorables to shut the fuck up and sit down. Especially those hated white fucking males! Man they hate us. It’s super hard to like someone whose stated goal is my destruction. I’m just not that masochistic and I suspect most of the other white males out there aren’t either.
4   Ceffer   2018 Nov 3, 6:31pm  

Could just be that Frum was playing the designated devil's advocate for purposes of the debate, which requires opposition, but he just couldn't rise above rhetoric to provide any meaningful information or even an interesting point of view (mostly just spew).

Who knows if he even believes his 'globalist' position.

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