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2   HEYYOU   ignore (21)   2018 Dec 5, 2:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is our real problem.
Republicans & Democrats are breeding.
3   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 5, 2:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

sky is falling!!!!
4   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 5, 8:06pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
This is our real problem.
Republicans & Democrats are breeding.


Actually, they are not. Instead, they are bringing in illegals to make up the "shortfall."
7   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 5, 10:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If you haven't noticed, more 'authorities and scientists' are coming out of the closet and declaring Global Warming a politically motivated canard of epic proportions, in a desperate effort to salvage the credibility of science.

Won't be long before it is just religious libby zealots holding on to their environmental false flag out of desperation and weeping, wailing sense of betrayal while everybody else backtracks and disavows.

Darn, it was such a great way to gain control resources and get free shit from industry.
8   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Dec 6, 6:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
climate change problem is starting to look too big to solve

So the science is not settled?

Co2 is going up up up! Temperature is going down.l predict that within 5 years the last couple of centuries temperature "gains" will be eliminated and the fraud will be clear.
9   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 6, 6:34am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Co2 is going up up up! Temperature is going down.l predict that within 5 years the last couple of centuries temperature "gains" will be eliminated and the fraud will be clear.

Yep, and this AGW crap has distracted from the real issues of pollution we need to deal with. "Belief" in AGW supersedes real action on pollution today.

Also, from an Ozy article:

Emissions of the greenhouse gas are expected to climb between 1.8 and 3.7 percent this year, according to a report by the Global Carbon Project released yesterday. The study blames much of the rise on coal use in China and India. Worldwide carbon generation had remained steady from 2014 to 2016 but increased last year. The news comes as delegates from nearly 200 nations meet in Poland to discuss implementing the Paris Agreement in hopes of cutting CO2 emissions 20 percent by 2030.

Not stated is how USA carbon emissions actually have decreased. Maybe all nations need to pull out of the Paris Agreement so their CO2 emissions can decrease as well.
10   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 7:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
LONG: AMMO! and YAM!s


More belt fed, more ammo! When they come, be prepared!
11   ThreeBays   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 7:26am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
If you haven't noticed, more 'authorities and scientists' are coming out of the closet and declaring Global Warming a politically motivated canard of epic proportions, in a desperate effort to salvage the credibility of science.

Won't be long before it is just religious libby zealots holding on to their environmental false flag out of desperation and weeping, wailing sense of betrayal while everybody else backtracks and disavows.

Darn, it was such a great way to gain control resources and get free shit from industry.


No we have not noticed that. What is happening is a growing amount of FUD paid for by big oil and supported by corrupt politicians.
12   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Dec 6, 7:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ThreeBays says
No we have not noticed that. What is happening is a growing amount of FUD paid for by big oil and supported by corrupt politicians.

So how much has the temperature and sea level risen?

Many in tha alarmist crowd think the temperature has gone up like 5 or 10 degrees CELCIUS!
13   d6rB   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 6, 7:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
LONG: AMMO! and YAM!s

And ice buckets to cool off.
14   d6rB   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 6, 7:54am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
If you haven't noticed, more 'authorities and scientists' are coming out of the closet and declaring Global Warming a politically motivated canard of epic proportions, in a desperate effort to salvage the credibility of science.

Won't be long before it is just religious libby zealots holding on to their environmental false flag out of desperation and weeping, wailing sense of betrayal while everybody else backtracks and disavows.

Darn, it was such a great way to gain control resources and get free shit from industry.

We can not exclude that "Global Warming" is both a politically motivated extortion mechanism to enrich select few more deserving Al Gores, and that it is true at the same time.
15   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 8:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
‘We are in trouble.’ Global carbon emissions reached a new record high in 2018."
If this is the case, we might as well adopt the attitude of Clayton Williams who lost the governor's race against Ann Richards after his comment about rape: "if it's inevitable, you might as well just relax and enjoy it".
16   ThreeBays   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 8:43am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
ThreeBays says
No we have not noticed that. What is happening is a growing amount of FUD paid for by big oil and supported by corrupt politicians.

