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MUELLER IS TELLING US HE’S GOT TRUMP ON COLLUSION

By jazz_music following x   2018 Dec 29, 3:18pm 1,058 views   34 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


@onvacation: this is the offense that Trump should be convicted on IMO. Other offenses he bought off the parties that were pursuing him to the tune of millions of dollars. Yeah. Orange man bad. True. Piece of shit. Lock him up. Lock his kids up.

But wait! Michelle Obama bared her arms and Pat Robertson thinks that Michelle Obama bare arms are inappropriate for a first lady, and that Melania's nude pics are art.

THE END GAME

The special counsel is connecting the dots and it doesn’t paint a pretty picture for the president.

For nearly two years, since the U.S. intelligence community released its report on the Russian campaign to assist Donald Trump in the 2016 election, the American people have been seeking an answer as to whether the Trump campaign colluded with its Russian counterpart. In the endless speculation about the direction of the investigation, a common view was that maybe the investigation would never implicate President Trump or find any collusion.

But a flurry of recent activity this past week all points in the same direction: Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation will likely implicate the president, his campaign, and his close associates in aiding and abetting a Russian conspiracy against the United States to undermine the 2016 election.

First, Mueller has clearly identified collusion in the efforts of Trump aides and associates to contact WikiLeaks. In a draft plea agreement provided to conservative operative Jerome Corsi, Mueller details how Roger Stone, who the special counsel notes was in frequent contact with Donald Trump and senior campaign officials, directed Corsi to connect with WikiLeaks about the trove of stolen materials it received from Russia. Corsi subsequently communicated WikiLeaks’ release plan back to Stone, and the Trump campaign built its final message around the email release. That is collusion.

Second, we now know that Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen and former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn have provided evidence to Mueller related to collusion. In Cohen’s sentencing memo, Mueller said that Cohen provided his office with “useful information” on “Russia-related matters core to its investigation.” One of those central elements, according to the Justice Department: “any links and/or coordination” between the Kremlin and Trump campaign figures. Collusion, in other words.

In Flynn’s sentencing memo Mueller said that Flynn’s false statements to the FBI about his calls with the Russian ambassador during the transition were “material” to the investigation into “links or coordination between Russia and individuals associated with the Trump campaign.”

Third, Mueller has found evidence that Trump was compromised by a hostile foreign power during the election. In his plea deal, Cohen revealed that Trump had repeatedly lied to voters about the then-candidate’s financial ties to Russia. While Trump claimed during the campaign to have no business dealings with Russia, he was negotiating a wildly lucrative business deal not simply with Russian businessmen, but also involving with the Kremlin itself. Trump’s team even reportedly tried to bribe Russian President Vladimir Putin by offering him a $50 million penthouse.

Worse, Russia not only knew that Trump was lying, but when investigators first started looking into this deal, the Kremlin helped Trump cover up what really happened. That made Trump doubly compromised: first, because he was eager to get the financial payout and second because Russia had evidence he was lying to the American people—evidence they could have held over Trump by threatening to reveal at any time.

Since the president’s embarrassing performance at the Helsinki summit with Vladimir Putin—when he kowtowed to a foreign adversary rather than stand up for American interests—there has been open speculation about what leverage the Kremlin has over him. Now we know at least part of the picture, raising the specter of what other information Putin has, and how he is using it to influence Trump’s policy decisions.

Fourth, we know that Trump has engaged in an increasingly brazen attempt to cover up his actions: installing a political crony to head the Department of Justice by potentially illegal means in an effort to shut down the investigation; using his former campaign chairman and convicted criminal Paul Manafort to find out information about Mueller’s investigation; and even appearing to offer Manafort a pardon if he helps him obstruct the Russia probe. These may be components of an obstruction of justice case, but they also provide strongly circumstantial data points as to how serious Trump himself views the allegations of collusion being levelled against him.

Lastly, federal prosecutors have told us Trump broke the law to influence the 2016 election by hiding evidence of his affairs. Trump clearly had no qualms about breaking the law to win an election.

