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So it's either the fuckers in PG&E management decided that clearing trees around power lines is unnecessary, or it's these union fucks reported the job done but never lifted a fucking finger. Either way that fucking company has jumped the shark and needs to be fucking decimated.
DASKAA saysSo it's either the fuckers in PG&E management decided that clearing trees around power lines is unnecessary, or it's these union fucks reported the job done but never lifted a fucking finger. Either way that fucking company has jumped the shark and needs to be fucking decimated. Check out their recent stock slide. Ticker symbol PCG
shutting down power lines during high winds
Part of the reason the fires get this big in the first place is because all of the small ones are put out for decades leading up to the big one.
Man I am sick of people who know fuck-all about California taking up this swaggering, "The libs don't know how to manage forests let's take them over!" bandwagon. So many laughable ideas being thrown out, and strongly held positions with literally no basis in reality.What ACTIONABLE PLAN do critics have?Controlled burns? What is that? We have a year round fire season, mister lives where it rains 55+ inches a year. Also, the fire in Ventura burned through an area that was burnt to a moonscape less than 10 years ago.Firebreaks? I don't think you understand Santa Ana wind conditions. The fire jumped a 10 lane paved freeway in the aforementioned recent burn area. What kind of fire breaks are you proposing? How many, across whose property, and to what effect?Increase logging to remove dead trees? AHA! Here we get to the CRUX of the issue. This is laying the groundwork for Republicans to open forest land to increased logging, THAT'S ALL! This is...
I can't speak for PG&E because I live in Edison territory.Another thing I didn't get to in the above post. ALL of these people declaring the electrical utility at fault and in need of takeover, when there is NO information about the start of these specific fires. The Ventura fire happened in a recent burn zone, so ALL of the poles are less than a decade old and up to recent standards. I spend a lot of time in the mountains and I can see the poles are well maintained and brush cleared from around their bases. One recent smaller fire in the Malibu area was sparked by a power pole, after A CAR HIT IT. Another years ago started near Sylmar after a large bird spread its wings across two wires and fell to the ground in flames. Edison is reporting a trip event in the area where one of the fires started and everyone is assigning blame. However, a fire near power lines sends aloft ionized particles that are highly conductive and can CAUSE an arc between perfectly designed an...
I can't speak for PG&E because I live in Edison territory.... ... there is NO information about the start of these specific fires.
"The utility was responsible for several of last year’s wildfires that burned through Northern California’s wine country. In fact, Cal Fire has determined that of the 21 major fires last fall in Northern California, at least 17 were caused by power lines, poles and other equipment owned by Pacific Gas and Electric Company."
Some researchers said that logging in the burned area after a fire in 2008, which was intended to clear out fuels and make this part of Northern California safer, may have had the opposite result. The logging may have left fast-burning weeds and young trees in the fire’s path.“When it got to the logged area, it spread very rapidly and people just didn’t have much time to evacuate in Paradise, so this whole notion that logging — so-called hazardous fuels reduction — was going to save the town is a dangerous falsehood,” said Chad Hanson, a fire ecologist at the John Muir Project
Pretty nifty trick of the Oligarchs, getting large numbers of Americans pumped up about handing logging rights on public lands to private individuals
There are plenty of much more lucrative fields than "selective logging in the mountains".
Oligarchs are very happy to send whole logs to China then ship back finished lumber products.
I expect the Maibu residing Hollywood powers that be will relent and agree to that remake of the Green Berets starring Don, Jr., in order to get Trump to redirect the high energy weapon.
Has this affected homeowners insurance rates yet? Or can you even still buy that in CA?
Booger saysHas this affected homeowners insurance rates yet? Or can you even still buy that in CA?Mine is up for renewal soon. The offers I've received so far indicate no price hike. I'm not living in a forest, though.
PG&E cause Paradise Fire
Did anyone short PG&E?Anyone planning to buy now that it is in the 8$ range?
Not touching that pile of shit with a 10ft pole either way. Being their customer is more than fucking enough.
DASKAA saysNot touching that pile of shit with a 10ft pole either way. Being their customer is more than fucking enough.Correction, Being their customer is more than enough of a fucking....
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