So how much has the temperature and sea level risen?


About this much (0.8 degrees celsius above the 1951-1980 average).



And this shows the sea level change (3.1mm per year trend since 1993).

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level
18   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 6, 9:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So ThreeBays, any solutions other than arguing with heretics and voting Democrat?
19   ThreeBays   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 9:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
So ThreeBays, any solutions other than arguing with heretics and voting Democrat?


For change, conservatives can stand up and support the science too and tell their politicians they don't like being lied to and sold down the river. Politicization of this issue that affects us all is the tragedy.
20   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 10:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ThreeBays says
Did libruls melt the glaciers?


Who melted the glaciers in the Midwest that became the Great Lakes?

There was a mile of ice where I was born 10,000 years ago.
21   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 6, 10:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
Who melted the glaciers in the Midwest that became the Great Lakes?


Yeah, so let's get this straight:
- we know how much fossil fuel we are burning.
- we know that there is more CO2 in the atmosphere as a result.
- we know that CO2 is a greenhouse gas
- we measure radiation increase reflected by atmosphere
- we measure the increase in temperature
- we observe the glacier melting

But, no, the glacier melting is just some random natural variation - just like getting out of the ice age, which happened over 1000s of years.

Can't be CO2.
Inconceivable.
Librul conspiracy.
22   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 10:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yeah - but do we KNOW what caused the glaciers to melt 10,000 years ago when there wasn't all the man-made CO2 gas in the atmosphere?

Stick with me here, could it possibly be that maybe the Sun activity has a pretty substantial impact on our climate along with CO2?

Could it also be that major geological events like major volcanoes and asteroid impacts also have a substantial impact on our climate?

What is the ideal temperature for the planet? I personally prefer a warmer/greener planet than a colder/brown one.
23   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 6, 10:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Thank God for the melting glaciers.
It put more water in the ocean, that pressed more water and plankton snow deep into the Earth.
New lakes, rivers and land has been created. It also replenished some dried up Oil deposits in Texas that had been dry since the 50's but now have been back on line that last decade.


The only downside is increased Volcanoes and earthquakes.

No sea level rise you silly fools. Water goes down not up. Every 4 year old knows that.
24   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 6, 10:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
Stick with me here, could it possibly be that maybe the Sun activity has a pretty substantial impact on our climate along with CO2?


- The sun certainly affects the climate, but doesn't explain the current GW.
This is proved beyond doubts by a number of facts.

- And volcanoes? Yeah they can block the sun. No significant volcano explosion lately.

- And ideal temperature: that's a secondary question after we all agree that human created warming.
25   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 10:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, that is physics. And our planet is getting more of it to warm up, it's all coming from the sun, no other heat source available.

Good day liberals, go ban sun.
26   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 10:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
- The sun certainly affects the climate, but doesn't explain the current GW.


Well - the glacier melt 10,000 years ago proves without a doubt that climate can change (drastically) without major human activity or burning carbon.

Seems pretty important to me that we get a handle on why this occurred.

I don't deny the climate changes and that man-made activity burning carbon is having some impact. I just question how much of an impact and if "drastically transforming our societies to confront climate change" as some folks at the UN proposed last week is worth all of the pain it would entail.

Heraclitusstudent says
- And volcanoes? Yeah they can block the sun. No significant volcano explosion lately.


Perhaps a reason why we not seeing declining temperatures like climate scientists predicted back in the 1970's?

Heraclitusstudent says
- And ideal temperature: that's a secondary question after we all agree that human created warming.


This seems pretty important to me too. What if we determine that warmer temperatures provides greater benefits to humanity than all the forecasted negatives of a warmer planet?
27   HEYYOU   ignore (21)   2018 Dec 6, 10:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

3 downvotes & no ignores! WTF!
Fake science! All Fake science!