In the face of what Mueller has revealed, there is little question where this is going. Mueller may still be only showing us part of his hand, but it’s a damn good hand. He has signalled to us he’s found collusion. He has shown us that the president is compromised. He has told us that he has gathered information important to his investigation about contacts with people in the Trump Organization, the campaign, the transition, and even the White House. That’s everyone Trump has been connected with since he started running. And given all the redacted information in his filings and all that he’s been told by cooperating witnesses, we can be confident that Mueller will show us even more.

Mueller is coming. And he is clearly coming for Trump. Not simply for obstructing justice but for conspiring with a hostile foreign power to win an election. This is a scandal unlike any America has ever seen.

Max Bergmann is a Senior Fellow and Director of the Moscow Project at the Center for American Progress. He served in the State Department from 2011-2017. Sam Berger is the Senior Advisor at the Center for American Progress. He served in the White House from 2010-2017.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-collusion?ref=scroll

1   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Dec 29, 3:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Okay, you don't like the source, they are left wing, even though they are only offering analysis okay whatever,

Nobody cares.
2   Evan F.   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 29, 3:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

BUT HER EMAILS
3   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Dec 29, 4:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Max Bergmann is a Senior Fellow and Director of the Moscow Project at the Center for American Progress. He served in the State Department from 2011-2017. Sam Berger is the Senior Advisor at the Center for American Progress. He served in the White House from 2010-2017.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-is-telling-us-hes-got-trump-on-collusion?ref=scroll


Wow, the Daily Beast and The Center for American Progress.... You don't get more Radical, Lefty, Liberal than those sources...

The TDS is completely off the charts here!!!
4   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 29, 4:45pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Okay, you don't like the source, they are left wing, even though they are only offering fabricated rage and bullshit okay whatever,

There, fixed it
5   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 29, 4:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

TRUMP BREATHES AIR! IMPEACH TRUMP!
6   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 29, 4:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Daily east as source lol

Bring it on!
7   RC2006   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 29, 5:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
TRUMP BREATHES AIR! IMPEACH TRUMP!


Hey don't say that it might panic some people into putting plastic bags over thier heads.
8   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2018 Dec 29, 5:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

These allegations all stem from a LEFT!-WING! interpretation of the sentencing memos! by insane Stalinists.

A neutral reading of the sentencing memos would reveal obviously that Mueller's case is a complete hoax and all the convictions are just patriotic AMERICA!ns being nice and not causing trouble for wrongheaded civil servants and putting up with their shenanigans.

Manaford is being so nice about in fact he is willing to go to jail for the rest of his life!
9   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 29, 5:44pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If he's going after Trump on collusion, how come he isn't going after Michelle Obama on protrusion?
10   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 29, 6:33pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I’ve never read such a clueless collection of desperate hyperbole!
None of that was informative or could possibly lead to either an impeachment or a conviction even if it were true.
You are awarded zero points, and may God have mercy on your soul!
11   marcus   ignore (7)   2018 Dec 29, 6:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Says another "all in for Trump" cuck.
12   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 29, 7:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RC2006 says
Ceffer says
TRUMP BREATHES AIR! IMPEACH TRUMP!


Hey don't say that it might panic some people into putting plastic bags over thier heads.

This would be a bad thing?
13   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 29, 7:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Okay, you don't like the source, they are left wing, even though they are only offering analysis okay whatever,

Nobody cares.


You apparently cared enough to press some button to make my post disappear. So yeah, you do seem to care.
14   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Dec 29, 8:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
the Trump campaign built its final message around the email release. That is collusion.


