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2018 Nov 10, 4:19pm   1,197 views  11 comments

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When was the last time a selective harvest was done, or a large controlled burning?

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1   Patrick   2018 Nov 10, 5:05pm  

This epic fire does make me think that more logging might be a good thing. The lumber was all lost to us anyway, better to cut down some of it and reduce the fire danger.

You can see lots of checkerboard logging in satellite photos:



Seems like a reasonable way to do things. Wildlife has a way to get out, and the cut areas become firebreaks.
2   HeadSet   2018 Nov 10, 5:14pm  

Fires have been part of the ecology in that area long enough for plants to evolve fire strategies, such as cone that only release seeds during the heat of a fire. To prevent major fire outbreaks, controlled fire and logging should be used.

If people want to live in such an area, they need to follow some rules. Houses made to be fireproof (poured structures with metal roof shingles - no exterior wood or vinyl, ) and fire breaks required at the property perimeter (which would mean a minimum lot size).
3   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Nov 10, 7:38pm  

I can't tell you what CA spends it's money on. All I know is that all our taxes go into a giant bottomless pit, because every year all new taxes that were supposed to solve the problem seem to not be enough and they are asking for more.
4   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 10, 8:40pm  

HeadSet says
Fires have been part of the ecology in that area long enough for plants to evolve fire strategies, such as cone that only release seeds during the heat of a fire. To prevent major fire outbreaks, controlled fire and logging should be used.

This.

Archaeology very well documents the eternal prevalence of forest fires in California, back when the population was a hundreth of what it is today with stone age technology.

FortWayneIndiana says
I can't tell you what CA spends it's money on. All I know is that all our taxes go into a giant bottomless pit, because every year all new taxes that were supposed to solve the problem seem to not be enough and they are asking for more.



Greeny Greeny Choo Choo
5   RC2006   2018 Nov 10, 8:52pm  

Not long ago fires burned freely from the mountains all the way to the ocean. Logging isn't going to help some areas need to burn.
6   lostand confused   2018 Nov 10, 11:15pm  

RC2006 says
Not long ago fires burned freely from the mountains all the way to the ocean. Logging isn't going to help some areas need to burn.


Yeah I lived right next to Thousand Oaks, CA -beautiful, beautiful area. It is mostly chapparal/shrub country or grass. Trees are there, but not groves, just here and there. It is what it is, santa ana winds, dry heat-not much you can do.

I think there was an explorer a couple of centuries who came by ship and wrote about the fires on the hills of Malibu . Most locals know the drill. I know of someone who lost his home to a fire -twice -LOL!!! he built it again twice.
Beautiful country, hills, ocean, sunny weather-sigh if only CA had some sane policies. Looks like the locusts have now swarmed into AZ and almost electing the pink tutu wearing commie who thinks it is ok for americans to join the Taliban and kill our troops-sigh.


Less and less places to go to where the liberal swarms don't overcome you. Can't they just stay in CA and NY -I know a lot of IL fools who go there and take their voting habits with them. If you like the results of voting liberal-stay in your liberal paradise.
7   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Nov 10, 11:45pm  

FortWayneIndiana says
I can't tell you what CA spends it's money on. All I know is that all our taxes go into a giant bottomless pit, because every year all new taxes that were supposed to solve the problem seem to not be enough and they are asking for more.


Not entirely positive, but I think Police and Firefighter pensions are beyond out of control, along with the jails.

Cops and firefighters seem to be REALLY into milking the system for all its worth. Not that they arent worth paying well...neither is an easy job...but when dudes are retiring after 30 years with $125k+ pensions, and in the case of the guys that climb high, $200K + pensions, something is grossly wrong.

One change I'd like to see is different pay for guys that stay in patrol/detective/fire fighting positions vs the ones that move to an administrative positions. Its really rather irresponsible of govt agencies to let someone sit at a desk and make the same amount of pay they used to get for being on the streets. The pensions should also convert more to what the average Calpers pensioner gets instead of that fat salary they got for being an active duty cop or fireman.
8   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Nov 10, 11:45pm  

Crap, just realized my post is chock full of gender microaggressions. Dammit.
9   Ceffer   2018 Nov 11, 1:37am  

CovfefeButDeadly says
Crap, just realized my post is chock full of gender microaggressions. Dammit.


Too late. You are now in the official liberal microaggression register as a public offender AND CAN NEVER BE FORGIVEN. The shame! You owe reparations and damages to millions of people, and you need to lose your livelihood with much publicized disgrace.
10   lostand confused   2018 Nov 11, 4:02am  

Ceffer says
CovfefeButDeadly says
Crap, just realized my post is chock full of gender microaggressions. Dammit.


Too late. You are now in the official liberal microaggression register as a public offender AND CAN NEVER BE FORGIVEN. The shame! You owe reparations and damages to millions of people, and you need to lose your livelihood with much publicized disgrace.


Yup now that they won the house they will be proposing China style social credits. In China if you occur too many "discredits" you cannot ride trains etc.
11   Shaman   2018 Nov 11, 5:46am  

lostand confused says

Yup now that they won the house they will be proposing China style social credits


Really? That’s a thing?
I thought that was just an episode of Black Mirror?!

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