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Words matter, but free speech is more important


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2018 Nov 4, 12:22am   2,972 views  13 comments

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I recently realized that I rely on left/right, liberal/conservative designations too much. There are varying degrees of two factions, but they are not Democrats verses Republicans. The two polar opposite camps are the globalist and the nationalists. The trend you see in the States is the same trend you see going on all over the world, with the EU verging upon a break-up, with Brexit, and Italy wanting to change the EU rules, and countries like Poland and Czechoslovakia refusing to accept immigrants into their countries, against EU mandates and now the US is doing the same thing. The trend is away from a globalist agenda, a one world currency, one world government, toward a nationalistic trend.

The Democrats are only part of the picture. The bigger part of the whole panorama is what unites Democrats with the Never Trumpers, those Republicans like John McCain and family who hate Trump, but not for the reasons they told the press. They may vilify Trump as another Hitler, although McCain is ten times worse than Trump from what I have seen, the real reason as they see it is, Trump is destroying America, that is, their chances for a globalist corporate consolidation and take-over of the world.

Now who sounds like Hitler?

Trump has declared himself a nationalist, but so was Gandhi: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mahatma-Gandhi

So now I will refer to the liberal and some conservative mainstream media as the neocon globalist outlets. Very few outlets stand against a flood of propaganda supporting the globalist position on global warming, and a leftist social agenda limiting free speech and enforcing group think rules in colleges and work places.



Lindsey Shepherd, a graduate student and teaching assistant at Wilfrid Laurier University in Ontario, was facing an investigation over her decision to show her class a television debate on laws acknowledging the unique gender pronouns of transgender persons. In the clip, Jordan Peterson, Toronto professor, takes on two panelists who defend legal punishments for those who refuse to comply with unique gender pronouns.

More on this at: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/11/17/canadian-lecturer-censured-after-showing-jordan-peterson-video-in-classroom/

A year after detailed guidance from Yale set off a national debate, many other colleges are still offering detailed advice on how to avoid offensive Halloween costumes.

More on this: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/10/27/colleges-prepare-halloween-advising-students-steer-clear-offensive-costumes

The real John McCain: This discussion group shows video footage of John McCain berating protestors and using a lot of foul language, showing a real ugly side of his character:
www.youtube.com/embed/6QqrVMvxOIg

Will Powers

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1   Patrick   2018 Nov 4, 9:50am  

WillPowers says
I recently realized that I rely on left/right, liberal/conservative designations too much. There are varying degrees of two factions, but they are not Democrats verses Republicans. The two polar opposite camps are the globalist and the nationalists.


Yes, and the nationalist/globalist divide might be fundamentally biological. At the risk of being politically incorrect (gasp!) may I suggest that a large part of the difference, and the reason it always seems to hover at 50%, is that it's largely just the distinction between male and female.

Men evolved to set up well-defined borders specifically to protect their own women from rape or seduction by outside men. This behavior is so fundamental to being male that even chimpanzees will set up groups of males to patrol their borders, viciously attacking encroaching male outsiders. And essentially all team sports have a "home" territory and "enemy" territory. Sports is just practice for life as it was lived over millennia. Males who did not feel a strong compulsion to defend their home territory and women died out, replaced by men who did.

Women, on the other hand, evolved to watch the fight between men and fall in love with the winner, even if he's an outsider. A male gorilla who wants to challenge the alpha gorilla for dominance will grab an infant gorilla child of the alpha and smash it to death. If the challenger can then defeat the alpha in battle, he becomes the new alpha and guess what? The female whose infant he killed falls in love with him in spite of the fact that he killed one of her children, or maybe because of it, since he proved his dominance. Women have very weak group loyalties simply because such loyalties were not conducive to her survival and that of her children. Women who were kidnapped by Vikings or Arabs had little choice but to deal with the new reality, and that meant quickly accepting the deaths of her father, brother, husband etc at the hands of the invaders and moving on to be a good wife for the current winner.

https://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html
Warfare has been a near constant feature of human society before the modern era, and whenever two tribes or kingdoms went to war with each other, the losing side saw many of its fighting-age men exterminated, while the women were assimilated into the invading society. Now, becoming a concubine or a housekeeper is an unfortunate fate, but not nearly as bad as being slaughtered in battle as the men were. To anyone who disagrees, would you like for the men and women to trade outcomes?


Mohammed killed the Jewess Safiyyah's father and husband, and fucked her the same day. But guess what? She remained married to him for 40 years and Mohammed acknolwedged her loyalty to Islam. Sure, she didn't have a choice, but I suspect it's not all that different from the situation with gorillas.