Lol this is the core of their collusion Hope's? Wow.

jazz_music says
In his plea deal, Cohen revealed that Trump had repeatedly lied to voters about the then-candidate’s financial ties to Russia.
jazz_music says
While Trump claimed during the campaign to have no business dealings with Russia, he was negotiating a wildly lucrative business deal


How does you fools read this and not see how your contradict yourselves? The second statement PROVES the first, idiots, it doesnt suggest Trump is lying. Just more Orange man bad logic self licking ice cream cone.
15   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Dec 29, 8:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@Quigley, So you are saying the first heresy
jazz_music says
Mueller has clearly identified collusion in the efforts of Trump aides and associates to contact WikiLeaks.

translates to ...
Quigley says
such a clueless collection of desperate hyperbole!

and it may be that the next statement subjects the speaker to crucifixion for the high state crime of apostasy
jazz_music says
Mueller said that Cohen provided his office with “useful information” on “Russia-related matters core to its investigation.” One of those central elements, according to the Justice Department: “any links and/or coordination” between the Kremlin and Trump campaign figures. Collusion

which as any sane faithful can see means exactly ...
Quigley says
None of that was informative or could possibly lead to either an impeachment or a conviction

Further offense was perpetrated with ...
jazz_music says
Mueller has found evidence that Trump was compromised by a hostile foreign power during the election. In his plea deal, Cohen revealed that Trump had repeatedly lied to voters about the then-candidate’s financial ties to Russia. While Trump claimed during the campaign to have no business dealings with Russia, he was negotiating a wildly lucrative business deal not simply with Russian businessmen, but also involving with the Kremlin itself. Trump’s team even reportedly tried to bribe Russian President Vladimir Putin by offering him a $50 million penthouse.

... which is more soberly interpreted as
Quigley says
You are awarded zero points

which is so much more important than ...
jazz_music says
Mueller is coming. And he is clearly coming for Trump. Not simply for obstructing justice but for conspiring with a hostile foreign power to win an election.

Quigley says
may God have mercy on your soul!

This astute observation is supremely meritorious when you consider that ...
jazz_music says
Trump has engaged in an increasingly brazen attempt to cover up his actions: installing a political crony to head the Department of Justice by potentially illegal means in an effort to shut down the investigation; using his former campaign chairman and convicted criminal Paul Manafort to find out information about Mueller’s investigation; and even appearing to offer Manafort a pardon if he helps him obstruct the Russia probe. These may be components of an obstruction of justice case, but they also provide strongly circumstantial data points as to how serious Trump himself views the allegations of collusion

In total, it is quintessential of Quigley to disingenuously express concern for another human being like that when they instead could have provided some service in adoration of corporate lords.

Quigley, from this we can conclude that your God is a piece of shit! The great and awesome news is that you can eat and fondle Him while touching yourself in His name!

This has been such a robust discussion.

Just awesome!
16   WineHorror1   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 29, 9:12pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        



I'm a little teacup and stupid as fuck...la la la la
17   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 29, 10:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's going to be so awesome when Trump gets re-elected. I can't wait to hear the lefty screeches.
18   komputodo   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 29, 10:10pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
MUELLER IS TELLING US HE’S GOT TRUMP ON COLLUSION

Great, now finally you and marcus can relax.
19   ThreeBays   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 30, 12:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
jazz_music says
the Trump campaign built its final message around the email release. That is collusion.


Lol this is the core of their collusion Hope's? Wow.

jazz_music says
In his plea deal, Cohen revealed that Trump had repeatedly lied to voters about the then-candidate’s financial ties to Russia.
jazz_music says
While Trump claimed during the campaign to have no business dealings with Russia, he was negotiating a wildly lucrative business deal


How does you fools read this and not see how your contradict yourselves? The second statement PROVES the first, idiots, it doesnt suggest Trump is lying. Just more Orange man bad logic self licking ice cream cone.


Sorry but you can't read. The two statements are in agreement with eachother,; Trump had lucrative deals going on with Russia, and lied by claiming he did not.
20   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Dec 30, 3:36am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ThreeBays says
Trump had lucrative deals going on with Russia


No he did not. He was "negotiating" lucrative deals. Nuance matters. Trump did not lie. The author and the deep state are both grasping at straws.

