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Election Conversation with Coworker

By joshuatrio following x   2018 Nov 7, 4:29am 2,390 views   39 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


I'm constantly amazed at how little my peers (who are Democrats) know about the candidates they voted for. For instance, this morning I was speaking with a woman who voted for Stacy Abrams. I asked her why she voted for her, and her response was something along the lines of "she wants to do the best for the community" and "she was raised in a good home" and "she went to three colleges."

I asked her if she agreed with her stance on gun control, immigration, healthcare she knew nothing. When I told her why I disagreed with her stances on these topics, she shutdown and didn't want to talk anymore. She got pissed off at me for trying to have a rational conversation that she was actively engaged in.

It seems like every-time you try to talk to a Dem about the issues, they won't talk about the issues.

This is the same shit I saw back in 2016 when it came to the issues with this coworker (and several others). I'm constantly amazed at how well the Dems do, with how little they have to run on.

1   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 7, 5:23am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I watched Stacey Abrams interview with Chris Cuckmo and even Cuckmo was flabbergasted by her platform of gun confiscation in red Georgia. Also her pro Caravan comments probably sealed the deal.

Luckily this fat queen latifah KFC fan got sent to the unemployment line to collect benefits just like her supporters.

Good riddance.
2   Booger   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 7, 5:54am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How the fuck did she manage to get something like 48% of the vote?
3   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 7, 6:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sad part is that we are 20,000 votes away from a runoff.

78,000 ballots left to count.

I read Abrams voting record and it's damn scary.
4   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 7, 6:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
How the fuck did she manage to get something like 48% of the vote?


"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"
5   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 7, 6:58am   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm constantly amazed at how little my peers (who are Democrats) know about the candidates they voted for.

If you have political discussions with lots of folks, you will find that few know much about issues. The best way to describe most people , both D and R, is "fanboy." That is, people choose a political party like they choose a favorite sports team, and just want their team to win. Partisans do not want to hear their Party supports issues they disagree with any more than the Dallas fan (there is one somewhere, I think) wants to hear his team only won because the ref blew a call.
6   marcus   ignore (8)   2018 Nov 7, 7:02am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

MbS says
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"


TRue. Have you ever seen one of those Trump rallies ?
7   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 7, 7:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
MbS says
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"


TRue. Have you ever seen one of those Trump rallies ?


badum-pshh!
8   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 7, 7:20am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MbS says
Booger says
How the fuck did she manage to get something like 48% of the vote?


"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"


Also

Fat Greasy Fake Queen Latifah: “Free stuff!!! Free stuff!!!”

That’s how Ocasio Cortez got into power.
9   BayArea   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 7, 7:40am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

joshuatrio says
I'm constantly amazed at how little my peers (who are Democrats) know about the candidates they voted for. For instance, this morning I was speaking with a woman who voted for Stacy Abrams. I asked her why she voted for her, and her response was something along the lines of "she wants to do the best for the community" and "she was raised in a good home" and "she went to three colleges."

I asked her if she agreed with her stance on gun control, immigration, healthcare she knew nothing. When I told her why I disagreed with her stances on these topics, she shutdown and didn't want to talk anymore. She got pissed off at me for trying to have a rational conversation that she was actively engaged in.

It seems like every-time you try to talk to a Dem about the issues, they won't talk about the issues.

This is the same shit I saw back in 2016 when it came to the issues with this coworker (and several others). I'm constantly amazed at how well the Dems do, with how little



Sounds like you are on your way to getting fired.
10   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 7, 7:50am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

BayArea says


Sounds like you are on your way to getting fired.


Which is sad, when all I did, was ask why she supported Abrams, and what particular issues mattered to her (and why)...
11   Tenpoundbass   ignore (14)   2018 Nov 7, 8:01am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Notice all of the Commies that took their race to the top of the Commie Socialist Hill.
They All died on that Mother Fucker.
The only ones that won, were the ones that were running pretty much unopposed.
All of those that had the least amount of a challenger, beat the Commies, regardless how many AListers stumped for them and regardless how many Soros Millions was thrown on those races.

Think I'm kidding about dying on that Hill. Let Beto, Gillium, and Abrams be solid proof of what I'm talking about.

They would have won had they ran a sensible Democrat Left campaign and not a Hard Left Socialist Threat.
Yes they were a Threat to their voters, they threatened everyone. They are tone deaf fucks, threat and bully that's all they can offer. Threats have replaced campaign promises.
And they all died on that Lonely Hill. Say a prayer for the Commies willya?
12   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2018 Nov 7, 8:08am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
How the fuck did she manage to get something like 48% of the vote?


What was the turnout of black voters in Georgia?

Blacks vote in lock step and shun and humiliate those that don’t tow the line.
13   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 7, 8:19am   ↑ like (8)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Beto and Gillium came too close for comfort for me. Both of those guys could have served in the USSR and fit like a glove.
14   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2018 Nov 7, 10:18am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Have you ever tried talking to a right winger about politics? They usually have all the depth of a kindergartner. Trump is doing good! I like Trump! Trump likes me!


