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1   RWSGFY   2018 Nov 19, 12:45pm  

People died in Paradise area because they couldn't evacuate fast enough over roads clogged with traffic. Now somebody proposes to add even more people into the same infrastructure via "backyard shacks" in article starting with "In fire-ravaged California..."

It's too soon for jokes, methinks.
2   tovarichpeter   2018 Nov 19, 4:38pm  

Actually they died because PG&E sparked two fires.
3   Patrick   2018 Nov 19, 6:58pm  

Also, bad forest management.
4   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2018 Nov 19, 7:04pm  

Give land out, let people fucking build housing. Get government out

Simple, yet so hard...
5   RWSGFY   2018 Nov 19, 7:29pm  

tovarichpeter says
Actually they died because PG&E sparked two fires.


They would die the same if the fires were started by lightning. It's not like roads would be more passable then...
6   anonymous   2018 Nov 19, 9:57pm  

1. Lose Prop 13. Replace with something non-market-value-based that's fair.
2. Disallow all tax deductions for anything but a primary residence.
3. Double-tax (or disallow) foreign investment in US real estate.
7   Sunnyvale94087   2018 Nov 19, 11:00pm  

The amount of mega-apartments that have gone up in Sunnyvale (and I assume elsewhere) is insane. The problem is that people are willing to live in overcrowded conditions because this is where the high-tech jobs are. I wish large high-tech firms would pick up and move to a less crowded (and thus less costly) part of the country — and take me with them!
8   Hircus   2018 Nov 19, 11:48pm  

Sunnyvale94087 says
I wish large high-tech firms would pick up and move to a less crowded (and thus less costly) part of the country — and take me with them!

Austin TX is doing well. House prices have about doubled since 2011 or so, but still pretty affordable.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Tech-pipeline-to-Texas-Tax-money-employees-flow-6791524.php
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-cards/best-places-for-tech-jobs/
9   HeadSet   2018 Nov 20, 6:52am  

I wish large high-tech firms would pick up and move to a less crowded (and thus less costly) part of the country — and take me with them!

Serious question, what stops tech workers from telecommuting? Live in a rural mountain area and remote in. What on earth do you need to be physically present for?
10   krc   2018 Nov 20, 11:57am  

I think job concentration is actually what drives growth - the compounding of people and ideas in a single general geographic area. People rubbing shoulders, neighbors in the same general business, lot of people available so potential to pull new ideas for startups, cross technology discussion, etc... SF area is great for tech BECAUSE of the high density, capital, etc.... The question is how to do this and keep life enjoyable.
11   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2018 Nov 20, 12:33pm  

Somehow build more houses is a hard concept to grasp? Are liberals retarded or just posturing?
12   krc   2018 Nov 20, 1:04pm  

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/grow.12232
https://www.citylab.com/life/2017/06/wheres-the-real-next-silicon-valley/530352/

I guess the question is what is meant by a small city and town. Is that 20-50k or 1-1.5 mil?

And, people are leaving for "smaller" cities like Austin, Raleigh, LA (santa monica) already. I still question if they really will have the opportunities in tech available in the SF area. Of course, if we don't fix transit (I know folks who drive from modesto to bay area, 3hr daily commute), then we are in trouble anyway... and naturally there will be movement to other cities. But, right now, folks are fine paying high housing prices and./or living in condensed housing. IF the price bothered them - they would leave. Of course, it doesn't help with a ton of H1B willing to live in high density housing to save money so they can go back in 10 years and live like kings.
13   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Nov 20, 3:54pm  

Patrick says
Also, bad forest management.

...fancy landscaping.
14   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 20, 4:06pm  

Totally agree with taxing companies extra if they don't remote-ify jobs that can be remotely done.

Great for millions of American families, reduces road congestion and infrastructure costs, reduces the importation of fossil fuels, means huge amounts of disposable income from all the commuting expenses saved. Will also save thousands of lives and billions of dollars lost in car accidents.

I wouldn't want to be in commercial real estate at the time, though.

With keylogging, chat, and everything else, there's no reason not to.
15   Hircus   2018 Nov 20, 5:57pm  

I think taxing companies extra for not allowing/encouraging remote work is overstepping bounds. Let the free market decide how to best achieve efficiency. Govt can help businesses by minimizing regulations imposed upon them, only keeping the very most important, necessary, and valuable regulations.

While I tend to like the idea of making people/companies pay proportionately for what they use/cost, I think it would be a huge mess trying to decide which jobs in which companies should be remoted. Every company is different, and so are the teams inside each company.
16   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Nov 20, 6:00pm  

Hircus says
I think taxing companies extra for not allowing/encouraging remote work is overstepping bounds. Let the free market decide how to best achieve efficiency. Govt can help businesses by minimizing regulations imposed upon them, only keeping the very most important, necessary, and valuable regulations.


It's a tax to lower government expenditure and rationalize the economy. If companies insist on being inefficient and weighing down the infrastructure net, they should pay more in tax.

There would be a calculation of how many jobs are remote-friendly, and if a company greatly exceeds the number, they pay the extra tax. That way they can decide if they need certain individuals physically present over others.

It's shouldn't be a godawful high tax but should definitely incentivize work-at-home. It's also great for reducing crime and increasing civic society. Much easier to keep an eye on the 'hood from your street-facing window than from 45 minutes away downtown. Health, Family, Trade Deficit, etc. all benefit "yugely". So overwhelming there is no reason to hesitate.

We can actually start with the reverse, and incentivize a tax break for creating remote jobs.

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