« prev   random   next »

5
0

The end of meaningful life in America

By Patrick following x   2018 Dec 3, 5:46pm 339 views   17 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-ghost-of-christmas-present/

It’s not hard to see why US life expectancy is going down, driven by the two new leading causes of death: opiate drugs and suicide — the former often in the service of the latter. The citizens of this land have exchanged just about everything that makes life worth living for the paltry rewards of “bargain shopping” and happy motoring. But the worst sacrifice is the loss of any sense of community, of face-to-face human transactions with people you know, people who have duties and obligations to one another that can be successfully enacted and fulfilled. Instead, you get to do all your business with robots, even including the robots fronting for companies that seek to ruin you. “Your call is important to us,” says the telephone robot at the hospital billing office dunning you to fork over $7,000 for the three stitches Little Skippy got when his best friend flew the drone into his forehead. “Please hold for the next available representative.” Who wouldn’t want to shoot themselves?

Interestingly, it’s the people of France who are going apeshit at this moment in history and not the much more beaten-down Americans. For all the deformities of the EU, France still maintains a general quality-of-life so far above what is found in the US these days that we look like some left-behind evolutionary dead end here in this wilderness of strip-malls and muffler shops. They live in towns and cities that are designed to bring people together in public. They support small business in spite of the diktats of Brussels. They maintain an interest in doing things well for its own sake. The French are rioting these days not simply over the cost of diesel fuel but because they’ve had enough impingements on their traditional ways of life and seek to arrest the losses.

Americans, by contrast, seem to passively accept their new status as world-class losers. You can deprive them of whatever is meaningful, whatever makes life worth living, and sell them depressing simulacra to replace those things, and they never notice. Even the revolts ongoing in this land only seek to make relations between us worse, for instance the new super-Puritanism that wants to criminalize the most elementary mating ceremonies, like asking for date, or even paying attention to someone of the opposite sex. This is what the Democratic Party, formerly the party of the working people, has dedicated itself to all year. That’s your “Resistance.” They’ve managed to ruin one of the few consolations for being on this planet.
1   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 3, 5:52pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The world is in a cycle of Monkey see monkey do.

Egypt had an Arab Spring the whole Arab world had an Arab spring.
Occupy Wall Street, the whole world occupied their financial institutions.
Antifa smacks Traditional Citizens around in America in the guise of beating fascism.
Liberals around the world assaults the opposite view as Nationalist Fascists.

Yellow Jackets get fed up...

There's a correction coming a restoring of order and sensibilities. Scumbags and the Inept will have to take their place as Shit.
They will no longer rob those that worked hard of their rewards while they gobble up undeserved accolades based on lies and deceit.

Keep an eye out for Global Atonement.
2   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 3, 6:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The French Yellow Vests are sending a loud and clear message to the globalist elites where this is all heading.

3   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 3, 6:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says


They need this across from the street from NYSE.
5   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 3, 6:21pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
But the worst sacrifice is the loss of any sense of community, of face-to-face human transactions with people you know, people who have duties and obligations to one another that can be successfully enacted and fulfilled. Instead, you get to do all your business with robots, even including the robots fronting for companies that seek to ruin you. “


I think this guy intuition is absolutely correct.
My take is that the "meaning of life" can be summed up in 1 word: tribalism.

Tribalism is often seen as bad because it includes group think tendencies that are the source of 99% of human strife and 90% of bad ideas. This is why our current elites see tribalism as something to eradicate.

However tribalism also includes:
1- security: because security is found in groups of like minded individuals. Who trust the strangers around them?
2 - belonging: In the US the answer to the question "how many good friends you have" used to average around 5. Now the most frequent answer is 0. . This society is going through a loneliness crisis that is totally unprecedented.
3 - narrative: Groups have common outlook on life, they in sync with the world around them. Now this has been reduced to commercial slogans and extreme political views.
4 - purpose: This is elusive goal that pushes everyone forward in the same direction. In misguided tribes like religion, this

Note #1 and #2 are also 2 layers in Maslow's hierarchy of human needs. These are deep human requirements. When they go unfulfilled, people become depressed, paranoiac, society tears itself up.
Nothing is new under the Sun. Western society's are failing because they are not founded on basic humanity.
6   BayArea   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 6:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I thought it was cost of living and lack of affordable housing
7   Ironworker   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 6:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Two leading causes of death are hearth disease and cancer. Suicide is way down on 10th place.
8   HEYYOU   ignore (23)   2018 Dec 3, 7:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
They need this across from the street from NYSE.


