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From the article:

In a bold new plan to tackle the Bay Area’s housing crisis, regional leaders are calling for a cap on rents, protection against arbitrary evictions and new employer and property taxes

In other words, "How to Exacerbate a Housing Shortage"

Make the world safe for squatters and transfer equities from owners to renters. More CommieFuck Central Planning.

tovarichpeter says

new employer and property taxes

This will alleviate the housing -vs- population imbalance, but I don't think the employers or the property owners are going to like being forced out of the Bay Area.

Ceffer says

Make the world safe for squatters and transfer equities from owners to renters. More CommieFuck Central Planning.

Tax investors out of poor areas so poor only compete with each other for housing.

Lol, the answer is simple: BUILD MORE HOUSING

Eliminating the zoning restrictions and the housing will get built.

Patrick says

Lol, the answer is simple: BUILD MORE HOUSING

That may be true, but then you are just exchanging one problem for another. Traffic/congestion/overcrowding, already very bad, will be made that much worse.

I think a better plan would be to somehow convince a bunch of big high-tech companies to relocate to some other place.

Ditching Prop 13 would help... retired people would have better incentive to move away from prime high-tech areas.

Patrick says

Lol, the answer is simple: BUILD MORE HOUSING

This.

And people who bitch about the congestion it theoretically would cause might want to bitch about trains in the desert first. If that money were spent beefing up urban transit that would help greatly. In other words: Do what other fucking states/cities/countries do that aren't run by leftist nincompoops. Actually, I'm probably insulting some decent leftists out there comparing them to the California variety.

Morons.

Sunnyvale94087 says

Traffic/congestion/overcrowding, already very bad, will be made that much worse.

If people commute from far away, the traffic gets very bad.
If you want to live in a village on the countryside, go for it.
If you want to live in the worldwide center of the tech industry... don't be surprised if it is a crowded super-active big city.

just_dregalicious says

Patrick says

Lol, the answer is simple: BUILD MORE HOUSING

This.

And people who bitch about the congestion it theoretically would cause might want to bitch about trains in the desert first. If that money were spent beefing up urban transit that would help greatly. In other words: Do what other fucking states/cities/countries do that aren't run by leftist nincompoops. Actually, I'm probably insulting some decent leftists out there comparing them to the California variety.

Morons.

So, the answer isn't merely to "build more housing." It's to "build more housing AND address a whole bunch of issues inherent with high-density living."

I complain about the so-called "high speed train to nowhere" from time to time. Actually, it looks more like it's going to be a "normal speed train to nowhere" because the newest construction plans are fairly standard train tracks.

SunnyvaleCA says

So, the answer isn't merely to "build more housing." It's to "build more housing AND address a whole bunch of issues inherent with high-density living."

Agreed. The entire bay area should be covered in sky scrapers right now. There should have been several new large reservoirs built over the past 40 years. Etc., etc.

SunnyvaleCA says

I complain about the so-called "high speed train to nowhere" from time to time.

Good. I wasn't referring to you in particular but I heard that crap a LOT (and still read) from NIMBY boomers during the 1/3rd of my life I spent in the bay area. Such self involved assholes. Even down here in SoCal I honk at them in crosswalks. Pisses off my dad when he visits from Texas. "Be nice to old people", he says. Yeah well he only lived here 5 years in the 70s.

Put a nail in a coffin of housing with that plan that takes from working people to pay to bureaucrats, unions, and little left overs to few poor souls for which some money is left.

More free shit for illegals will solve all these problems.

With "Prop 13" owners are out of touch with reality as they are not responsible for their fair share of taxes. In reality engage in more zoning restrictions and oppose new housing, that helps to bump up home prices.
Perhaps we should have "Prop 13" for income tax and sales tax too, this should back fire on the original "Prop 13" and free the neighborhood slaves.
Also tax all the employers in places where there are forces against the new building and give incentives to employers where new building are allowed, this way employers have skin in the game.

Blue says

Perhaps we should have "Prop 13" for income tax and sales tax too

Great idea!

Prop13 is half wrong and half right.

*Land* is the proper object of taxation.

The building should not be taxed at all.

But our "property" taxes mix the land and the building.

*Land* is the proper object of taxation.

The authorities even have a "tools tax." Yep, you are taxed on how many computers you use in your business. We have a long way to go before we change that mindset to tax only land.

Yet the idea of taxing the land because "you did not create it" could spread to taxing sunlight that hits a solar cell. After all, you did not create sunlight either. Ditto for the 30,000 or so gallons of air that is used when a car burns a gallon of gasoline. Maybe we could tax fat people for using more than their share of gravity.

HeadSet says

the idea of taxing the land because "you did not create it" could spread to taxing sunlight that hits a solar cell. After all, you did not create sunlight either

That's the same as the land value tax. If you capture solar power on your land, that should not be taxed extra if you're already paying the tax on the land.