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Bruce Springsteen believes Trump will win a second term in the White House

By Patrick following x   2018 Dec 2, 7:40pm 480 views   23 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6451983/Bruce-Springsteen-believes-Trump-win-second-term-White-House.html

Bruce Springsteen believes that President Donald Trump will win a second term in the White House.

'I don't see anyone out there at the moment... the man who can beat Trump, or the woman who can beat Trump,' the rocker told The Sunday Times Magazine.

Springsteen, who is a long-standing Democrat himself, said the political party doesn't 'have an obvious, effective presidential candidate' who can 'speak the same language' as Trump.

The iconic Born to Run singer went on to talk about the 'life-changing, upsetting occurrences' that have caused division in the United States.
During his interview, Springsteen, who in the past campaigned for former president Barack Obama and presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton, said that there are a lot of reasons people 'became Trump voters'.

One example he gave was the 'severe blow to working people in the 1970s and 1980s as all the steel mills shut down'.

He then said the explosion of technology really affected people who may have found themselves in a country that they didn't 'feel part of' or they felt they were 'being dismissed'.
1   APHAman   ignore (8)   2018 Dec 2, 8:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If Bruce Springsteen says it, and it agrees with what i want to believe, IT MUST! BE! TRUE!
2   BayArea   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 2, 8:10pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I couldn’t give a shit less when it comes to what Bruce Springsteen thinks about politics.

But the most likely outcomes is that Donald wins again.
3   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 2, 8:12pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Bruce Springsteen believes Trump will win a second term in the White House


I know Trump will win again. He is the only President who keeps his promises, and the only President who is achieving amazing success.
4   marcus   ignore (6)   2018 Dec 2, 8:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
He is the only President who keeps his promises, and the only President who is achieving amazing success.


That's a lot to get out of nothing more than the fact that you voted for him.
5   Strategist   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 2, 8:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Strategist says
He is the only President who keeps his promises, and the only President who is achieving amazing success.


That's a lot to get out of nothing more than the fact that you voted for him.


We know you won't vote for him just because you are a die hard democrat. Success does not matter, issues don't matter, nothing matters except political parties.
6   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (35)   2018 Dec 2, 8:49pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Springsteen has been seeing a shrink for 40 years.

He's twisted.

You might as well quote Jeffrey Dahmer as an authority.
7   BayArea   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 2, 9:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
You might as well quote Jeffrey Dahmer as an authority.


Hehehehe
8   Rin   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 2, 10:05pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Here are an inconvenient truth about Springsteen ... he was never a blue collar worker himself. In effect, he was 'slumming' with them, throughout his musical career.

https://nypost.com/2017/04/29/springsteen-hasnt-done-a-days-work-since-his-teens/

And then, why was he so much a fan of ppl like Clinton, who basically told the rust belt workers to go back to college and get a degree in computer science, when there are so many of them, being displaced by both, H1-B workers, outsourcing, and the preference for MIT/Carnegie-Mellon-ers, instead of 2nd career types?

The fact is that Trump, despite being a snake oil RE type, told ppl that it wasn't their lack of STEM education (as if all PhD/postdocs have full time jobs in R&D) ... it was the system, which was stacked against them.
9   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 2, 10:46pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
The fact is that Trump, despite being a snake oil RE type, told ppl that it wasn't their lack of STEM education (as if all PhD/postdocs have full time jobs in R&D) ... it was the system, which was stacked against them.


I agree. Good way to put it.
10   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 2, 11:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
why was he so much a fan of ppl like Clinton, who basically told the rust belt workers to go back to college and get a degree in computer science, when there are so many of them, being displaced by both, H1-B workers, outsourcing, and the preference for MIT/Carnegie-Mellon-ers, instead of 2nd career types?


Republicans were generally worse, e.g. Romnesia.

Rin says
he was never a blue collar worker


Your link says "since his teens." Donald Trump hasn't done blue collar work since that age either, but he grew up doing odd jobs on his dad's construction sites and tagging along with maintenance workers, so he speaks the language. When Donald was little, his dad would take the family to job sites on Sundays after church, to pick up loose nails and whatever could be salvaged but might otherwise get thrown away.

Bruce Springsteen and Donald Trump have a deep work ethic.

I wish the Democrats had a candidate like Bruce Springsteen. Try reading the lyrics of "Born in the USA" without the sound. He used to play concerts for hours, really physical work, saying that if the audience could stand it then so could he.
11   Eric Holder   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 2, 11:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Bruce is a fucking Nazi for saying that!
12   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 3, 6:40am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bruce Springsteen and Donald Trump have a deep work ethic.

Anyone who achieves that level of success have a deep work ethic. This includes any high level political candidate that you have heard of. The problem is not a lack of hard work with Democrat candidates, it is the ideas they bring like $15/hr wages while pushing unfettered illegal immigration, and other policy attacks on the working people.
13   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (4)   2018 Dec 3, 8:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
Bruce Springsteen and Donald Trump have a deep work ethic.

Anyone who achieves that level of success have a deep work ethic. This includes any high level political candidate that you have heard of. The problem is not a lack of hard work with Democrat candidates, it is the ideas they bring like $15/hr wages while pushing unfettered illegal immigration, and other policy attacks on the working people.


Very true. I don’t like Springsteen’s politics, but no one can say that the man doesn’t bust his ass. What surprises me is that he doesn’t expect others to do the same.