TDS!
21   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 30, 4:13am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
In total, it is quintessential of Quigley to disingenuously express concern for another human being like that when they instead could have provided some service in adoration of corporate lords.

Quigley, from this we can conclude that your God is a piece of shit! The great and awesome news is that you can eat and fondle Him while touching yourself in His name!

This has been such a robust discussion.


Sometimes a work of writing is just so riddled with errors and half truths cobbled together to make full lies that it’s not useful to critique it as something that could possibly be made better. Instead it deserves nothing more than the round file, and less attention than it has already been given. This is true for the useless article from the daily beast you posted here, in the mistaken assumption that it made some sort of material argument for Trump being imminently indicted on serious charges.

Instead, it was supposition based on assumption based on wild hope and desperate thinking. It was so incorrect, it wasn’t even wrong!

Other posters have taken apart sections of this fallacious work of fantasy, but I’d like to point out that neither Cohen’s plea or his testimony will be either admissible or relevant in any criminal proceedings against the President. He’s a piece of shit lawyer who got caught doing lots and lots of illegal shit, then offered a reduced sentence if he copped to a bullshit plea and said some shit about his client. He’s going to be disbarred anyway so what does he care for attorney client privilege or ethical behavior? In short, Trump’s only mistake was in hiring this piece of shit.

Flynn was railroaded, mostly with threats against his son, into signing whatever Mueller wanted. None of his information will do the anti-Trump case any good just like Manafort’s take down didn’t help Mueller at all.

What do they have left? Some payments to blackmailing whores? While it’s not illegal to pay a blackmailer, it is illegal to blackmail someone. Oddly, the press is treating the criminals here like saints. Even more oddly, idiots are soaking it up and reposting it like it means something! Just sad..

In conclusion, watch Old School. You need humor in your life and then you’d know that my last comment was a direct movie quote.
Philistine!
22   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 30, 7:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
If he's going after Trump on collusion, how come he isn't going after Michelle Obama on protrusion?


This encompasses the everlasting right wing complains about equality of persecution. He forgot "Hillary's emails"
23   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 30, 7:50am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Nobody cares.

A whole buncha people care. So what?


jazz_music says
collusion


jazz_music says
cover up


If that's the best you got, you got nothing indictable or questionably even criminal.
24   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 30, 7:52am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
BUT HER EMAILS

Her emails are criminal but pale in comparison to her documented uranium one dealings with the Kremlin.
26   Booger   ignore (2)   2018 Dec 30, 8:06am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just_dregalicious says
It's going to be so awesome when Trump gets re-elected. I can't wait to hear the lefty screeches.


27   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2018 Dec 30, 9:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says

Quigley, from this we can conclude that your God is a piece of shit! The great and awesome news is that you can eat and fondle Him while touching yourself in His name!

???
28   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 30, 9:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Right? Just disturbed!
29   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2018 Dec 30, 11:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
jazz_music says

Quigley, from this we can conclude that your God is a piece of shit! The great and awesome news is that you can eat and fondle Him while touching yourself in His name!


In my 20s I lived in a ground floor shit hole with one window which looked out into the dead end of an alley. Crazy homeless people used to live there but only one at a time. This is the kind of conversation I'd hear them having with imaginary people who weren't there.
31   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 1, 12:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Evan F. says
BUT HER EMAILS


I know, right?
32   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 3, 5:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just_dregalicious says
Onvacation says
jazz_music says

Quigley, from this we can conclude that your God is a piece of shit! The great and awesome news is that you can eat and fondle Him while touching yourself in His name!


In my 20s I lived in a ground floor shit hole with one window which looked out into the dead end of an alley. Crazy homeless people used to live there but only one at a time. This is the kind of conversation I'd hear them having with imaginary people who weren't there.


Someone named Quigley lived in the alley?
33   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 3, 9:31am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Collusion, collusion, it's a Libby delusion!
34   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 3, 6:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rocketmanjoe says
Someone named Quigley lived in the alley?


Your butt buddy Jazz.

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