False. You just made that up. Studies have consistently shown that conservatives are more educated about issues than libtards are.
15   HEYYOU   ignore (26)   2018 Nov 7, 10:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

I didn't make this up!
Republicans voted for Trump knowing the issues.
5 time draft dodger
Multiple adulterer
Sexual abuser/harasser
"Art of the Deal" Casino bankrupter
Knowing the issues & not comprehending the issues is a Republican virtue.

Now he's a proven liar,tax increaser & the simple minded Republicans still support him.
Trump is great for guns though. I hope many Rep/Cons children die at the hands of the "2nd Amendment Solution". Bet some patnetters think: "It couldn't happen to me!" Shootings happen everyday all over the country & Rep/Cons have no power to protect their loved ones.They will just let them die. Wear a MAGA hat,which makes brain dead Rep/Cons immune to bullets.

You Dumb Democrats! How can a woman,men too, who can't control her weight do anything to deal with the big problems of a state. Weight is a mental issue? Sit on one's ass & say to yourself,I'm losing weight. Now watch the Dems in the House suck Trumps dick for their love of mealy mouth bi-partisanship.
16   Hircus   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 7, 11:00am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Josh,

I think many people know that they can't personally go toe to toe in a political discussion/debate with someone whose even slightly more knowledgeable than them. But, that doesn't make them wrong. I think many people let the experts debate, and they watch the experts debate, and then choose a side. I'm not saying its ideal, but it is what it is, as people have varying interest and time commitments to politics.

I know there's many people who could debate with me, and they could take ANY stance/side of a topic, and then proceed to destroy me and make me look foolish in a discussion. But, that doesn't make their stance correct, not would it be likely to change my mind, as politics are so complicated and subjective such that a few quick logical arguments don't truly explore and decide things.

I think discussion is good, but you're probably viewed as being confrontational, or out to prove them wrong. Nobody likes when people come up to them and more or less say "I'm right and you're wrong", challenging their decisions & opinions, even if the persuasion is logical. It's a great way to upset people.
17   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2018 Nov 7, 11:14am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hircus says
Nobody likes when people come up to them and more or less say "I'm right and you're wrong", challenging their decisions & opinions, even if the persuasion is logical. It's a great way to upset people.


No, he's saying, "I am educated on the issues and you are not". Different thing. But yes, that upsets the uneducated.

This is why we need to bring back poll testing. Not the arbitrary ones the Jim Crow laws implemented, but standardized, simple 'mutliple-guess' ones with like 10 questions that you have to get 6 of them right or something.

And poll testing is still constitutional. It was poll taxes that were made unconstitutional.
18   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2018 Nov 7, 11:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
Republicans voted for Trump knowing the issues.
5 time draft dodger
Multiple adulterer
Sexual abuser/harasser
"Art of the Deal" Casino bankrupter


Yes they did. Thank you for proving that Republicans know that which they are voting about, as opposed to Dems who just vote for virtue signalling rights in order to 'fit in'.
20   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2018 Nov 7, 11:34am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Try offering any valid criticism of Republicans, and automatically they revert to aping about how you’re a damn liberla


Nope. I just stated a fact and not only did you not address it, you changed the subject completely.
21   MAGA   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 7, 12:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This chick has been eating too much KFC.


22   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 7, 12:17pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Hircus says

I know there's many people who could debate with me, and they could take ANY stance/side of a topic, and then proceed to destroy me and make me look foolish in a discussion.


Agree. I think this goes for pretty much anyone though.

Hircus says
I think discussion is good, but you're probably viewed as being confrontational, or out to prove them wrong. Nobody likes when people come up to them and more or less say "I'm right and you're wrong", challenging their decisions & opinions, even if the persuasion is logical. It's a great way to upset people.


Except I wasn't being confrontational. I didn't even take sides. I told her I disliked both candidates (when the election headlines came across our television screen at work) and gave a 2 second summary of why I disliked BOTH of them.

She said she liked Abrams.

All I did was ask why she liked Abrams. Asking someone why they support a candidate should not be offensive, although the left often interprets it that way.

A simple answer of "I don't know where they stand, but I like the candidate because of this" would suffice. But to get all pissed off about it is stupid.

If you're voting for someone, at least know a little bit of what they stand for - OR - why you are voting against the other party.

Several months ago, she said that Trump is a racist. I asked her why she thought that. Same thing. No proof, just verbal sewage and bits of MSM talking points and rambles about being mean and immigration.

Because of my experience with her and several other co-workers, I have come to the conclusion that the left is unable to think for themselves and simple regurgitates news headlines. The #NPC movement describes the large majority of leftists I've run into perfectly.
23   joshuatrio   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 7, 12:25pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MegaForce says

HEYYOU says
Republicans voted for Trump knowing the issues.
5 time draft dodger
Multiple adulterer
Sexual abuser/harasser
"Art of the Deal" Casino bankrupter


Yes they did. Thank you for proving that Republicans know that which they are voting about, as opposed to Dems who just vote for virtue signalling rights in order to 'fit in'.