This needs to be in the lobbies of the Republican & Democrat headquarters & in the living rooms of D & R voters.

'When people have lost everything & have nothing to lose,they lose it.'
Especially when they are pissed-off.
9   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 3, 7:17pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tribalism is cool, because you can slaughter other tribes and rape their women.
10   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 7:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

All these gender nonsense-they say 20% or more kids in CA think they are another gender? I am fine with gay people or gay marriage-who cares? But starting to think there are 32 genders or 108 genders-it takes a lot of reality to hold that fort down-that weird mental construct. America is being turned into a mental basket case where the mentally ill are mainstream. I think 25% of people are on some sort of drugs for mental issues?

Something is wrong-but like the dark force-the SJW keeps growing stronger and stronger.
11   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 3, 7:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's all Washington s fault
12   HEYYOU   ignore (23)   2018 Dec 3, 7:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
"how many good friends you have"


I can't count them all. The voices in my head are always talking over each other. ;-)

I never had a lot of good friends, I don't care to associate with ignorance & the lack of critical thinking.Gave me more time to prepare for my good final years. I've not done anything in the last few minutes,I need a break.
Now I don't associate with the past friends or family that are Right wingers.
Those assholes are on ignore.

I'm so long winded! Fuck all you Clever Apes!
14   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 3, 7:42pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The citizens of this land have exchanged just about everything that makes life worth living for the paltry rewards of “bargain shopping” and happy motoring

Qualsh, big time. I know my neighbors, and we chat outside when we meet and we have occasional progressive dinners, monthly Poker games, and house parties. I also have relatives, and spent last Thanksgiving with my sister and her clan in PA. Add work acquaintances, hobbies like cycling and kayaking, plus seeing other people you know attending the kid's High School plays, and so on. I cannot imagine anyone's happiness in general is affected just because the get a robot answering service when they call a business.

If you do not think "life is worth living" then make some friends, get a hobby, join a club and what really works for some - do some volunteer or charity work. Set and strive for goals. You are as happy as you decide to be.
15   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 8:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

When I think about it, I see that a lot in CA.

Liberals have been bashing churches for years, so that neighborhood connection is gone, many people dont go to churches anymore because of that. Where else are people going to get together and meet their neighbors? I think this is a big factor. There are others too, but this one is pretty huge.
16   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 9:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
Tribalism
That's another point made in the book The Suicide of the West, that tribalism is a human trait that can't be eradicated by social engineering and is important for societies.

Patrick says
France still maintains a general quality-of-life so far above what is found in the US these days that we look like some left-behind evolutionary dead end here in this wilderness of strip-malls and muffler shops. They live in towns and cities that are designed to bring people together in public. They support small business in spite of the diktats of Brussels.
I've read somewhere that it's common for the French to shut down for two hours at midday, they close their shops and businesses for a leisurely lunch time and relaxation. Such an idea would strike business owners in this country with apoplexy they're so parsimonious with their time.

I saw a small news item on this in the Dallas Morning News and it said there were more deaths last year than in any year since the 1910's if I remember it correctly. It also said it was the deaths from opioids and suicide that put the numbers over the top.
17   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 3, 9:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

At the end of 20th century, national governments of the world collapsed due to the failure of "unlimited democracies", civil unrest and social workers and child psychologists, a "pre-scientific pseudo-professional class", banning corporal punishment, resulting in crime reaching endemic proportions. - "Starship Troopers", Robert A Heinlein










The Housing Trap
You're being set up to spend your life paying off a debt you don't need to take on, for a house that costs far more than it should. The conspirators are all around you, smiling to lure you in, carefully choosing their words and watching your reactions as they push your buttons, anxiously waiting for the moment when you sign the papers that will trap you and guarantee their payoff. Don't be just another victim of the housing market. Use this book to defend your freedom and defeat their schemes. You can win the game, but first you have to learn how to play it.
115 pages, $12.50

Kindle version available


about   best comments   contact   one year ago   suggestions