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I was told that in the US a political party can obtain enough power to override the Constitution.

By Herdingcats following x   2018 Dec 1, 7:12am 320 views   21 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


I was told this by someone who said they know how laws work. I've never heard this before. Can anyone explain how a political party can get enough power to override the Constitution? Or was I just being trolled?
1   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (35)   2018 Dec 1, 8:13am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump is god.

Until Mueller rips of his leg and beats him to death with the wet end.
2   WineHorror1   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 1, 11:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, this is true. In fact, a democracy could even make it possible to bring back slavery.

So, democracy is the reason.
3   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 1, 1:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
Yes, this is true. In fact, a democracy could even make it possible to bring back slavery.

What a relief. I was beginning to lose faith in our system.
4   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (35)   2018 Dec 1, 1:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

We're only one phone call from MBS and a cut and paste from the new AG for sharia to be the law of the land.

MAGA!
5   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 1, 2:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

True, but that political party would need to get a two thirds senate majority and 38 of the states governments. Then they could amend the Constitution all they wished.
6   rocketjoe79   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 1, 2:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Missouri Compromise was an example of political balancing. Missouri wanted to become a state, but both new senators would have voted for southern interests. So Maine agrees to split off part of the state as the new state of Massachusetts. Voila, two new northern senators to balance the scales.

Good luck getting any such compromise happening these days. This is why Puerto Rico will never be granted statehood.
7   HEYYOU   ignore (21)   2018 Dec 1, 3:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Independents should ignore the Constitution & make the Dems & Reps pay.
Most of these "I" assholes are a bunch of bleeding hearts that will do nothing while the Ds & Rs ram their
"Big Red White & Blue dicks" up Independents' asses.
Republicans are stupid.
Democrats are dumb.
Where does that leave Independents? With bloody assholes.
8   WineHorror1   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 1, 7:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
True, but that political party would need to get a two thirds senate majority and 38 of the states governments. Then they could amend the Constitution all they wished.

Please, that is so quaint. Politicians have been ignoring the constitution for decades now. The only thing that keeps it from total dissolution is a competing party. 😖😖
9   DASKAA   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 1, 7:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

They already do it in California. Here, right from the horse's mouth:

10   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 1, 7:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WineHorror1 says
Please, that is so quaint. Politicians have been ignoring the constitution for decades now


Sadly you are correct.
11   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 1, 7:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
True, but that political party would need to get a two thirds senate majority and 38 of the states governments. Then they could amend the Constitution all they wished.


Yup, you can amend the constitution all you want if you get those magic numbers.

No different than in CA where Californians can amend the constitution when voters vote 51%-at least not major ones like splitting the state in 4.

Each state has its own rules-as does the country. In the stupid state of IL, only legislators can proporse a constitutional amendment and only then it goes to the voters.
12   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 1, 7:43pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Like they say, we haven't been in a Constitutional Republic since before WWII, we have been in a post-Constitutional Oligarchy.
13   Herdingcats   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 2, 7:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
True, but that political party would need to get a two thirds senate majority and 38 of the states governments. Then they could amend the Constitution all they wished.


This is exactly what I thought he might have been getting at but apparently this person is more into trolling than debating.

Sad.
14   Herdingcats   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 2, 7:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
Like they say, we haven't been in a Constitutional Republic since before WWII, we have been in a post-Constitutional Oligarchy.


Pretty much the start of the military-industrial congressional complex.
15   Herdingcats   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 2, 7:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says
Yup, you can amend the constitution


Actually the term used was override which is why I asked for the comment to be explained. This is the internet, how do I know what this guy was talking about if he doesn't use the proper terminology?
16   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 2, 7:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You've got to have enough constituency behind you. It's not Kosher you can get away with it. And if you really do bad, the next President can demand he be publicly hanged for it.

There is no script for what Politicians do, there's only our constitution. That they interpret, distort, or try to change.

But YES, politicians can do what ever WE let THEM.
17   rocketjoe79   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 8:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Good thing we don’t live in a democracy!
Mansplaining: Our form of government is a federal republic with representative democracy. That’s a big difference. True democracy would be Mob Rule. This is the technical reason why Mrs. Clinton didn’t get elected.

Our forefathers thought long and hard and created the worlds’ longest running “democracy” through careful crafting of the system. Changing the system is tough, but not impossible, if there is political will. Current detractors would like to make urban areas more influential, but I like how we have an urban/rural split. So many states have a fairly low pop density, and would be overrun with silly policies and rules from city dwellers. We have a strong libertarian streak in the USA, supported by the constitution.
18   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 3, 9:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Constitution!? Wasn't that vacated the first day LBJ took the Presidency when he wiped his ass with it and flushed it down the Toilet One.
19   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 10:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
Actually the term used was override


Then no, there’s no legal way to override the Constitution.
There’s plenty of extralegal ways including implementing policy you know goes against the Constitution and just doing what you want until the judicial system can make you change.
The Democrats are experts at this, especially when it come to gun control.

The thing is, it’s also illegal to drive on the sidewalk, mowing down people left and right, and the person who does this will (probably)eventually wind up in jail.
It won’t be a lot of comfort to the people who got run over though.

There’s the legal world and then there’s the real world. There’s not much overlap.
20   HEYYOU   ignore (21)   2018 Dec 3, 11:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Don't criticize Dems & Reps they are just retards that are power hungry & don't think there are consequences.
Can't wait until they fubar their "set of living arrangements".
21   Herdingcats   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 5, 6:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rocketjoe79 says
Good thing we don’t live in a democracy!


Yup




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