LOL, I think immigration, trade deals and Obamacare were the major ones for most Americans.

We'll see how immigration works out, but he has a pretty solid list of accomplishments already.
24   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2018 Nov 7, 12:27pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

joshuatrio says
Several months ago, she said that Trump is a racist. I asked her why she thought that. Same thing. No proof, just verbal sewage and bits of MSM talking points and rambles about being mean and immigration.


You're dealing with an NPC.

"What do you think of Abrams?"
"I took an arrow in the knee."
"Why is Trump a racist?"
"I hear there are Jabberwockies in the Forest of Doom, Champion. Maybe you should fast travel there?"
25   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 7, 1:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
You're dealing with an NPC.

"What do you think of Abrams?"
"I took an arrow in the knee."
"Why is Trump a racist?"
"I hear there are Jabberwockies in the Forest of Doom, Champion. Maybe you should fast travel there?"


lol
26   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 7, 1:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
If you can't be bothered to remember the name of the person you wish to vote for, than you're ass is out. Write in your own name, or your neighbors. No free advertising on the ballots for the Two Political Parties

GOVERNER : ________________

U.S Senate: __________________

U.S House :____________________

Local power trip fuckos: ___________


I'd actually be on board with this. But could be difficult for a few candidate, for example IL-D8 winner Raja Krishnamoorthi. Tallying votes also would be tough as even most Americans probably couldn't even write in Paul Ryan correctly if they had to. If they spell it wrong does it still count?

But if you can come in with a cheat sheet, then that might be better. But then the parties would just mail out their own cheat sheets for people to bring to the polls and they'd vote straight party lines anyway.
27   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 7, 1:59pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Funny. I just want people to prove they are actually citizens and carry an ID to vote. But somehow that’s racist and a spelling test is much more feasible somehow.
28   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 7, 2:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Funny. I just want people to prove they are actually citizens and carry an ID to vote. But somehow that’s racist and a spelling test is much more feasible somehow.


I'm cool with ID's all day. I literally have 4 form of government approved ID to identify myself. Not hard to get.

I like the write in idea because you have to actually know who the fuck you're voting for. I'd guess at least 6 out of 10 times it's a straight party line vote and the people don't really even know what they're voting for.

Not everyone of course, but I'm guessing most don't even know the positions of their state representative. Who will likely have more impact on them then versus the federal government. I know my state reps and governor are probably going to raise my state income taxes to the tune of 50-75% higher after a recent 30% increase. I have a whole hell of a lot more influence over those types of elections versus the federal level. Problem here in IL is the ballots and straight affiliation voting for one party or the other. With zero knowledge of the actual candidates.

It's like going to a restaurant and you can choose a hamburger or a cheeseburger. There are other ingredients on the burger, but the menu is only telling you if it has cheese or not. The other ingredients are policy stances and they're not listed on the menu. That's how our current ballots function.
29   OccasionalCortex   ignore (3)   2018 Nov 7, 7:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
that doesn't make sense


Yes. "you just made that up" makes perfect sense. What part did you not understand about it?

You just keep trolling. Point blank.
31   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 8, 12:46pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
I didn't make this up!
Republicans voted for Trump knowing the issues.
5 time draft dodger
Multiple adulterer
Sexual abuser/harasser
"Art of the Deal" Casino bankrupter


You did. But let me summarize:
- rich and successful
- became president (highest office)
- great kids
- beautiful wife
- fucked a porn star (if true = awesome)
- tough dude

He literally is what every man in America wants to be. Somehow left fails to understand basics.
32   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 8, 1:40pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump for the longest time was the popular culture icon of wealth and what people strive to be (I still do honestly).

He only became a "racist" when he decided to not run as a Democrat, and you know how Democrats treat people who decide to leave the plantation.

33   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 8, 1:54pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Trump for the longest time was the popular culture icon of wealth and what people strive to be (I still do honestly).

He only became a "racist" when he decided to not run as a Democrat, and you know how Democrats treat people who decide to leave the plantation.


Yeah I mentioned this many times a while ago. He was the darling of mainstream TV and actually helped blacks and Jews already way back then. Never a racist, just money motivated which was - and maybe still is - the essence of the US. A simple party switch and targeting the various threats to the success of capitalism looming within the left and suddenly he's literally hitler. Can't make this shit up.
34   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2018 Nov 8, 3:11pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yep, Trump only became a racist, sexist Nazi when he descended the stairwell a few summers ago.

How is that Summer person doing in California, btw?
38   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 16, 3:12pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

She probably got hungry.
39   HEYYOU   ignore (26)   2018 Nov 16, 6:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MegaForce says
Yes they did. Thank you for proving that Republicans know that which they are voting about, as opposed to Dems who just vote for virtue signalling rights in order to 'fit in'.


Oh NO! You didn't go there!
No matter how Dumb,Democrats are,it doesn't seem to make Republicans any less Stupid.
If someone grabs a female Rep/Cons pussy it's OK?

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