Speaking of which, this is from Spain. American audiences, esp those comprised mostly of boomers, are a bunch of boring fat loads. I’d love to have been at the concert in this video. That looks like a great time!

Ironically, while Springsteen’s lazy American audiences pay premium bucks to be boring, I’ve found that the exact crowds he speaks to in his music now attends country and kid rock concerts where they are loud and having a good time. The first time I saw kid rock headlining was in 2008 at a 6500 seat place. I swear the whole building was shaking. I find it very odd that a guy who built himself on songs aimed at blue collar democrats, is now playing to rich fat boomfucks while guys writing music now aimed at blue collar Republicans have the best audiences in the country.
14   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 3, 9:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How come Rolling Stone didn't scoop this oracular vision of America?
15   rdm   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 11:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
'I don't see anyone out there at the moment... the man who can beat Trump, or the woman who can beat Trump


When people make that sort of statement it often means they want to run themselves...

But that aside I disagree with the basic premise. Trump will be pretty easy to beat, baring a serious third party effort (which could easily happen). I believe economy is starting to fizzle and in two years it will likely be much worse and Trump will loose Penn, Mich. and Wisc. states he barely won, and probably much more.
16   d6rB   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 3, 11:15am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
Trump will be pretty easy to beat, baring a serious third party effort

Do not underestimate the stupidity of D's. They will find the only person in Universe who can lose election to Trump to run against Trump, just like last time with Hillary.
17   HEYYOU   ignore (23)   2018 Dec 3, 11:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

d6rB says
Do not underestimate the stupidity of D's.


Just a damn minute! Republicans are stupid! Democrats are snail pace dumb!
Independents rule!
18   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 3, 11:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

What surprises me is that he doesn’t expect others to do the same.

Do not confuse shtick with reality. Bruce's phony blue collar workman image is just that, a theme that keeps his audience happy and inoculates him from the greedy rich guy. If he really was the working man's hero, he would draw for himself a upper working class salary and donate the rest to causes like subsidizing factories in depressed areas, renovating the inner city, and so on. Instead Bruce would rather sleep on a sewer grate every now and them and claim that experience helps him relate, then go back to living like a Sultan.
19   Rin   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 3, 12:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
Try reading the lyrics of "Born in the USA" without the sound. He used to play concerts for hours, really physical work, saying that if the audience could stand it then so could he.


I know the song 'Born in the USA' but guess what, Bruce wasn't a part of the old steel working gang from movies like "The Deer Hunter", returning from the war. Since that's sort of his motif in that track.

In fact, even Metallica, when they wrote the most grizzly war song 'One', was inspired by the anti-war film, "Johnnie's Got His Gun", with no first hand experience of war themselves.



And the above is a far more disturbing tale than anything Springsteen wrote but it wasn't Metallica's story, it was someone else's. Metallica just put it in a song and video.

And playing out on the road is a musician's lifestyle. If anything, since Boston is a college town, there are tons of those types of kids, who would gladly toss their graduating jobs at State Street or Fidelity Investments, to be like Springsteen on the road. Instead, with no success outside of playing for the crowds at schools like Boston Univ, Emerson, or Northeastern Univ, they had to become like the rest of us wage slaves in the corporate world.

HeadSet says
If he really was the working man's hero, he would draw for himself a upper working class salary and donate the rest to causes like subsidizing factories in depressed areas, renovating the inner city, and so on. Instead Bruce would rather sleep on a sewer grate every now and them and claim that experience helps him relate, then go back to living like a Sultan.


Yes, exactly!

It's like going outside in a January day in Boston, without all the winter gear, and coming back inside after a hour, and then telling everyone that one knows how brutal it is, working in Purdue Bay Alaska.
20   Rin   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 3, 12:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
Republicans were generally worse, e.g. Romnesia.


Remember, Romney was a robber baron but he never bragged about Bain Capital during the debates because he knew that his firm's main goal was corporate raiding. That's how republicans operate, they hide and obfuscate when confront.

Democrats, however, go on about education as if ppl can't get on-the-work training.

Trump just trash talked the above, until ppl started to like him.
21   Rin   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 3, 1:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

From other Springsteen thread ...

http://patrick.net/post/1320638/2018-12-03-bruce-springsteen-interview-on-trump-and-politics

Rin says
jazz_music says
Unconfirmed estimates put Springsteen’s wealth at $200m or more. He admits in his autobiography: “I live high on the hog, yacht around the Mediterranean and private-plane myself between dental appointments.”


Ok, this is where I draw that line!

I was one of the starting dozen at a hedge fund and I'm nowhere near $200M. The only ppl who're in that northern category are the three principal partners, the first top trader, and the one who'd succeeded him.

Aside from that, we're all low level millionaires but unlike the so-called Boss, we actually act like white collar types. There's no hypocrisy there!
22   rdm   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 5:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
I was one of the starting dozen at a hedge fund and I'm nowhere near $200M


Yea but Springsteen created something that has given and continues to give pleasure to millions of people, music. Hedgefund bros. not so much.
23   Rin   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 3, 6:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
Rin says
I was one of the starting dozen at a hedge fund and I'm nowhere near $200M


Yea but Springsteen created something that has given and continues to give pleasure to millions of people, music. Hedgefund bros. not so much.


No Hedgies claim to represent the common blue collar man, Springsteen, however, does.

Even Bob Seger, his contemporary, didn't play up his Motown roots, the way Springsteen did with his Jersey one.




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