So even now, on a global scale, we see that men are more likely to be for strong borders and women less concerned about it, though neither side can usually articulate why they feel that way. It's just the echoes of millions of experiences with invasions encoded into our neurobiology.
2   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Nov 4, 10:02am  

This is how I see it:

Left seek more of a socialism "equal outcomes", because they want something someone else has. Equal pay regardless of input, equal outcomes regardless of effort or success. Basically consequence free society where they take, while others work to give them.

Right just want to be left alone and certainly do not agree with the left.
3   Patrick   2018 Nov 4, 10:24am  

FortWayneIndiana says
This is how I see it:

Left seek more of a socialism "equal outcomes", because they want something someone else has. Equal pay regardless of input, equal outcomes regardless of effort or success. Basically consequence free society where they take, while others work to give them.


Yes, and this is also a classic male/female divide.

Women innately try to make sure all their children are fed and happy. It's just something they have to do to continue the species.

Men innately compete for status and resources because their value to women and society depends on what they actually accomplish. This is very different from women, who are valued for what they inherently are rather than what they do. Women are the limit on population growth. They don't have to accomplish anything beyond bearing children and making sure they all get fed to have a huge value to any society.

This innate gender differences are expressed partly in present-day politics. Women are much more likely disparage competition and want to give everyone equal shares regardless of effort.

4   WillPowers   2018 Nov 4, 4:57pm  

HEYYOU says

I agree with the Right.Glad you do! It's alright for me to grab the pussies of your female family & friends?


You go ahead and do that and see where it gets you. You think Trump supporters voted for him because he said he grabbed some pussy? You obviously don't get it. And I'm not going to try and explain to someone who is so deluded he thinks that is the reason people voted for Trump. Why did women vote for him then? Get a clue.
5   WillPowers   2018 Nov 4, 4:59pm  

HEYYOU says
I've relied on Dumb/Stupid. I seems more accurate.


If you're a Dem you already belong to the dumb stupid party. Obviously you don't see what's going on because you're brain dead. There is no hope for you.
6   Goran_K   2018 Nov 4, 5:28pm  

Tim Aurora says
Look at the numbers before talking. This is from a right wing website

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/22/democrats-more-educated-republicans-pew-research-c/

WillPowers says
If you're a Dem you already belong to the dumb stupid party. Obviously you don't see what's going on because you're brain dead. There is no hope for you.



Now do the employed tax payer comparison.
7   Goran_K   2018 Nov 13, 8:27am  

Tim Aurora says
Keep on moving the goal post to extend the argument. I did not see you posting any data to support your claims.

Goran_K says
Tim Aurora says
Look at the numbers before talking. This is from a right wing website

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/22/democrats-more-educated-republicans-pew-research-c/

WillPowers says
If you're a Dem you already belong to the dumb stupid party. Obviously you don't see what's going on because you're brain dead. There is no hope for you.



Now do the employed tax payer comparison.


Having a degree in Comp Lit means shit. Utter shit. That's why you won't answer the question.
8   NDrLoR   2018 Nov 13, 8:54am  

Tim Aurora says

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/22/democrats-more-educated


Goran_K says
Having a degree in Comp Lit means shit. Utter shit
I don't doubt it in a day when "education" means the reinterpretation of everything within the context of race/gender/class/sexual orientation/global warming because Democrats are the ones who drink the Kool-Aid, which is really an insult to Kool-Aid.
9   Shaman   2018 Nov 13, 9:04am  

WillPowers says
I'm not going to try and explain to someone who is so deluded


He’s the most notorious troll we have, and I’ve found his comments to be staggeringly useless. Sadly, I must recomend ignore.
10   Shaman   2018 Nov 13, 9:06am  

Democrats might hold more college degrees than Republicans, but if civilization broke down for a month, most of them would starve to death while most Republicans would be just fine. This is another way of saying that the knowledge Dems hold is mostly useless knowledge having nothing to do with the real physical world.
11   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 13, 7:05pm  

So many interesting convos here.

Hey @Patrick, going back to the idea of a databasish thread for attacks, a Meta Thread with the best "Threats to Western Civ/Modernism" might be cool, too.

There's been a few amazing posts lately.

It would also be great if we could zip the thread and D/L for reposting elsewhere (with links back to Pat.net)
12   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Nov 13, 9:01pm  

HEYYOU says
Is that why my taxes increased under Trump/slime Rep/Con scum?


Nah you can blame your tax and spend liberals for that one. Free stuff isn't so free after all. Enjoying the price tag you big baby?
13   Patrick   2018 Nov 14, 8:20am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
So many interesting convos here.

Hey Patrick, going back to the idea of a databasish thread for attacks, a Meta Thread with the best "Threats to Western Civ/Modernism" might be cool, too.

There's been a few amazing posts lately.

It would also be great if we could zip the thread and D/L for reposting elsewhere (with links back to Pat.net)


@TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce Why couldn't you just edit a post and keep it updated? What would a database get you? I don't quite see it, unless you're talking a very large amount of data that needs to be searchable.

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