"Record-High Carbon Emissions Show 'We Are Speeding Towards the Precipice of Irrevocable Climate Chaos'

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/12/05/record-high-carbon-emissions-show-we-are-speeding-towards-precipice-irrevocable
28   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 6, 10:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ThreeBays says
HeadSet says
So ThreeBays, any solutions other than arguing with heretics and voting Democrat?


For change, conservatives can stand up and support the science too and tell their politicians they don't like being lied to and sold down the river. Politicization of this issue that affects us all is the tragedy.


You just proved my point. You proposed no solutions, just a another jab at deniers and an admission that AGW is political.

Solutions are something concrete like:
Curbing 1st world population growth to a level sustainable by renewables
Importing only from nations following similar envronmental laws as ours
Increased fuel taxes and tolls to decrease gasoline use

Trouble is, Democrats dislike the 1st two items and the fuel tax idea will be unpopular with voters
29   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 6, 11:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
This seems pretty important to me too.

Important or not, it's clearly a separate claim.
A = "AGW is happening".
B = "a warmer planet is a good thing"
One can believe
A and B
A but not B
not A but B
not A and not B.
You are trying to confuse the discussion with other emotional facts.
30   socal2   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 11:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You forgot C.

C = "AGW is happening and we are not certain if man-made CO2 is a bigger culprit then sun activity and other natural phenomenon"
31   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Dec 6, 11:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
Record-High Carbon Emissions Show 'We Are Speeding Towards the Precipice of Irrevocable Climate Chaos'

And yet the temperature (unadjusted) is lower than during the 1930's dust bowl.
Alarmists only have doom to offer, no viable solutions.
32   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Dec 6, 11:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
AGW is happening

Somebody missed the memo. It's climate change, not AGW, climate change. And we only have 80 years before we will all be dead!
33   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 6, 11:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
C = "AGW is happening and we are not certain if man-made CO2 is a bigger culprit then sun activity and other natural phenomenon"

We absolutely know CO2 is a bigger contributor than sun variations.
One obvious proof of it is that the polar regions are warming faster than the equator, and not the opposite.
This is incontrovertible and not worth discussing.
34   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 6, 11:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is incontrovertible and not worth discussing.

Then it is time to talk about solutions.
35   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Dec 6, 11:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
What is the ideal temperature for the planet? I personally prefer a warmer/greener planet than a colder/brown one.

Rain forest or frozen tundra?

I'll take the one where I don't have to compete with polar bears for seal blubber.
36   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 6, 1:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
Then it is time to talk about solutions.


Oh No not more mass chem trails to block out the sun!

Oh no, not more clear cutting of the Equatorial rainforest's around the Planet while the Greenie Weenies ignores it!

Oh no not unmanaged undergrowth so we get more wild fires to exploit as global warming.

Oh No not more abandoned beach erosion replenishment operations, and allow the tidal encroachment exaggerate sea rise. But those coastal communities were always on a technological contract with the environment. The South Florida beaches were replenished ever Decade. It hasn't happened in over 20 years off Fort Lauderdale beach where they now exploit the King tide that swamps much of low lying properties along the inter coastal.

They don't want solutions they want our money, this isn't about science or solutions. It's only about power and money. You raise enough money on a global scale like this. And get every country in the world to cower to your NGO polices. Eventually your NGO Org will become the unelected Ruler of the World.
The World Conquered on Bullshit.
37   Evan F.   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 6, 2:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
l predict that within 5 years the last couple of centuries temperature "gains" will be eliminated and the fraud will be clear.

Oh, thank God, I was hoping an established climate scientist such as yourself, who's done actual research, had a concrete conclusion about the next 5 years of global temperatures.

You are a climate scientist, right?
39   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 6, 2:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
Onvacation says
l predict that within 5 years the last couple of centuries temperature "gains" will be eliminated and the fraud will be clear.

Because prayer works.
CO2 will miraculously go away even as we produce more...
And conservation of energy is a sham.
40   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 6, 3:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

6 years ago: Forbes published this lad's argument on why the earth is in fact cooling...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/05/31/sorry-global-warming-alarmists-the-earth-is-cooling/#793fcae33de0
Since then...



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